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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 03:18 PM Jan 2020

Venezuela's last democratic institution falls as Maduro stages de facto takeover of National Assembl

Source: WaPo

By Rachelle Krygier and
Anthony Faiola
Jan. 5, 2020 at 1:56 p.m. EST
CARACAS, Venezuela — The government of President Nicolás Maduro staged a de facto takeover of Venezuela's legislature on Sunday, swearing in its own candidate as head of the National Assembly in a move apparently orchestrated to rob international credibility from Juan Guaidó, who had led the body and has staked a rival claim as head of state.

The dramatic events marked a sharp escalation in Maduro’s gambit to end Guaidó’s quest to unseat him and stoked immediate outrage in Washington — which has strongly backed Guaidó and condemned Sunday’s action. Opposition officials declared the move an effective “parliamentary coup” meant to consolidate Maduro’s near-dictatorial powers.

“Parliamentary coup by the Maduro dictatorship against the National Assembly,” Guaidó’s communications team said in a tweet. “Without a vote or quorum, ruling-party lawmakers and corrupt lawmakers swear in a false leader.”

The replacement of Guaidó amounted to a bait and switch. On Sunday, he began the day anticipating his reelection as head of the National Assembly, viewed internationally as the last democratic institution left in the authoritarian South American state. Guaidó’s claim as the nation’s true president — recognized by nearly 60 countries, including the United States — has been based on his status as the assembly’s chief.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/venezuelas-last-democratic-institution-falls-as-maduro-stages-de-facto-takeover-of-national-assembly/2020/01/05/8ba496fe-2d8f-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html



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Venezuela's last democratic institution falls as Maduro stages de facto takeover of National Assembl (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
"Without a vote or quorum, ruling-party lawmakers and corrupt lawmakers swear in a false leader." mountain grammy Jan 2020 #1
Yeah. You could definitely draw that comparison. And all the GOP will do it; every f'ing one. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #3
well, seeing what a putrid clusterfuck the so called "Democracy" is in this country yaesu Jan 2020 #2
Because it wasn't the self proclaimed unelected president Guaido Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #4
Just your run of the mill authoritarian? brooklynite Jan 2020 #5
Nope, just your run of the mill socialist hated by the US propaganda machine Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #6
Venezuela's problems are connected Corporations and covert US policy StClone Jan 2020 #7
lol....Venz.'s problems are totally inept government. EX500rider Jan 2020 #8
You are an expert I concede. StClone Jan 2020 #12
"pissant observations" EX500rider Jan 2020 #14
LOL When good ole USA intends to disabale you imgine how bad things can get. StClone Jan 2020 #16
And proof the US has ruined Venezuela's economy or just take your word for it? lol EX500rider Jan 2020 #17
Read this StClone Jan 2020 #18
Maybe you should read it... EX500rider Jan 2020 #19
Things can get even worse. The Sancrtions are making it worse StClone Jan 2020 #21
FYI-I am not-pro_Maduro StClone Jan 2020 #22
Yes a covert effort you have zero proof for... EX500rider Jan 2020 #23
There are no economic sanctions against VZ - we are their largest trading partner. nt hack89 Jan 2020 #24
He's not a Socialist Bradical79 Jan 2020 #20
Unbelievable NCProgressive Jan 2020 #9
Zero Percent of Elite Commentators Oppose Regime Change in Venezuela Judi Lynn Jan 2020 #10
IF QualTest Jan 2020 #11
"And, we would stop manipulating their currency" LOL, not the US doing that... EX500rider Jan 2020 #13
There are no economic sanctions against VZ - we are their largest trading partner. hack89 Jan 2020 #15
They hear "sanctions" and there's only one kind possible Igel Jan 2020 #25

mountain grammy

(26,661 posts)
1. "Without a vote or quorum, ruling-party lawmakers and corrupt lawmakers swear in a false leader."
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jan 2020

The US Senate?

Evolve Dammit

(16,788 posts)
3. Yeah. You could definitely draw that comparison. And all the GOP will do it; every f'ing one.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jan 2020

Prove me wrong Murkowski, Collins, Romney. Gutless betrayers of the Constitution and the U.S. 45 is a threat to the world; ignore at your peril.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
2. well, seeing what a putrid clusterfuck the so called "Democracy" is in this country
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jan 2020

he probably knows his country was heading the same way. We will never recover, maybe his country has a chance.

Farmer-Rick

(10,219 posts)
4. Because it wasn't the self proclaimed unelected president Guaido
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jan 2020

Then it is a coup? Very strange criteria for WaPo to have.

