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Judi Lynn

(160,682 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:28 PM Feb 2019

Fordham confirms Cohen testimony: Trump campaign threatened legal action if school released his reco

Source: Raw Story

Fordham confirms Cohen testimony: Trump campaign threatened legal action if school released his records
TRAVIS GETTYS
27 FEB 2019 AT 11:13 ET

Fordham University confirms Michael Cohen’s testimony that he threatened legal action if President Donald Trump’s academic records were released.

The former Trump Organization lawyer told congressional investigators that Trump directed him to threaten his high school, colleges and the College Board not to release his grades or SAT scores.

A spokesperson for Fordham, which Trump attended for two years, confirmed to NPR that a representative from the Trump campaign contacted the school toward the beginning of the race asking about the release of school records.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/fordham-confirms-cohen-testimony-trump-campaign-threatened-legal-action-school-released-records/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Fordham confirms Cohen testimony: Trump campaign threatened legal action if school released his reco (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2019 OP
Letter here via twitter CountAllVotes Feb 2019 #1
Thank you, CountAllVotes. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2019 #6
I love the PS! honest.abe Feb 2019 #12
Hiding proof positive from decades back that's he's always been a lazy entitled ignoramus. lark Feb 2019 #2
Not to mention... SergeStorms Feb 2019 #24
I'M SURE HIS GRADES WERE *FINE* THEN! forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #30
YEAH BABY!!!!! Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #3
please release them now. mopinko Feb 2019 #4
Not to split hairs, but university officials know that student spooky3 Feb 2019 #5
that's correct, but the big deal is that the orange asshole directed cohen to threaten them. Javaman Feb 2019 #9
It goes to the character and truthfulness of Fat Donnie. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #11
I'm not a lawyer, but I do not believe the Congress can require a university to break the law, spooky3 Feb 2019 #18
Lawyers threaten people not to do illegal things every day jberryhill Feb 2019 #28
You're right. But now I'm curious. I would... Whiskeytide Feb 2019 #35
IMHO it is primarily due to a piece of rightwing folklore jberryhill Feb 2019 #36
Documents proving Trump is an idiot. sarcasmo Feb 2019 #7
The rich don't really mind seeing an F on a report card yaesu Feb 2019 #25
If Trump's grades were consistent with his claims of being a genius, procon Feb 2019 #8
Exactly. I agree. forklift Feb 2019 #10
Well, he is Professor Emeritus of Trump University, justhanginon Feb 2019 #14
Again, FERPA rules prevent any school from releasing a student's records Joe Nation Feb 2019 #13
yes nt spooky3 Feb 2019 #19
Subpoena them! world wide wally Feb 2019 #15
K&R EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #16
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #17
Oh my. moonseller66 Feb 2019 #20
LOL... SummerSnow Feb 2019 #21
Civics, History, Poli Sci., Economics....F, F ,F ,F..... BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #26
Daddy probably paid for him to graduate SummerSnow Feb 2019 #27
No doubt. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #29
Basic English.... F UpInArms Feb 2019 #32
Fluff. Not enough to rid us of the vermin in the Oval Office. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #22
​Trump is sweating cheeseburger grease today nt yaesu Feb 2019 #23
What I want to know is, what exactly are we getting for all of this? ForgedCrank Feb 2019 #31
Trump threatening to sue a school for breaking the law was not it. hughee99 Feb 2019 #33
A charge of intimidation/criminal threat is what we get out of it. ehrnst Feb 2019 #34
I have to say, I've almost lost faith in Mueller. If this was a valid ForgedCrank Feb 2019 #37
Mueller will not be pressing charges against Trump, that's not his job. ehrnst Feb 2019 #38
I'm guessing Rump's combined SAT score was musette_sf Feb 2019 #39

lark

(23,193 posts)
2. Hiding proof positive from decades back that's he's always been a lazy entitled ignoramus.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:33 PM
Feb 2019

Emphasis on the lazy and ignorant part, with a side of pure lazy stupidity.

spooky3

(34,527 posts)
5. Not to split hairs, but university officials know that student
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:36 PM
Feb 2019

records must be kept confidential. It’s not necessary to “threaten” anyone. Cohen had only to ask for assurance that the law would be complied with, in the case of a political campaign, and he was right to protect his client on this. I’m not sure why this particular incident is a big deal. The public doesn’t have the right to have this info—unlike tax records and other info.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
9. that's correct, but the big deal is that the orange asshole directed cohen to threaten them.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:05 PM
Feb 2019

that's just how stupid the orange asshole is.

