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Eugene

(61,974 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:53 PM Jan 2019

Judge delays Paul Manafort's Virginia sentencing for tax and bank fraud

Source: Washington Post

By Rachel Weiner January 28 at 5:40 PM

A federal judge in Virginia has delayed Paul Manafort’s sentencing on tax- and bank-fraud convictions until a dispute over his cooperation with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s office is resolved.

Manafort’s sentencing hearing in federal court in Alexandria had been set for Feb. 8. A new date has not been scheduled.

The postponement was sparked by allegations made by prosecutors in Manafort’s related case in D.C. federal court, where the former Trump campaign chairman pleaded guilty to crimes related to his undisclosed lobbying work. The special counsel said Manafort lied repeatedly to the FBI and a grand jury after committing to offer truthful information. Manafort, 69, has maintained that he made honest mistakes and did his best to correct them.

“It appears that resolution of the current dispute in defendant’s prosecution in the District of Columbia may have some effect on the sentencing decision in this case, it is prudent and appropriate to delay sentencing in this case until the dispute in the D.C. case is resolved,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in Alexandria said in an order Monday.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/judge-delays-virginia-sentencing-for-paul-manafort-tax-and-bank-fraud-case/2019/01/28/44b86c2c-2348-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html

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shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. Why do I get the feeling that Flynn, Manafort and Cohen will not see the inside of the
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jan 2019

prisons until trump is out of office.

I smell rotten eggs.

bluestarone

(17,122 posts)
2. You might be right BUT
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:04 PM
Jan 2019

I look at it like Rump can't pardon until charges are complete? I might be wrong but i'm thinking RUMP will be pissed.

cstanleytech

(26,357 posts)
3. I do not believe there are any limits to when he can pardon however if the pardon is to
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jan 2019

protect himself from criminal acts the pardon would hopefully be tossed out by SCOTUS as it would go entirely against the rule of law to let someone pardon others to use in order to escape from having to face justice themselves.

bluestarone

(17,122 posts)
4. I'm sure your right.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jan 2019

My thinking is Rump wants to know the whole story before he pardons and Mueller wants it kept under wrap. Mueller is smart in his own way!

paleotn

(18,014 posts)
8. It would also be publicly self incriminating...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jan 2019

Shitler isn't pardoning anyone but his own flesh and blood and perhaps himself if it comes to that. And even his kids may get screwed if they try to turn states evidence on daddy. That's the thing about nearly everyone who's been indicted so far. They've tried to cut deals and have said mean things about him. In Trump's little mind, that's unforgivable. Thus, no pardons.

at140

(6,110 posts)
9. Logically that makes sense
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:18 PM
Jan 2019

However in reality it is still unresolved issue.
The constitution simply says the president has the power to pardon anyone.
Common sense says he can't pardon someone who has evidence of president's crimes.
This is all very murky at best. Hold on to your seats...
there is gonna be lots of breaking news coming.

cstanleytech

(26,357 posts)
10. I suspect that is why Scooter did not get a pardon as if he had then it could
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:21 PM
Jan 2019

have potentially started an investigation which could have opened up a huge can of worms.

at140

(6,110 posts)
12. We are living in the most interesting times OR WHAT?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jan 2019

Your angle on Scooter Libby makes eminent sense.

Kablooie

(18,647 posts)
11. Trump would only pardon someone if he personally benefits from it.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jan 2019

If it would prevent someone from testifying against him he might do it but I'm sure Mueller isn't depending on Manafort's testimony.
I don't see how it would benefit Trump to pardon these guys.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. You do know that Manafort is already IN prison, yes?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

I’m not sure I understand you. Manafort is in prison and has been there a while now.

at140

(6,110 posts)
13. Manafort is being held in prison because the judge
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jan 2019

agreed he is a flight risk during trial.
As far as I know, the judge has not actually ruled on length of his prison sentence.

at140

(6,110 posts)
18. Trial is not over until sentencing is ordered
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

We do not yet know how much prison time Manafort will be serving.

paleotn

(18,014 posts)
6. Manafort is already in prison.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:17 PM
Jan 2019

And fucked himself even more in hopes of a pardon that will never come. Cohen is headed that way for a significant amount time as part of his plea deal. Flynn cut a deal and is spilling his guts in order to reduce his own sentence and keep his son out of jail. Make no mistake. Justice will be served....cold. It just takes more time than we law abiding citizens are use to. It's really no different time wise than the prosecutions of the Watergate criminals.

iluvtennis

(19,908 posts)
7. Aww too bad. Hope the delay is not too long. Want Manafort
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:18 PM
Jan 2019

sentenced for Virginia and then sent to trial in DC given he violated his agreement with Manafort

Princess Turandot

(4,790 posts)
14. Manafort has already pled guilty in DC...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:04 AM
Jan 2019

What's at issue now is his sentence, since the SC's sentencing recommendation to the judge was predicated upon Manafort's cooperation with them.

iluvtennis

(19,908 posts)
15. Thanks for clarifying...didn't realize the deal with MUeller included a guilty plea. Do you
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:08 AM
Jan 2019

know what the sentencing range is for the guilty plea? Thanks in advance.

iluvtennis

(19,908 posts)
16. Manafort max sentence for Virginia could be decades...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:24 AM
Jan 2019
Virginia sentencing -Max is Decades; legal experts says likely 10 years

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/21/paul-manafort-convicted-of-tax-in-virginia-federal-court
Manafort, 69, was convicted on Tuesday of five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud and one count of failure to report a foreign bank account. The charges carry a maximum sentence of decades in prison. He avoided conviction on some charges however, with the jury saying it could not reach a consensus on 10 out of 18 total counts.


DC sentencing



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/us/politics/mueller-paul-manafort-cooperation.html
As it is, the plea agreement specifies that if prosecutors decide that Mr. Manafort has failed to cooperate fully or “given false, misleading or incomplete information or testimony,” they can prosecute him for crimes to which he did not plead guilty in the District of Columbia. They could also conceivably pursue the 10 charges on which the Virginia jury failed to reach a consensus.


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Lock. Him. Up. Soon. Please. So tired of these trump cretins not getting their just desserts
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