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riversedge

(70,367 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:01 PM Jan 2020

Trump will try to block Bolton impeachment testimony; Senate to get case next week, Pelosi says

Source: LaTimes




Jan. 10, 2020 11:54 AM


President Trump said Friday he would invoke executive privilege to try to block his former national security advisor from testifying in a Senate impeachment trial as Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House will be prepared to move articles of impeachment to the Senate next week.

Trump’s statement, in an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, marked the first time he openly said he would try to block John Bolton from testifying if the Senate were to subpoena his former advisor.

“I think you have to, for the sake of the office,” he said when Ingraham asked if he would try to prevent such testimony.

Whether the Senate would have to accept an executive privilege claim in an impeachment trial is an issue that’s never been resolved.

Trump’s statement came as Pelosi signaled an end to a standoff between House Democrats and Senate Republicans that has delayed a Senate trial of the case.
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Trump will try to block Bolton impeachment testimony; Senate to get case next week, Pelosi says (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2020 OP
"for the sake of the office". Okay now THAT'S FUNNY underpants Jan 2020 #1
That was my first guffaw. What an ass! erronis Jan 2020 #10
Of course he will....more court fights unles Bolton goes rouge AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #2
R-O-G-U-E leftieNanner Jan 2020 #6
I used to work in a cosmetics store peacefreak2.0 Jan 2020 #28
I can see Bolton going "rouge" with blood vessels popping all over the place. erronis Jan 2020 #9
Bolton has always been completely self-centered. He might be too ticked off being dissed by someone Judi Lynn Jan 2020 #17
One more thought.... FarPoint Jan 2020 #32
I think the main reason Bolton is pissed would be because Drumpf totally fucked up his original... Crowman2009 Jan 2020 #3
No, Bolton is just pimping his book. PSPS Jan 2020 #13
the House will be "prepared"!!! to move articles of impeachment to the Senate next week yaesu Jan 2020 #4
Words like 'prepared', 'may', are not breaking news material empedocles Jan 2020 #12
Nothing to hide!! Grokenstein Jan 2020 #5
All part of Moscow Mitch and the Orange Anus's Game plan!!!!!!! Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #7
not quite what pelosi said.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #8
Nice potential screenplay. Looking forward to the hysterics and histrionics from looney don. erronis Jan 2020 #11
Seems odd that the defense in a trial can block any witnesses against him. Kablooie Jan 2020 #14
Trump doesn't "do" laws..... SergeStorms Jan 2020 #16
That happens often....that's Exactly what a competent defense team does. AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #21
Couldn't this be a super bad thing for Mitch McConnell though? Garion_55 Jan 2020 #15
No...Bolton going to SCOTUS wouldn't stop the Senate proceedure AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #20
No. former9thward Jan 2020 #22
Use executive privilege to block investigation of the executive? bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #18
I don't think you can invoke executive privilege to cover up a crime. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #23
And yet ... intrepidity Jan 2020 #27
I'm so shocked (stifles a deep yawn...). NM Grins Jan 2020 #19
The dipshit is going to find out he can't do everything Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #24
Cheetox needs to promise bolton a front seat... Maxheader Jan 2020 #25
45 million Americans know rump is guilty but they love that he is and they are Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #26
What if Bolton just ignores shitler and testifies anyway? Talitha Jan 2020 #29
Pelosi vote on whether to send articles to Senate MySideOfTown Jan 2020 #30
BUT! QualTest Jan 2020 #31
hmmm dump_trump_now Jan 2020 #33
wow, that headline doesn't reflect the truth of what Pelosi said. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #34
CJ Roberts will have a say DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #35
#DesperateDonald #PosteriorProtection CBHagman Jan 2020 #36
Bolton is gonna spill Gurmal Jan 2020 #37

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
28. I used to work in a cosmetics store
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jan 2020

and a little old lady tottled up to me and said that exact thing!😄😄

erronis

(15,393 posts)
9. I can see Bolton going "rouge" with blood vessels popping all over the place.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not sure I can see him going "rogue" since his is still an artifact (and architect) of the neocons and war-mongers.

Judi Lynn

(160,655 posts)
17. Bolton has always been completely self-centered. He might be too ticked off being dissed by someone
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jan 2020

so profoundly stupid as Trump, and try to put distance between them on HIS terms, not Trump's.

Whatever it is Bolton is, and it's not good, the one weakness he doesn't seem to indulge is looking up to anyone and it's possible the time has come to publicly rid himself of something as nasty as Trump, even though he is an unbearable All Star A-Hole himself.

I would love to see Bolton go rogue and blow up over Trump's filthy history he was forced to endure.

FarPoint

(12,471 posts)
32. One more thought....
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:38 AM
Jan 2020

I think both Bolton and Trump...they are playing us.....no real intent to testify...just smoke and mirrors...I hope I am wrong...

