Trump's tax returns: Leaked strategy reveals GOP plotting all-out battle to keep them secret
Source: raw story
05 Feb 2019 at 06:41 ET
Treasury Department officials are planning ways to keep President Donald Trumps personal tax returns away from Democratic lawmakers.
A handful of top political appointees and lawyers are developing a strategy to counter Democratic subpoenas and prevent the IRS from turning over those documents, four sources told Politico.
Officials will accuse Democrats of seeking the documents to then leak to the public, which would be a felony, and then argue that Trumps opponents cannot be trusted enough to see the documents in the first place.
We are worried about leaks, one source told the website. Once we share it with any member of Congress, we assume it becomes a public document.
Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin will review any request for the returns, which administration officials have been expecting since Democrats took over the House last month, and could potentially reject them and plunge the executive and legislative branches into an extended and unprecedented legal fight.
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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/trumps-tax-returns-leaked-strategy-reveals-gop-plotting-battle-keep-secret/
oh my---Recall all the times that the Republicans leaked Intel and communications from Comey the minute they got them!!!
Repugs will charge the Dems with a felony if leaked!!!!!!! Idiots.
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Cool Blue Persuasion 
? @SonOfAlgos
2h2 hours ago
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Now why in the world would Republicans want to keep Trump's tax returns secret.
What are they so afraid of.. 😎
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Claire
? @jazzforia
1h1 hour ago
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Why? Only one reason. There's something to hide. Release his tax returns! Let the truth be told. See which team Trump is really playing on.
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Turbineguy
(37,415 posts)See where that gets you.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)To accompany their Wars on Decency and Honor.
tanyev
(42,676 posts)Didn't all the other GOP candidates in 2016 release their returns?
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)pubican traitors all. They're so obviously guilty they shouldn't even be given the courtesy of a trial.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)to Congress?
I can't imagine it would hold up even in a Republican SCOTUS
DBoon
(22,427 posts)volstork
(5,403 posts)Mueller undoubtedly has them.
Gothmog
(145,908 posts)avebury
(10,953 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Ok for thee . . .
These people must go!
RAB910
(3,542 posts)world wide wally
(21,760 posts)Gothmog
(145,908 posts)Fuzzpope
(602 posts)A family resemblance?
procon
(15,805 posts)Treasury Department officials, like every other gov't worker, is paid by taxpayer money which means they work for the whole country as public servants, not Trump's personal lackeys.
These Treasury Department officials shouldn't be doing special favors for Trump in direct opposition to what our political representatives want as a matter of oversight. Trump has his own lawyers and if he objects to Dems oversight investigations then he should pay them to go to the courts and try to counter the committee actions, not put the squeeze on civil service employees.
The taxpayers should not be paying Trump's personal expenses. Redact the Taxpayer ID and release the returns.
CTAtheist
(88 posts)While tax returns are PRIVATE, they are not CLASSIFIED. Once they are subpoena'd, I believe they can be released to the public as congress sees fit. Someone who is a lawyer can correct me if I'm wrong.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)It shall be unlawful for any officer or employee of the United States or any person described in section 6103(n) (or an officer or employee of any such person), or any former officer or employee, willfully to disclose to any person, except as authorized in this title, any return or return information (as defined in section 6103(b)). Any violation of this paragraph shall be a felony punishable upon conviction by a fine in any amount not exceeding $5,000, or imprisonment of not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution, and if such offense is committed by any officer or employee of the United States, he shall, in addition to any other punishment, be dismissed from office or discharged from employment upon conviction for such offense.
CTAtheist
(88 posts)If you take that law literally, then the DoJ cannot subpoena someone's returns and then file them in court as evidence, for as soon as they are given to a court clerk, the judge, or anyone else, the "willfully to disclose to any person" would kick in. I think there has to be some exception for subpoena'd tax returns, perhaps in another paragraph or statute?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Should be front and center for any ad, debate answer, etc in 2020.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)WHY are they "aiding and abetting" for the _______________ (fill in the word(s) of your own choice) thief?
Harker
(14,113 posts)Those pesky Democrats... always trying to get to the facts of the matter.
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)So what is the big deal about making Trump's tax returns part of the public record. What are Republicans trying to hide? The Republican position is untenable. It is a key part of transparency.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)what are they hiding is the question! Bring on the truth!
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)And the other thing he mentioned.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)If I were a member of the House and had access to them that is something I'd seriously consider. Especially if there are part that prove he's lying about Russian deals and connections.
Doing that, on the floor, while in session grants the member of congress immunity. No federal charges could be brought. Doesn't mean they couldn't be censured, removed, etc. But that might just be worth it.
Grins
(7,263 posts)Like the Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, McCain, Romney, Obama tax returns....? All of whom released their tax returns, some going back as far as - 40-years!
Not one of them hesitated (well, Romney did, but eventually he released them and never bitched about it) in making their returns public. They did so willingly. Because they wanted the trust of the public.
So what is he trying to hide here...?
George II
(67,782 posts)...rule that Nixon's tax returns should be released to Congress?
Edit: I was wrong!
dem4decades
(11,321 posts)Firestorm49
(4,041 posts)I am aghast.
