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Omaha Steve

(99,793 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:15 PM Jan 2020

Kellogg's commits to reducing widely used herbicide in supply chain; wheat growers surprised

Source: Omaha World Herald- W Post

Kellogg’s, the multinational food manufacturer based in Battle Creek, Michigan, is taking a stand.

But very quietly.

At the end of 2019, the company made a commitment to phase out by 2025 wheat and oats on which farmers have used glyphosate as a drying agent, says Kellogg’s chief sustainability officer, Amy Senter. Glyphosate is the active ingredient in Roundup, the Bayer-Monsanto weedkiller that is the nation’s most heavily used herbicide.

Although this practice is not widespread in Kellogg’s wheat and oat supply chains, the company said in a post on its Open for Breakfast website: “We are working with our suppliers to phase out using glyphosate as pre-harvest drying agent in our wheat and oat supply chain in our major markets.” That includes Britain, France, the United States, Canada, Mexico and Australia.



Although the practice is not widespread in Kellogg’s wheat and oat supply chains, the company said in a post on its Open for Breakfast website: “We are working with our suppliers to phase out using glyphosate as pre-harvest drying agent in our wheat and oat supply chain in our major markets.” That includes Britain, France, the United States, Canada, Mexico and Australia.

Read more: https://www.omaha.com/money/consumer/kellogg-s-commits-to-reducing-widely-used-herbicide-in-supply/article_20b1c12e-7211-5aef-b124-c66fe72e4432.html

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Kellogg's commits to reducing widely used herbicide in supply chain; wheat growers surprised (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2020 OP
"pre-harvest drying agent " bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #1
remember how Trump sided with Monsanto over the this weed killer............ riversedge Jan 2020 #3
I live near a crop dusting company airport. pazzyanne Jan 2020 #9
It's appalling how Monsanto has sold this into all kinds of dangerous niches. lagomorph777 Jan 2020 #15
Harvest timing and uniformity bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #17
Roundup used in Florida and Louisiana to dry out all their sugar crop right before harvest womanofthehills Jan 2020 #23
Nearby smaller organic growers have been angered since the stuff Backseat Driver Jan 2020 #34
Approved for use as a dessicant for nuts, legumes, grains Backseat Driver Jan 2020 #35
It is widespread in wheat country... Dickster Jan 2020 #31
gluten intolerance KT2000 Jan 2020 #2
That lights the lamp for me bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #6
Yup lagomorph777 Jan 2020 #16
Important information. Thanks. (nt) klook Jan 2020 #28
It should be easy to determine if it's gluten by switching non-GMO wheat products LeftInTX Jan 2020 #18
Neighborhoods KT2000 Jan 2020 #22
Non GMO does not mean no Roundup. Glyphosate is used for drying lots of crops that are not GMO. womanofthehills Jan 2020 #24
Very interesting by the way. Never thought of this. LeftInTX Jan 2020 #19
I might go out and buy a box of corn flakes if they do oldsoftie Jan 2020 #4
You need to wait 5 years womanofthehills Jan 2020 #26
Oh for pete's sake. You can just about build an aircraft carrier in that time! oldsoftie Jan 2020 #36
We're fucked. Big Agri, Petro-chemical and Pharma is killing us; and laughing all the way. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #5
Email to Kellogg's steventh Jan 2020 #7
The letter I will write, is why poison people for the next 5 yrs womanofthehills Jan 2020 #25
That's what I was wondering too. Rorey Jan 2020 #27
Glyphosate drying use is in the single digits for acres grown NickB79 Jan 2020 #8
Here is a list of products that contain measureable amounts of glyphosate pazzyanne Jan 2020 #10
Those aren't getting much of any of their glyphosate from drying, though NickB79 Jan 2020 #37
Mostly used in northern states with shorter growing seasons - plus Canada womanofthehills Jan 2020 #30
In my 40 yr living in a northern state in farm country I have yet to see it NickB79 Jan 2020 #38
It's in most of our food and the government stopped testing because it's so prevalent womanofthehills Jan 2020 #32
See post #9. nt pazzyanne Jan 2020 #39
Although this usage of glyphosate only accounts for a small % of overall use, patphil Jan 2020 #11
Those greedy bastards... I_have_had_enough Jan 2020 #12
This makes sense...it probably won't work on GMO wheat however LeftInTX Jan 2020 #20
Too little too late olddad65 Jan 2020 #13
Yes, everything in that song They_Live Jan 2020 #21
I have long said that Rorey Jan 2020 #29
Strawberries and spinach - highest amts of pesticidea womanofthehills Jan 2020 #33
So they have come to the realization that killing your customers is bad for business? mdbl Jan 2020 #14
Oh, as long as there are people stupid enough to support Trump... olddad65 Jan 2020 #40

bucolic_frolic

(43,382 posts)
1. "pre-harvest drying agent "
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jan 2020

Yikes. They told us it was for weed control. Now it's used for something else. Never heard that before.

riversedge

(70,360 posts)
3. remember how Trump sided with Monsanto over the this weed killer............
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jan 2020

All this dangerous crap is going on week after week. Glad to see Kellogg standing up against its use.




