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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:14 PM Jan 2019

Extreme Arctic outbreak possible next week as polar vortex targets northern U.S.

Source: Washington Post

Capital Weather Gang
Extreme Arctic outbreak possible next week as polar vortex targets northern U.S.

By Jason Samenow
January 24 at 11:51 AM

One of the most severe cold air outbreaks in years is possible from the Upper Midwest to the Northeast next week as the jet stream crashes south and a large lobe of the polar vortex plunges toward the Great Lakes.

Computer models forecast the brutal cold to crash into the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest starting Tuesday. The core of the frigid blast would grip the region from the Dakotas to the eastern Great Lakes on Wednesday and Thursday, sending cities such as Minneapolis, Des Moines, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit into a teeth-chattering freeze.

Confidence in a significant outbreak of Arctic air is high, but it’s too soon to project its exact strength and final legacy. Model predictions for the intensity of the cold snap range from historic and record-breaking to rather run-of-the-mill for midwinter.

The primary simulation from the American modeling system forecasts temperatures in the Midwest and Great Lakes next Wednesday to be 40 to 50 degrees colder than normal — which is a massive anomaly in the heart of winter when it is already very cold. Cold of this intensity would be extremely dangerous — producing widespread wind chills of minus-50 to minus-60 from Minneapolis to Chicago.
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Jason Samenow is The Washington Post’s weather editor and Capital Weather Gang's chief meteorologist. He earned a master's degree in atmospheric science and spent 10 years as a climate change science analyst for the U.S. government. He holds the Digital Seal of Approval from the National Weather Association. Follow https://twitter.com/capitalweather

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/01/24/extreme-arctic-outbreak-possible-next-week-polar-vortex-targets-northern-us/

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Extreme Arctic outbreak possible next week as polar vortex targets northern U.S. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 OP
Cue the climate denier morons requests for "some of that global warming"... Moostache Jan 2019 #1
Sounds like global cooling! IronLionZion Jan 2019 #2
Like in the movie "The Day after Tomorrow" ? nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #3
Al Roker Tells Polar Vortex Doubters To "Stuff It" NurseJackie Jan 2019 #9
Weather and climate aren't the same thing, meaning you can expect harsher winters in a warming world IronLionZion Jan 2019 #4
Me thinks you're preaching to the choir. groundloop Jan 2019 #5
Share the link with them IronLionZion Jan 2019 #6
Next week my ass. It's minus 21 F wind-chill in Minneapolis at noon today. (Actual temp: +3 deg progree Jan 2019 #7
Sioux Falls, SD... +1 degree; -22 windchill... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2019 #13
New Hampshire matt819 Jan 2019 #8
Here in St. Paul, MN, the day started out at 19 degrees F. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10
Heat wave, compared to Bismarck. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #14
That's tomorrow here. MineralMan Jan 2019 #15
To clarify, I don't live in Bismarck. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #24
Yes. I watch half an hour of CBS News in the morning, too. MineralMan Jan 2019 #25
I can make it through the first 18 minutes. Then the local (DC) station mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #26
Guess I should be cautious zipplewrath Jan 2019 #16
The climate wouldn't change if we would stop sending rockets into space. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #11
Little ice age on the way according to this professor at140 Jan 2019 #12
And she's still wrong zipplewrath Jan 2019 #17
I should have become a weather forecaster! at140 Jan 2019 #19
Works kinda like the stock market, me thinks. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #22
I get 99.7% zipplewrath Jan 2019 #23
I used to design woodworking projects for a couple of magazines. MineralMan Jan 2019 #27
we had a great winter so far in lower MI, I guess we are going to pay for it mastermind Jan 2019 #18
Pretty much the same pattern we experienced in Western New York... EarthFirst Jan 2019 #20
Here in Southern Kentucky Bayard Jan 2019 #21
we had that early in the week scarytomcat Jan 2019 #28

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Al Roker Tells Polar Vortex Doubters To "Stuff It"
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:59 PM
Jan 2019


Al Roker has this to say to all the haters out there: The polar vortex is real and anyone who doesn't believe that can "stuff it."

groundloop

(11,537 posts)
5. Me thinks you're preaching to the choir.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jan 2019

Of course we all need to enlighten our climate-change-denying neighbors and relatives.

progree

(10,953 posts)
7. Next week my ass. It's minus 21 F wind-chill in Minneapolis at noon today. (Actual temp: +3 deg
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jan 2019

and 23 mph wind).

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,078 posts)
13. Sioux Falls, SD... +1 degree; -22 windchill...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jan 2019

... NW wind 21 mph.

And the forecast calls for temps to go to below zero this afternoon.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
8. New Hampshire
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jan 2019

It was 10 below a couple of days ago. Wind chill much lower. Extremely unpleasant.

Today? 50 degrees and rain. Unpleasant, but for different reasons, not the least of which is road conditions.

This is not normal. And these fucking climate change deniers laughing it off is offensive.