Trump Dumpy really likes Guaido and his pretty young wife. That's enough for me to know they are despicable.

If Bezos antisocialist WaPo let me read the article and not hide it behind a pay wall...because we all know Bezos needs even more stolen loot from our dying democracy...then I could give a more detailed reason of why this article is full of spin, spin spin ....ok I'm dizzy.

Is Maduro pro Dumpy Trumpy? Oh wait no he's not, because unlike Putin and Kim, he's not a mass murdering dick.

StClone

(11,690 posts)
7. Venezuela's problems are connected Corporations and covert US policy
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:03 PM
Jan 2020

US-Led Economic War, not Socialism, is tearing Venezuela apart. Central and S. America have been a plaything for decades.

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
8. lol....Venz.'s problems are totally inept government.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:24 AM
Jan 2020

The US did not:

Make them confiscate business's and drive off foreign investment.
Institute moronic multi-level currency controls drying up source of dollars needed for imports like FOOD & MEDICINE.
Fire the capable oil managers and replace them with lackys resulting in falling oil output and oil exports needed to run the govt.
Ruin the local food production with farms broken up and given to non farmers.
Fail to invest in infrastructure resulting in a failing electrical grid.
etc...


StClone

(11,690 posts)
12. You are an expert I concede.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:50 AM
Jan 2020

Many experts give a big picture explanation of how the problems were exasperated fostering the problems you submit. Big picture tells you El Salvatore, Guatemala and Honduras and Chile can show better than the what you processes. Many experts see pissant observations you espouse as the problem to plaster over the real culprits.

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
14. "pissant observations"
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jan 2020

Ruining their major export, oil is not a small problem. They fired the competent workers and put in lackeys and failed to invest in infrastructure maintenance and scared off the multinational oil field help that they needed.






EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
17. And proof the US has ruined Venezuela's economy or just take your word for it? lol
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jan 2020

And very recent sanctions don't explain their economy tanking for the last 10 years.

StClone

(11,690 posts)
18. Read this
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jan 2020
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10715.pdf on edit: I am on a flight right now (causing problems with internet) to Caracas. My family is from Los Teques and of Spanish/Baniwa people decent. You are all about anti-Sovialism is my guess and maybe are from L. America. I have lived through Hugo and know what went on.

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
19. Maybe you should read it...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jan 2020

We not selling them weapons did not ruin their economy.

We sanctioning some high level government members for their crimes against the Venezuelan populace did not ruin their economy.

All the additional sanctions occured in the last year and their economy has been a disaster since 2012.

StClone

(11,690 posts)
21. Things can get even worse. The Sancrtions are making it worse
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

And the Elites can really take over. There has been a covert effort to undermind Socialsm for all those years. It is working!

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
23. Yes a covert effort you have zero proof for...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

...while tons of proof exist for the horrible policies enacted by the venez. govt. that DID destroy their economy.

Explain how the US govt caused the oil production to fall? You know, their practically only export?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Venezuelan_oil_industry#Enabling_act_laws_and_controversy

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
20. He's not a Socialist
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jan 2020

He's a conman. No legit socialist is a multi-millionaire who spends millions of government money on his personal comfort and luxuries.

Judi Lynn

(160,655 posts)
10. Zero Percent of Elite Commentators Oppose Regime Change in Venezuela
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jan 2020

APRIL 30, 2019

TEDDY OSTROW

A FAIR survey of US opinion journalism on Venezuela found no voices in elite corporate media that opposed regime change in that country. Over a three-month period (1/15/19–4/15/19), zero opinion pieces in the New York Times and Washington Post took an anti–regime change or pro-Maduro/Chavista position. Not a single commentator on the big three Sunday morning talkshows or PBS NewsHour came out against President Nicolás Maduro stepping down from the Venezuelan government.

Of the 76 total articles, opinion videos or TV commentator segments that centered on or gave more than passing attention to Venezuela, 54 (72 percent) expressed explicit support for the Maduro administration’s ouster. Eleven (14 percent) were ambiguous, but were only classified as such for lack of explicit language. Reading between the lines, most of these were clearly also pro–regime change. Another 11 (14 percent) took no position, but many similarly offered ideological ammo for those in support.

The Times published 22 pro–regime change commentaries, three ambiguous and five without a position. The Post also spared no space for the pro-Chavista camp: 22 of its articles expressed support for the end to Maduro’s administration, eight were ambiguous and four took no position. Of the 12 TV opinions surveyed, 10 were pro-regime change and two took no position.