Hes a frickin stinking crook and is getting the full monte privileged white boy protection from his complicit gutless crony party. Fuck them all.
No guts, no glory!!
Funtatlaguy
(10,895 posts)machoneman
(4,016 posts)It's to protect the investigation and they got same long ago. How do we think Mueller gets his leads in where and which way to go in his financial investigations? Bank records from the banker's side, records from other lenders, etc. He may have even gotten the IRS to send him the returns w/o Mnuchin, that idiot, or Trump's lawyers from knowing under a grand jury threat. A Federal subpoena from a grand jury is a very powerful thing.
Deutsche Bank was subpoenaed long ago as was the longtime head of Trump's land organization as were countless other muckety-mucks that worked for him and still do. They all were legally threatened into submitting all kinds of docs long ago....which Mueller's team reviewed and pursued other avenues of illegal ventures that motley crew go into.
Heck, even just today a subpoena for the inauguration committees countless law violations (access, sanctions relief, contributions, etc.) was issued although IMO that would ensnare a lot of RNC and Trump Org. types more so than Trump himself. That is, all but Ivanka who was touted as the main organizer for those where paying attention.
I'm not worried at all although it would be nice for us Dems to get the details and leak them to the Post and NY Times!
Gothmog
(145,908 posts)dhill926
(16,388 posts)we're talking about it. Keep it in the news with relentless pressure...
TeamPooka
(24,296 posts)Texin
(2,600 posts)The Trump family bag man has been cooperating with the Mueller team for months now and he's the one who has been the font of information and records for the family and for the corporation for decades. Hell, copies of those are no doubt in files in tRump's office there. (I've never known an exec that didn't keep copies of his/her personal tax records in a file in his/her office). Those returns can be, and no doubt have been, gathered by subpoena and have been pored over by investigators. The information in those returns, some of them at least, are probably in the files of Deutsche Bank, which had received its own subpoenas in this investigation. Banks always require copies of relevant tax returns in order to securitize loans. Granted, most of this MAGAt's money has come from Russia lately, but nobody can credibly tell me that they've not by now been scrutinized by the Mueller investigation. Damnit! It's what the FBI and Justice Department do routinely in RICO and other cases of this nature.
Gothmog
(145,908 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)look at Mnuchin's face, doesn't it just want to make you bust his glasses right on the bridge of his nose?
Just kidding of course.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,201 posts)ms liberty
(8,627 posts)Backpfeifengesicht, which I've seen defined as "a face in need of a fist" or " a punchable face." I love that word. It gets brought up here pretty regularly now, because this administration has so many examples!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)mikeysnot
(4,758 posts)a lawyer at Rose Law firm... during the Clinton starr inquisition
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)because, well, you know, they're Republicans!
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)By law, taxpayer information is supposed to remain confidential. But as University of Virginia law professor George Yin, author of a 2017 article on the law, told NPR, Congress didn't like being dependent on the executive branch to provide tax records.
When the "committee access" provision, as it's known, became law in 1924, Congress had been dealing with taxpayers' information in the Teapot Dome scandal afflicting the Harding administration and in a controversy involving former Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Like Trump, he had served in government while refusing to avoid conflicts of interest by letting go of his holdings.
The committee access provision has rarely been invoked, but here's how it would work:
1.For the party in control of the House or Senate, making the request is easy. It would come from the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee (the House panel that writes tax law), Senate Finance Committee or Joint Committee on Taxation. Democrats have been badgering the Republican chairs of those panels to act since February 2017 without success.
2.Once a request is made, no floor action is necessary. The request would go to Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who oversees the IRS not to the taxpayer in the Oval Office, who would officially be out of the loop. Yin said the 1924 law "gave the tax committees the unqualified right to request the tax returns of any taxpayer."
3.What would happen next is uncharted territory. Based on recent events, Trump might deploy Justice Department lawyers, and perhaps private lawyers, to fight the request in court. The process might resemble the not-infrequent legal battles over congressional subpoenas for executive branch documents. But the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge.
4.Were Congress to get access to Trump's returns, it would be easy for lawmakers to disclose the information, despite various privacy protections that exist for taxpayers. The chair or committee with Trump's tax returns could submit them to the full House or Senate if there's a legitimate legislative purpose. At that point, the returns would very likely quickly become available for the public to see on the Internet.
MichMan
(12,002 posts). currently in the House & Senate also. Love to see all of them squirm while they are made public
Lithos
(26,404 posts)Obstruction of Justice and Contempt of Congress...
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)ABove and beyond my distrust for all that is conservative in this country...
The most obvious and probably accurate assumption is that all the
rightwing handjobs are dirty...
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)itcfish
(1,828 posts)his tax returns will show? You would think they would want this out in the open if there was nothing to hide.
Gothmog
(145,908 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,040 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)what are you hiding
could it be you are not a billionaire
that you owe hundreds of millions of dollars to foreign countries
that you owe more on properties than they are worth
that you have limited income
that you have gotten millions from deals that never happened
that your golf courses are losing big money
that you are being dropped from management contracts because you have mismanaged properties