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
10. Here in St. Paul, MN, the day started out at 19 degrees F.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jan 2019

By 5 PM, it will be -4 degrees. We have a week of this, at least, coming up. The wind is blowing hard, and when I went to the supermarket to stock up for a four-day deep freeze, the car thermometer said +3 degrees. Wind chill is around -15 already.

But, this is Minnesota, so the inch of snow that fell yesterday has already been cleared from the arterial streets and everyone's out and carrying on as usual. It's way worse further north in our state, but those folks are used to it, too.

In fact, this has been a very warm January so far, so it's about time for a frozen few days.

In other parts of the country, though, this sort of cold is less common. A lot of people are going to have a hard time coping.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
14. Heat wave, compared to Bismarck.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jan 2019

Per the TV this morning, high of -1 and low of -7, unless -7 was the "felt like" high temp.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
24. To clarify, I don't live in Bismarck.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jan 2019

That was the network TV, the CBS Morning News. Eighteen minutes in, they give the temps all over the US of A.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
26. I can make it through the first 18 minutes. Then the local (DC) station
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jan 2019

gives the weather. After that, it's solid commercials until about 8:30. I hit the remote and bailed this a.m. when I had had enough of the commercials.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Guess I should be cautious
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:25 PM
Jan 2019

Guess I'd better stop calling what's coming our way as a "cold front". It's supposed to "plunge" into the upper 40's and lower 50's here in central Florida. We may have to resort to wearing sweaters.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
11. The climate wouldn't change if we would stop sending rockets into space.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jan 2019

At least that's what my aunts believed.

at140

(6,110 posts)
19. I should have become a weather forecaster!
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jan 2019

They never get fired for making wrong forecast! Is is usually % chance of whatever.
So if 60% chance of rain is the forecast and it does not rain, they are covered by the 40%.
In my work, if I made a mistake in calculating stresses in a component, and it failed, 100%
blame was aimed at me.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
23. I get 99.7%
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jan 2019

We work to 99.7% (basically 3 sigma). Of course I'm required to maintain a factor of safety of 1.5 as well, so it not only can't break, but it can't break when they overload it by 50%. (But it can BEND!)

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
27. I used to design woodworking projects for a couple of magazines.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jan 2019

One of them asked me for a tall oak bookcase design with glass doors framed in oak. My process was to just build the thing, and then do the needed working drawings afterwards for the project. I worked from a mental design. That let me work quickly. So, I created a 6' x 4' x 14" oak frame and oak plywood panel bookcase design, with nice adjustable oak shelves and an attractive arts and crafts style design. After assembling it, staining and finishing it, all with the project lying on its back, I set it up to take photos of it for the magazine's cover. There was a catch, though, I discovered. With all of the shelves out of the book case, if you opened both doors, it tipped forward. I caught it in time to prevent damage. I had not calculated the weight of the doors, nor the center of gravity with the doors open. Glass is heavier than you'd think and the bookcase was not heavy enough without the shelves in it, so its center of gravity fell in front of the case when both doors were open.

Too late. So, I set the thing up, put the shelves in and added contents for the photos, but still had a dilemma. What to do? That's why I didn't do drawings until a project was finished. Once the shelves were in the bookcase, the doors' weight didn't move the center of gravity outside of the case. After some experimentation, I found that two shelves installed in the lower quarter of the case were enough to overcome the doors' weight and keep the CG within the boundaries of the case. As a safety factor, I also drew the cabinet 1" deeper than the original build and altered all dimensions to suit, which moved the CG back another inch with both doors open and the case empty. When i did the drawings, I showed the two lowest shelves installed as fixed shelves, making the other four adjustable, as all of them were in the original build. I also included instructions for attaching the entire bookcase to the wall for safety's sake. Problem solved.

I kept the bookcase for my own use, and always kept a couple of extra shelves stacked in the bottom of the case, to avoid ever having the thing tip over on me. I never made a similar mistake again, though. A lot of the magazine's subscriber's built the project and wrote that they loved how it turned out. It was a big hit. It's in one corner of my living room now, almost 30 years later.

 

mastermind

(229 posts)
18. we had a great winter so far in lower MI, I guess we are going to pay for it
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jan 2019

like last spring/summer was perfection up until the last week of August, constant storms produced a summer's worth of rain in just a few days than it was cooler than normal.

EarthFirst

(2,906 posts)
20. Pretty much the same pattern we experienced in Western New York...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

Not nearly cold enough during the winter to kill off nuisance bugs; stink bugs, box elders, etc.

Late summer/early autumn was a deluge of near constant rain.

Bayard

(22,247 posts)
21. Here in Southern Kentucky
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jan 2019

We are supposed to see some days next week with a high of 20, and 0 at night. Looks like I'll be carrying a lot of warm water to critters.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
28. we had that early in the week
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jan 2019

today it started out 60 degrees and went down
more to come I guess
the jet steam is collapsing and the cold is coming down
last year this happened in Europe and Russia now it is our turn

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