11. It goes to the character and truthfulness of Fat Donnie.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:17 PM
Feb 2019

My thought is that Donnie Two Scoops' biggest fear is not impeachment or jail -- it's the public finding out what a fake he is. He's not as smart or as rich as he keeps bragging. I imagine the committee will call the Deans of Records at his colleges in to testify about their being threatened with criminal action if they don't comply with the Don's demands. They can then produce Trump's entire academic record, which he'll claim are faked.

spooky3

(34,527 posts)
18. I'm not a lawyer, but I do not believe the Congress can require a university to break the law,
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:01 PM
Feb 2019

in this case, to reveal student records without the agreement of the student/former student.

The law is so comprehensive that universities cannot even reveal certain info to the PARENTS of students without the student's consent - even if they are paying for all of the student's expenses.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Lawyers threaten people not to do illegal things every day
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:50 PM
Feb 2019

Why this was included is a head scratcher. It’s something of a nothingberder.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
35. You're right. But now I'm curious. I would...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:34 AM
Feb 2019

... never have expected to see trump’s school records become an issue. They are already confidential, and typically mundane and boring. So what if his grades were mediocre, or if he was disciplined for skipping class or putting a live goat in the dean’s office. It’s not like his base would react in horror if he was a C student, or if he flouted authority in school. That’s just being trump.

So why go out of your way to write to these institutions to remind them that they can’t release his records? Is there something there that actually would be interesting to learn? Maybe he had failing grades and he felt that wasn’t consistent with his crafted image of being the smartest and bestest person in any given room - but again, so what? That would probably help his base identify even more with him - “Yep, I failed out of high school but I always knowed I wuz smarter than they thinked I wuz - just like trump!”

Witnesses who go out of their way to hide something that typically is not suspicious to start with ... usually means something is interesting.

I’m probably over thinking it, but sometimes my imagination runs a little wild.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. IMHO it is primarily due to a piece of rightwing folklore
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:44 AM
Feb 2019

There is a myth widely-believed on the right that Barack Obama went through some sort of extraordinary effort to conceal his academic records.

It ties into the birther thing. One of their idiotic beliefs is that Barack Obama received some sort of benefit from being enrolled as a "foreign student" in college, as if there was some sort of "foreign student benefit".

It's totally nuts, but Trump is a big believer in that bullshit and presumably directed Cohen to do what these morons think Obama did.

There may have also been items in the media suggesting Trump was less than a stellar student, and so they might have done some pre-emptive threatening just in case someone decided to leak something. People do that sort of thing. Look at, for example, the IRS investigator who was arrested and left twisting in the wind for giving Avenatti stuff that law enforcement already had.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. If Trump's grades were consistent with his claims of being a genius,
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:57 PM
Feb 2019

then he would have been ecstatic to make the records public. It's more than likely that Trump knew his grades were somewhat less spectacular than he's boasted, and he had a legitimate concern that some anonymous functionaries at the schools would gleefully forward his less than stellar academic transcripts on to WaPo.

 

forklift

(401 posts)
10. Exactly. I agree.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:12 PM
Feb 2019

Most people proudly display their degrees and accomplishments on a wall in their house or office.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
14. Well, he is Professor Emeritus of Trump University,
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

Not sure if he has a certificate hanging in his office.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
20. Oh my.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:03 PM
Feb 2019

The genius is probably upset and embarrassed about that 1900 on his 60s SAT.

(And that was with a stright face!)

ForgedCrank

(1,786 posts)
31. What I want to know is, what exactly are we getting for all of this?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:49 PM
Feb 2019

Personally, I don't need to see his school grades, I already know he's an idiot.
so the question is, did we uncover anything illegal today that will assist in impeaching this orange bastard?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. Trump threatening to sue a school for breaking the law was not it.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:27 AM
Feb 2019

There are some other things that could be, but Cohen’s word alone isn’t going to matter unless he has hard evidence. All in all, I didn’t hear anything that was a smoking gun, and without a lot more evidence, nothing that would get the votes for impeachment, let alone removal by the senate.

ForgedCrank

(1,786 posts)
37. I have to say, I've almost lost faith in Mueller. If this was a valid
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:11 PM
Feb 2019

option, and Cohen had been interviewed by Mueller 7 times, why is this not already a pending charge after a year?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. Mueller will not be pressing charges against Trump, that's not his job.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:55 PM
Feb 2019

He will present his findings, and it's up to Congress and the Senate to impeach. Once impeached, or out of office charges can be brought.

We don't know if this is something that Mueller has or hasn't looked into. It may well be included in his report.

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