Trump EPA Sides With Bayer/Monsanto Over Science, Claims Cancer-Causing Weedkiller ‘Safe’ | @ewg | http://bit.ly/2vwPlmy

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
9. I live near a crop dusting company airport.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jan 2020

There is more crop dusting activity in August and September than in the spring. I am totally in support of Kellogg's decision. I have avoided all use of Round-up since it was introduced. Won't have it on my place. Imagine my angst when I found out that my "healthy" oatmeal breakfast choice contains a good percentage of glyphosate.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. It's appalling how Monsanto has sold this into all kinds of dangerous niches.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jan 2020

How the hell can the farmers justify not only the danger to the public, but the price paid to Monsanto? Why the hell do they need a "drying agent?" What's wrong with air?

And...why would it take 5 years for Kellogg's to phase out the unnecessary use of a terrible poison?

bucolic_frolic

(43,382 posts)
17. Harvest timing and uniformity
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jan 2020

prob explain why they use a drying agent. But couldn't they find sometihing non toxic? Lime, baking soda ... i don't know, I'm not a chemist. I'm just appalled that it's in widespread use that we've never heard of. That sort of implies they use it twice on a crop - once for weed control and once at the end of growing season to boost yield and palpability. Outrageous.

womanofthehills

(8,790 posts)
23. Roundup used in Florida and Louisiana to dry out all their sugar crop right before harvest
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

Good idea to only eat organic sugar and grains.

Backseat Driver

(4,400 posts)
34. Nearby smaller organic growers have been angered since the stuff
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

can fly through the air with the greatest of ease and disturb their crops' certification standards. Do your research, even on Certified products of brands noted for being all-natural. I'm pretty sure there's a rating of cereals on the Environmental Working Group. I've noted that some Kashi cereals use sources that are now transitioning to "organic" though still not yet certified organic - these may just hold a non-GMO label at this time.

That dolt in the WH approved that sludge-dump fertilizer(s), too. I suppose we should be prepared for more field crop recalls for disease concerns.

Dickster

(104 posts)
31. It is widespread in wheat country...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jan 2020

Roundup is used about 10 days before harvest to kill any weeds that may be present that would make it more difficult to harvest. It also kills any unripe wheat plants in order to even out the ripeness of the plants. Before Roundup, most farmers cut and windrowed the wheat with a swather, and left the cut wheat plants in a narrow row where it was left for a day or two to dry out and desicate any weeds. Then it was picked up by a special header that fed it into the combines and threshed. The system works but the wheat in windrows are susceptible to rain, and once wet, takes longer to dry out. The use of Roundup just makes it a little easier to harvest, as the wheat can be straight cut with a bigger header on the combine. I agree that it should not be allowed that close to harvest.

KT2000

(20,596 posts)
2. gluten intolerance
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jan 2020

may really be glyphosate intolerance as some research has found. Never can get enough glyphosate!

bucolic_frolic

(43,382 posts)
6. That lights the lamp for me
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jan 2020

it's all come to a head the last 5 months. slight gluten allergy. Metals, some significant allergen. All of which is less when avoid wheat, then eliminate milk, potatoes, tomatoes for a couple weeks. So it was all doing a pancreas number.

Knowledge is power. Doctors would never figure it out.

LeftInTX

(25,644 posts)
18. It should be easy to determine if it's gluten by switching non-GMO wheat products
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

GMOs are the main reason for extensive Round Up use.

The two other major Round Up Ready (GMOs) are corn and soy.

Corn in particular because it's everywhere.
I don't know how much soy is GMO.

KT2000

(20,596 posts)
22. Neighborhoods
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020

are another source as well as schools, parks, public planting areas, and roadsides. We are constantly breathing, tracking into our homes, and touching glyphosate. Our poor bodies are having to process it and then we eat the stuff.

womanofthehills

(8,790 posts)
24. Non GMO does not mean no Roundup. Glyphosate is used for drying lots of crops that are not GMO.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Almonds are another crop with high levels of glyphosate. Eating organic seems to be best, but you still get some glyphosate from pesticide drift, rain, water, etc.