(The Times and Post pieces were found through a Nexis search for “Venezuela” between 1/15/19–4/15/19 using each paper as a source, narrowed to opinion articles and editorials. The search was supplemented with an examination of each outlet’s opinion/blog pages. The TV commentary segments were found through Nexis searches for “Venezuela” and the name of the talkshow during the same time period, in the folders of the corresponding television network: NBC News/CBS News transcripts, ABC News transcripts, and PBS NewsHour. Non-opinion TV news segments were omitted. The full list of items included can be found here.)

Corporate news coverage of Venezuela can only be described as a full-scale marketing campaign for regime change. If you’ve been reading FAIR recently (1/25/19, 2/9/19, 3/16/19)—or, indeed, since the early 2000s (4/18/02; Extra!, 11–12/05)—the anti-Maduro unanimity espoused in the most influential US media should come as no surprise.

This comes despite the existence of millions of Venezuelans who support Maduro—who was democratically elected twice by the same electoral system that won Juan Guaidó his seat in the National Assembly—and oppose US/foreign intervention. FAIR (2/20/19) has pointed out corporate media’s willful erasure of vast improvements to Venezuelan life under Chavismo, particularly for the oppressed poor, black, indigenous and mestizo populations. FAIR has also noted the lack of discussion of US-imposed sanctions, which have killed at least 40,000 Venezuelans between 2017–18 alone, and continue to devastate the Venezuelan economy.

More:
https://fair.org/home/zero-percent-of-elite-commentators-oppose-regime-change-in-venezuela/

 

QualTest

(84 posts)
11. IF
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:11 AM
Jan 2020

We would lift hurtful sanctions on the country, that seems to only hurt the populace, and not the govt.
And, we would stop manipulating their currency, as well as trying to name unelected leaders as president,
and funding right wing orgs to push coups constantly...

Maybe Venezuela wouldn't be such a shit show. But, we'll never know, because we can't keep our noses
out of there. Same as Bolivia, or Chile, or Brazil… Or, the rest of S. America, that's OUR playground! By
God we're going to keep it clean and open for American Corps, and interests, and that's that! Damn IT!

Who care how many coups, assassinations, or wars we have to underwrite!

EX500rider

(10,882 posts)
13. "And, we would stop manipulating their currency" LOL, not the US doing that...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jan 2020

"Since the government of Hugo Chávez established strict currency controls in 2003, there have been a series of five currency devaluations, disrupting the economy.[16] On 8 January 2010, the value was changed by the government from the fixed exchange rate of 2.15 bolívares fuertes to 2.60 bolívares for some imports (certain foods and healthcare goods) and 4.30 bolívares for other imports like cars, petrochemicals, and electronics.[17] On 4 January 2011, the fixed exchange rate became 4.30 bolívares for US$1.00 for both sides of the economy. On 13 February 2013 the bolívar fuerte was devalued to 6.30 bolívares per US$1 in an attempt to counter budget deficits.[18] On 18 February 2016, President Maduro used his newly granted economic powers to devalue the official exchange rate of the bolívar fuerte from 6.3 Bs.F per US$1 to 10 Bs.F per US$1, which is a 37% depreciation against the U.S. dollar.[19]

The bolívar fuerte entered hyperinflation in November 2016.[20]

On January 26, 2018, the government retired the protected and subsidized 10 Bs.F per US$1 exchange rate that was highly overvalued as a result of rampant inflation.[21] On February 5, 2018, the Central Bank of Venezuela announced a 99.6% [sic] devaluation, with the exchange rate going to 25,000 Bs.F per USD. This made the bolívar fuerte the second-least valued circulating currency in the world based on the official exchange rate, behind only the Iranian rial, and between September 2017 and August 2018, according to the informal exchange rate, the bolívar fuerte was the least valued circulating currency unit in the world.[22]
The official exchange rate stood at 248,832 VEF/USD as of August 10, 2018, making it the least valued circulating currency in the world based on official exchange rates.[23]

In June 2018, the government authorized a new exchange rate for buying, but not selling currency. On August 13, 2018, the rate was 4,010,000 VEF/USD according to ZOOM Remesas."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_bol%C3%ADvar

Not the US doing all that mess to their currency but the Venz. govt.
Explain what you think the US did to their currency.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. There are no economic sanctions against VZ - we are their largest trading partner.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jan 2020

Their own inept management destroyed their currency. They imposed currency laws that made it impossible for VZ companies to get the dollars they needed to import goods and materials.

Igel

(35,382 posts)
25. They hear "sanctions" and there's only one kind possible
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jan 2020

that exculpates the good guy.

Why? Because he's a good guy. You know that from his words--all his policies' failings must be sabotage from outside, incompetence inside, etc.

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