Crowman2009

(2,504 posts)
3. I think the main reason Bolton is pissed would be because Drumpf totally fucked up his original...
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:06 PM
Jan 2020

...regime change plan.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
4. the House will be "prepared"!!! to move articles of impeachment to the Senate next week
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jan 2020

not WILL give the articles to the Senate. Why does MSM keep insisting this point when its not what she said.

getagrip_already

(14,907 posts)
8. not quite what pelosi said....
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jan 2020

She said she asked {house whip - forgot name) to be ready to hold a vote next tuesday. She didn't say the vote would be on the managers, just sending over the articles.

So Tuesday they vote to send them over, then by the end of the week they arrive, but what about the managers? She will likely schedule a second vote the following week to name them.

Then the sotu happens. But unless moscow pushes to change the rules and hold an immediate vote, there is no way it will be done in time to finish before the sotu.

Which was her real goal. To have him run out of oxygen while giving the sotu and flying off in some rant.

He wouldn't be able to control himself. She would be right behind him burning a hole in his dimented ego.

Trump won't be able to set up his oxygen cannon in the podium like he does at the rallies. That's probably how he survives them - a constant blast of pure oxygen blowing in his face.

So it's more of a game of chicken, with the sotu being the train.

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
14. Seems odd that the defense in a trial can block any witnesses against him.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jan 2020

There really needs to be some laws defined to prevent this kind of criminal behavior in the future.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
16. Trump doesn't "do" laws.....
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jan 2020

they could pass all the laws and legislation you could think of, and Trump would declare himself above them all. But of course he's "totally innocent".

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
21. That happens often....that's Exactly what a competent defense team does.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020

It's the prosecution that has the burden of proof

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
15. Couldn't this be a super bad thing for Mitch McConnell though?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

Pretend there are enough votes to call Bolton I mean probably not but just pretend. The Senate called Bolton the case gets sent to the Supreme Court, it takes 6 to 8 months to decide, but meanwhile that whole time the Senate won't be able to vote to acquit Trump because they are waiting on the courts. The case will be stuck in limbo in the Senate until they get a Supreme Court ruling.


This thing could drag out all the way to the general election

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
20. No...Bolton going to SCOTUS wouldn't stop the Senate proceedure
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jan 2020

The Senate can vote as they set the vote rules....Bolton irrelevant.

23. I don't think you can invoke executive privilege to cover up a crime.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:23 PM
Jan 2020

It would be the ultimate "Get Of Jail Free" card for a corrupt president.

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
25. Cheetox needs to promise bolton a front seat...
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020

to a war...somewhere,,

That'll put a smile on the little brown turds face...Bolton will sing praises to the moron....War !!the republicuns wet dream...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
26. 45 million Americans know rump is guilty but they love that he is and they are
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jan 2020

very excited at the possibility that putin and rump can imprison or kill all non followers.

MySideOfTown

(225 posts)
30. Pelosi vote on whether to send articles to Senate
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020

will force all the Repubs in the house to vote for or against. If they vote for, it can be construed as a bipartisan impeachment. If they vote against, it can be construed as them wanting to delay. Rock and Hard Place.

 

QualTest

(84 posts)
31. BUT!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 01:55 AM
Jan 2020

His call was "Perfect", and he is completely "Clean", and he was just hoping for "Corruption Reform", and But, and But....
So, why is having any testimony, or documents released from his "Perfect and Lawful" exercise a problem for him?
He should be lining up all the big names to support his "Perfectness", right?

What a Crock of Crap! We can't be rid of this con man, mafioso, fast enough! Makes my skin crawl!

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
34. wow, that headline doesn't reflect the truth of what Pelosi said.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:23 PM
Jan 2020

She said she had instructed House to have materials prepared by next week. She did not say when she plans to transmit them to Senate.

DeminPennswoods

(15,292 posts)
35. CJ Roberts will have a say
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jan 2020

A Dem senator who was in office during the Clinton impeachment was on MSBNC, iirc, the other day explaining the process. He said that the presiding officer of the Senate, in this case it will be Roberts, rules on the motion for witness testimony or document requests, then there may or may not be a vote to override his decision.

Whichever way Roberts rules will be a good inidication of which way the Supreme Court will rule when these executive privilege/WH claims of total immunity cases come before it. If Roberts rules Bolton must testify, that is a sign the WH will lose all the lawsuits it has brought against Congress since Roberts is probably the 5th and deciding vote.

Another guest also explained that 50, not 51, votes are needed to have witnesses/documents and VP Pence has no role/vote whatsoever in the impeachment trial. I'm guessing this is because Roberts would be the tie-breaking vote and presumably would vote to uphold his own ruling/decision.

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