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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:23 AM Jan 2019

Trump blasts intel chiefs as 'passive and naive'

Source: The Hill



BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 01/30/19 09:03 AM EST

President Trump on Wednesday blasted top intelligence leaders for being "wrong" about their new assessment on Iran's nuclear developments.




The president, who claimed Iran has recently tested rockets, also mocked the intelligence leaders in his administration, suggesting they "should go back to school."

The two tweets came a day after Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA Director Gina Haspel offered testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee that seemed to contradict things the president has said.

Coats testified that the intelligence community found that Iran is not currently seeking to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities, basing his remarks on an intelligence assessment.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/427608-trump-blasts-intel-chiefs-for-wrong-iran-assessment
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Trump blasts intel chiefs as 'passive and naive' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
What did Putin suggest? safeinOhio Jan 2019 #1
Whatever Trump says is surely an exact quote of whatever Putin told him to say as a Russian agent RKP5637 Jan 2019 #4
We are overdue in not asking some fundamental questions about Trump's policies olegramps Jan 2019 #11
Good question ck4829 Feb 2019 #21
They should resign matt819 Jan 2019 #2
Do you mean nwduke Jan 2019 #15
Intel heads matt819 Jan 2019 #17
They should... for a great number of reasons. ck4829 Feb 2019 #22
Day after day after day n/t hibbing Jan 2019 #3
And the GOP in congress just sits on their asses just nodding OK. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2019 #5
Fuck you Drumpf, you Nazi. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #6
ARTICLE 25!!! NOW!!! PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #7
..."after all, I get my national security briefings from... nwduke Jan 2019 #8
All Trump has accomplished witrh Iran vlyons Jan 2019 #9
Yep ck4829 Feb 2019 #23
" ... the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal*" Botany Jan 2019 #10
Well he's not Donald Trump, nobody is as smart as him. Remember? /sarcasm ck4829 Feb 2019 #24
Did he ever manage a Trump hotel LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #26
I remember when Iran wanted to be like us... PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #12
"Passive and naive"...I'm betting he was reacting to Raven Jan 2019 #13
True ck4829 Feb 2019 #25
He's projecting again. n/t nclib Jan 2019 #14
You picked them, you republican schmuck Achilleaze Jan 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2019 #18
President Iran??? I thought he was President Russia. Marie Marie Jan 2019 #19
Kick ck4829 Feb 2019 #20
It seems ALL Trump's nominees are substandard jmowreader Feb 2019 #27

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. Whatever Trump says is surely an exact quote of whatever Putin told him to say as a Russian agent
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:30 AM
Jan 2019

in the US.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
11. We are overdue in not asking some fundamental questions about Trump's policies
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jan 2019

It must be determined if Trump's policies are based on total ignorance of the situation or are they designed to destroy our constitutional government.

There are two fundamental policies that Trump is pursuing that must be challenged. The first is the alienation of our allies with virtually every functional democracy both in Europe, the Americas including Canada, Japan, Australia and the South East Asia. Especially disconcerting is Trump's undermining of NATO which has stood as a bulwark against Russia's determination to dominate Europe since WWII. It is especially important in the necessity of strengthening the new member nations that joined the allegiance following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Trump rather than working to increase our commitment has taken the adverse position that can only serve to please both China and Russia. He has chosen to not only totally ignore the finding of everyone of our intelligence agencies, but to openly question their findings. This is not a new development but one that he has demonstrated for the moment he took office. The second is he actually working complete cognizant and actively pursuing policies that are placing our nation in jeopardy of domination by our most dreaded enemies, Russia and China. It is evident that their has been a strengthening of their partnership that has been buoyed by Trump's policies both in Europe and in South East Asia.

The question that must be asked is Trump's actions being undertaken to intentionally weaken and eventually destroy our nation and its allies or is it the actions of totally incompetent moron. If the affirmative of either option is determined he must be removed from office before he brings catastrophic damage to the entirety of the free world. The entire world is undergoing a dramatic change as the Industrial Revolution which provided massive employment for minimally educated is being supplanted by the rapid automation that is affecting every aspect of industry. It a such a massive change that the choices that are made now will affect every individual. Will they be made to enhance and protect individual liberty or will the be exploited to justify virtual enslavement?

It is imperative that we ask is he and his cadre of oligarchs conspiring to use this as the modus operandi for their long sought authoritarian government? Does this explain what appears to be irrational decisions that this is administration actively pursuing? Among numerous issues is the massive unjustified tax cut that will eventually bankrupt the government opening the way to suspension of liberties and oligarchical control? We must also ask does this explain the transformation that the Republican Party has undergone since the Reagan administration which open up the broadcast airwaves to domination by propagandist spreading outright misinformation, the destruction of union and the embrace of radical extreme religious zealots? Is it too late?



matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. They should resign
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jan 2019

All three should resign. Today. Together.

This is far more than a slap in the face. This is a kick in the groin. And it’s not as if these three are liberal simps. They are RW warriors. And they’ve been seriously dissed.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
17. Intel heads
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

Even the one who wants to speed up the rapture. They’ve all been humiliated by a man whose ass they have generously licked.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
7. ARTICLE 25!!! NOW!!!
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jan 2019

When a pResident is so delusional that he believes his gut over his own national security advisors and has access to the nuclear launch codes then it is time to remove him from office immediately. There is no other solution. Our country is in extreme danger.

nwduke

(352 posts)
8. ..."after all, I get my national security briefings from...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

FOX and friends” what do these professionals know?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. All Trump has accomplished witrh Iran
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jan 2019

is to convince the Iranian hardliners that the US is fickle and can't be trusted. To advocate that the US is their enemy.

Botany

(70,657 posts)
10. " ... the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal*"
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

* The multi nation Iran deal was written by Ernie Moniz

B.S. Physics Boston University
PhD Theoretical Physics (explaining the universe w/math) Stanford
Professor Physics M.I.T.
Chair Physics Dept. M.I.T.
Teaching classes in nuclear physics M.I.T.
Expert in Energy production
30 + years in nuclear non proliferation work
Assistant Sec. Dept. of Energy
Sec. Dept. of Energy
Numerous honors, awards, and patents

If Mr. Moniz isn’t the very best in the world at understanding “nuclear deals” the # of people who are as good or better is a very short list.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
12. I remember when Iran wanted to be like us...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jan 2019

They couldn't get enough of our blue jeans and rock and roll... The kids loved everything American. I forget. What turned them against us again?

Raven

(13,909 posts)
13. "Passive and naive"...I'm betting he was reacting to
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jan 2019

Gina Haspel. He can't help himself where a woman is involved.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

jmowreader

(50,601 posts)
27. It seems ALL Trump's nominees are substandard
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:05 PM
Feb 2019

What could really be entertaining is for the Senate Intelligence Committee to start calling desk analysts to testify. If Haspel’s opinion is no good, how about someone working NSA’s Middle East/North Africa economic and political operation?

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