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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:17 AM Jan 2019

CBO: Shutdown cost economy $3 billion

Source: The Hill


BY NIV ELIS - 01/28/19 10:00 AM EST

The five-week partial shutdown that ended Friday cost the U.S. economy $3 billion, according to a new report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

The economy lost $11 billion during the course of the shutdown, which began Dec. 22, but some $8 billion of that will be recovered as the government reopens and workers receive back pay.

“Although most of the real GDP lost during the fourth quarter of 2018 and the first quarter of 2019 will eventually be recovered, CBO estimates that about $3 billion will not be,” CBO director Keith Hall said Monday in a prepared statement.

All in all, that amounts to a 0.2 percentage point drop in economic growth in the fourth quarter of 2018, followed by a 0.4 percentage point decline in growth during the first quarter of 2019.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/427230-cbo-shutdown-will-cost-economy-3-billion



CBO primarily looked at the economic cost of leaving 800,000 federal workers unpaid, reduced government spending on goods and services and lower demand resulting from the shutdown. The report did not take incorporate possible effects on the business sector from the inability to access certain loans, permits and certifications during the downturn.
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CBO: Shutdown cost economy $3 billion (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
I say that it's way too early to give a final figure ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #1
It looks like they are only estimating the costs directly associated with missing government funds Major Nikon Jan 2019 #5
That's Trumponomics for ya. C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #2
Nope. The Cruz shutdown, much shorter, cost $25B - $32Billion. So this one will be double that... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #3
Much more . . . Iliyah Jan 2019 #4
Double that number CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #6
And the master negotiator got nothing for his wall IronLionZion Jan 2019 #7
there you go, orange asshole, there's your fucking "down payment". nt Javaman Jan 2019 #8
And it goes Beyond Economics Im peachy keen Jan 2019 #9
and STILL costing! elleng Jan 2019 #10
It's at least triple that, but we'll never know the true cost jmowreader Jan 2019 #11
Sounds like a lowball figure sandensea Jan 2019 #12
Absolute hogwash... Kensan Jan 2019 #13
I agree. EarthFirst Jan 2019 #15
And taxpayers are now shelling out $8 billion in backpay meadowlander Jan 2019 #14
"...failure to report a change in your financial situation is grounds for denial..." kiri Jan 2019 #16
Bull matt819 Jan 2019 #17
That's more BS! duforsure Jan 2019 #18

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. I say that it's way too early to give a final figure
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

Wait until the middle of April at least. Then we will know more about what happened this quarter.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. It looks like they are only estimating the costs directly associated with missing government funds
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jan 2019

As in government projects that were suspended during the shutdown resulting in lost profits and wages.

The actual costs associated with all the indirect effects are going to be far higher.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. Nope. The Cruz shutdown, much shorter, cost $25B - $32Billion. So this one will be double that...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:43 AM
Jan 2019

at least.

 

Im peachy keen

(15 posts)
9. And it goes Beyond Economics
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019
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elleng

(131,410 posts)
10. and STILL costing!
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jan 2019

As replacement $$$ won't be provided to federal employees until Friday, some of us are still contributing today.

jmowreader

(50,601 posts)
11. It's at least triple that, but we'll never know the true cost
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

One I heard: craft brewers lost a lot on this shutdown because they couldn’t get new beers approved through BATF.

Also consider the plight of the air traveler, which many of us relish because screw the rich, right?

Trump totally screwed the pooch on this one.

“Hey Rocky, watch me pull a government shutdown out of my hat!”
“Again? That trick never works!”

sandensea

(21,720 posts)
12. Sounds like a lowball figure
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

That would be just 0.015% of U.S. GDP - the equivalent of 1.3 hours' worth.

The $6 billion figure is much more credible - but then, coming from Cheeto's CBO, what wouldn't be.

Kensan

(180 posts)
13. Absolute hogwash...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jan 2019

I know it’s too much to hope this gets some pushback before repetition causes this to be accepted. The lost income from just government sources is just a grain of sand on a huge beach. What about business failures, financing costs (both in additional interest on new debt or on defaults/foreclosures), infrastructure damage caused by delayed repairs, etc? Hell, what about the irreversible damage to some of our national parks and public lands?

This is a blatant attempt to whitewash the true cost of the longest shutdown in our history. The true cost is likely closer to $50B than it is to a mere $3B.

EarthFirst

(2,906 posts)
15. I agree.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:40 PM
Jan 2019

The true cost and impact will still be coming in for weeks, months and in some cases; years.

meadowlander

(4,413 posts)
14. And taxpayers are now shelling out $8 billion in backpay
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:39 PM
Jan 2019

for non-essential federal employees on furlough who were ordered to sit around doing nothing for a month. I would still count that in the loss column.

Pointless frickin' waste...

kiri

(802 posts)
16. "...failure to report a change in your financial situation is grounds for denial..."
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jan 2019

I read on a real estate newsletter that more than 2000 federal employees suddenly unable to meet income requirements on their new home purchases and/or who failed to make their existing mortgage payment LOST their new homes.

Families planning to buy became unable to complete the closing.

"...failure to report a change in your financial situation is grounds for denial..."

matt819

(10,749 posts)
17. Bull
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

Quadruple it and then add in the effects on the economy.

We are at the zero level in faith that any numbers coming from this regime are anywhere close to accurate. When Paul Krugman or other world-class level economists come up with a number, I'll believe that one. And if it's $3 billion, fine. But I would put money on the likelihood that it's closer to $12 billion. In a post a few weeks ago I threw out $75 billion, mainly for shits and grins. The point, overall, is that there are real financial costs, to say nothing of the social and emotional costs.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. That's more BS!
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 07:24 AM
Jan 2019

The over all damage to it will be closer to 8-10 billion when everything is considered who it hurt. The threat of another one is also hurting the economy from people being scared to spend from not knowing what he'll do next to us.

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