Evolve Dammit

(16,785 posts)
5. We're fucked. Big Agri, Petro-chemical and Pharma is killing us; and laughing all the way.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jan 2020

And the "health care" corporate providers are raking in the bucks as we get sick and die. It's PERFECT! I appreciate countries like France that actually try to address some of these issues. We need to take it back. Desperately.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
7. Email to Kellogg's
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for posting this information. I was inspired to write an email to Kellogg's encouraging them to eliminate glyphosate from their products.

https://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/contact-us.html


Omaha World Herald reported that Kellogg's "made a commitment to phase out by 2025 wheat and oats on which farmers have used glyphosate as a drying agent." I have read that glyphosate, which is used in Roundup and other herbicides, is a carcinogen. I'm horrified that Kellogg's currently allows that chemical in their foods. I look forward to the time when your company's products are free of glyposate. Please keep the media apprised. In the meantime of course I will not buy or consume your products.

NickB79

(19,277 posts)
8. Glyphosate drying use is in the single digits for acres grown
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jan 2020

It is not just "not widespread"; it is quite rare. This shouldn't be hard at all to accomplish.

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
10. Here is a list of products that contain measureable amounts of glyphosate
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jan 2020
https://livelovefruit.com/glyphosate-in-food-complete-list/

Examples of list:

EWG Report (source):
• Granola
– Back to Nature Classic Granola
– Quaker Simply Granola Oats, Honey, Raisins & Almonds
– Back to Nature Banana Walnut Granola Clusters
– Nature Valley Granola Protein Oats ‘n Honey
– KIND Vanilla, Blueberry Clusters with Flax Seeds
• Instant Oats
– Giant Instant Oatmeal, Original Flavor
– Quaker Dinosaur Eggs, Brown Sugar, Instant Oatmeal
– Umpqua Oats, Maple Pecan
– Market Pantry Instant Oatmeal, Strawberries & Cream
• Oat Breakfast Cereal
– Cheerios Toasted Whole Grain Oat Cereal
– Lucky Charms
– Barbara’s Multigrain Spoonfuls, Original, Cereal
– Kellogg’s Cracklin’ Oat Bran oat cereal
• Snack Bars
– KIND Oats & Honey with Toasted Coconut
– Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Oats ‘n Honey
– Quaker Chewy Chocolate Chip granola bar
– Kellogg’s Nutrigrain Soft Baked Breakfast Bars, Strawberry
• Whole Oats
– Quaker Steel Cut Oats
– Quaker Old Fashioned Oats
– Bob’s Red Mill Steel Cut Oats
– Nature’s Path Organic Old Fashioned Organic Oats
– Whole Foods Bulk Bin conventional rolled oats
– Bob’s Red Mill Organic Old Fashioned Rolled Oats (4 samples tested)
– Quaker Simply Granola Oats
– Quaker Instant Oatmeal Cinnamon & Spice
– Quaker Instant Oatmeal Apples & Cinnamon
– Quaker Real Medleys Super Grains Banana Walnut
– Quaker Overnight Oats Raisin Walnut & Honey Heaven
– Quaker Overnight Oats Unsweetened with Chia Seeds
– Quaker Oatmeal Squares Brown Sugar
– Quaker Oatmeal Squares Honey Nut
– Apple Cinnamon Cheerios
– Very Berry Cheerios
– Chocolate Cheerios
– Frosted Cheerios
– Fruity Cheerios
– Honey Nut Cheerios
– Cheerios Oat Crunch Cinnamon
– Quaker Chewy S’mores
– Quaker Chewy Peanut Butter Chocolate Chip
– Quaker Breakfast Squares Soft Baked Bars Peanut Butter
– Quaker Breakfast Flats Crispy Snack Bars Cranberry Almond

EWG Third Report (source):
– Honey Nut Cheerios Medley Crunch
– Cheerios Toasted Whole Grain Oat Cereal
– Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Maple Brown Sugar
– Nature Valley Granola Cups, Almond Butter
– Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios
– Nature Valley Baked Oat Bites
– Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Oats and Honey
– Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Peanut Butter
– Nature Valley Granola Cups, Peanut Butter Chocolate
– Cheerios Oat Crunch Cinnamon
– Nature Valley Fruit & Nut Chewy Trail Mix Granola Bars, Dark Chocolate Cherry
– Nature Valley Granola Protein Oats n Dark Chocolate
– Multi Grain Cheerios
– Nature Valley Soft-Baked Oatmeal Squares, Blueberry
– Fiber One Oatmeal Raisin Soft-Baked Cookies
– Nature Valley Granola Peanut Butter Creamy & Crunchy
– Nature Valley Biscuits with Almond Butter
– Nature Valley Sweet & Salty Nut granola bars, Cashew
– Honey Nut Cheerios
– Nature Valley Soft-Baked Oatmeal Squares, Cinnamon Brown Sugar
– Nature Valley Fruit & Nut Chewy Trail Mix Granola Bars, Dark Chocolate & Nut
Moms Across America (source):
– Tropicana Orange Juice
– Minute Maid Orange Juice
– Stater Bros Orange Juice
– Signature Farms Orange Juice
– Kirkland Orange Juice

NickB79

(19,277 posts)
37. Those aren't getting much of any of their glyphosate from drying, though
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:49 PM
Jan 2020

As I said, DRYING grains with Glyphosate is rare, and easily dropped. The vast majority of Glyphosate exposure, however, is during the growing season, and even from cross-field drift. Your link even validates this:

The Detox Project commissioned tests that found high levels of glyphosate in many American foods – even products that are certified organic or non-GMO.

womanofthehills

(8,790 posts)
30. Mostly used in northern states with shorter growing seasons - plus Canada
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jan 2020

and on sugar crops in Florida and Louisiana - contributing to red tide also.

In fact, in Florida and Louisiana, glyphosate is listed as the only desiccant allowed.

NickB79

(19,277 posts)
38. In my 40 yr living in a northern state in farm country I have yet to see it
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe it's used across the border in the Dakotas, but if so it's still not common. Most farmers already tailor their seed strains very closely to the growing season, and our growing season has been increasing noticeably over the years.

womanofthehills

(8,790 posts)
32. It's in most of our food and the government stopped testing because it's so prevalent
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jan 2020

FDA could not find any US honey samples without glyphosate.


FDA finds Monsanto’s weed killer in US honey samples

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) — under public pressure to start testing samples of U.S. food for the presence of a pesticide that has been linked to cancer — has some early findings that are not so sweet.

In examining honey samples from various locations in the United States, the FDA has found fresh evidence that residues of the weed killer called glyphosate can be pervasive — found even in a food that is not produced with the use of glyphosate.

All of the samples the FDA tested in a recent examination contained glyphosate residues, and some of the honey showed residue levels double the legally allowed limit in the European Union, according to documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. There is no legal tolerance level for glyphosate in honey in the United States, largely, making any amount of detectable glyphosate in honey illegal.

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/296166-fda-finds-monsantos-weed-killer-in-us-honey-samples

patphil

(6,234 posts)
11. Although this usage of glyphosate only accounts for a small % of overall use,
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jan 2020

it represents a much larger percent of overall human dietary exposure since it is used so close to harvest.
Imagine, they kill their crop with glyphosate so it has time to dry more completely in the fields prior to harvest.
What kind of irresponsible farming practice is that!!!

https://www.ecowatch.com/roundup-cancer-1882187755.html

12. Those greedy bastards...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:53 AM
Jan 2020

...will gladly poison us all for an extra 1/2 penny in profit.
I have to think 'family farms' provide a more wholesome product than the big 'corporate farms'.
At least I would like to believe that.

LeftInTX

(25,644 posts)
20. This makes sense...it probably won't work on GMO wheat however
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

I was scratching my head because I assumed Kellogg's probably used GMO (Round Up Ready) wheat, but maybe they don't.....
GMO's are mostly about weeds anyway and maybe weeds aren't a big deal in wheat? (What do I know. I live in Texas)

Hence they are using Glyphosate to kill wheat and oats, so they can be harvested.

olddad65

(599 posts)
13. Too little too late
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:21 AM
Jan 2020

In the late 60s,or early 70s, Quicksilver Messenger Service put out a tune called What About Me. A line in that tune is “and the foods you feed our children are the cause of their disease”.
50 fucking years later, the food the corporate farmers are still growing poisonous food. Between the pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers, and GMO seeds, we din’t stand a chance.

Even the soil that the food is grown in, unless organic, is dead, it is just cheap filler to hold the GMO plants in place while they pump carcinogenic fertilizers in the dirt to feed the seeds.

They_Live

(3,241 posts)
21. Yes, everything in that song
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jan 2020

is still relevant. I just "rediscovered" it last year. All the same issues are going on now.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
29. I have long said that
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jan 2020

It seems like a whole lot of afflictions became so much more prevalent when all that crap started getting put in food.

Side note: All my life I enjoyed strawberries. I started getting an unexplained rash around my mouth and after a long time I realized it was happening after I ate strawberries. My son suggested that it was probably something on them. All I know is they're out of my diet and the rash hasn't happened in a few years.

womanofthehills

(8,790 posts)
33. Strawberries and spinach - highest amts of pesticidea
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jan 2020
The analysis, based on produce samples tested by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, found that strawberries and spinach contained the highest amounts of pesticide residues. One sample of strawberries, for example, tested positive for 20 different pesticides, and spinach contained nearly twice the pesticide residue by weight than any other fruit or vegetable.

https://time.com/5234787/dirty-dozen-pesticides/

olddad65

(599 posts)
40. Oh, as long as there are people stupid enough to support Trump...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

There will people stupid enough to feed their children poison food.

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