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Historic NY

(37,457 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:43 AM May 2020

California House District #25 Special Election

Source: NY Times

The race to replace former Representative Katie Hill pits Christy Smith, a Democrat and longtime elected official, against a Republican, Mike Garcia, a former pilot and current defense contractor.





Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/12/us/elections/results-california-house-district-25-special-general-election.html



Not looking good considering every voter was mailed a ballot. So far Republicans have mailed in 40% to the 27% of their ballots Democrats. Also Democrats outnumber Republicans by 30000 voters.

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California House District #25 Special Election (Original Post) Historic NY May 2020 OP
Why didn't Democrats vote? Lady_Chat May 2020 #1
What happened here? LenaBaby61 May 2020 #5
Either they were too lazy to lick the stamp or they didn't care. Historic NY May 2020 #17
in California, vote by mail envelopes are postage prepaid alp227 May 2020 #20
Well thats even worse...... Historic NY May 2020 #21
Wtff? MFM008 May 2020 #2
That givez maggot bragging rights. LenaBaby61 May 2020 #8
"Not looking good considering every voter was mailed a ballot." LenaBaby61 May 2020 #3
Hill should never have resigned still_one May 2020 #4
"Hill should never have resigned." LenaBaby61 May 2020 #6
THis was a pure right wing operation to take Hill out, on a consensual relationship no less still_one May 2020 #7
"THis was a pure right wing operation to take Hill out, on a consensual relationship no less." LenaBaby61 May 2020 #9
If people are so mad, why didn't they vote to keep the Rethug out? LymphocyteLover May 2020 #10
If people are so mad, why didn't they vote to keep the Rethug out? LenaBaby61 May 2020 #12
Wow, depressing. But hopefully it's a very race-specific dynamic. LymphocyteLover May 2020 #16
I basically quit following hill's saga MontanaFarmer May 2020 #11
Yes cutting off ones nose to spite its face, is always a workable plan. Historic NY May 2020 #19
She should never had @#$ed people who worked for her Jose Garcia May 2020 #14
It would be ironic if giving everyone a mail-in ballot The Mouth May 2020 #13
I'll bet Trump will do a 180 on his opinion of mail in ballots now. EllieBC May 2020 #15
There was a lot of negative campaigning early on against Smith....and its ironic... Xolodno May 2020 #18

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
1. Why didn't Democrats vote?
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:09 AM
May 2020

From what I read a few days ago, there was a chance Democrats could have pulled this off this, if they just voted. What happened here?

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
5. What happened here?
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:56 AM
May 2020

Friends living in that district tell me that between Caronavirus stay at home measures and folks who were still mad at Hill, they tell me that the consensus was that many people didn't even bother voting because they feel that Hill didn't bother to fight for her seat (My friends voted for Smith, although still furios at Hill).

To this day these same friends still say that Hill allowed thuglicans to force her out of her seat. These folks are seniors like many of us are. Live on a fixed income/budget. Rangle to keep paying for their meds. In other words, many face hardships. They they took valuable time, and put themselves out there and physically that wasn't easy physically to get others to vote for Hill (One friend is very disabled), so I can definately see where they are coming from.

I was reading about Smith's challenger, and he's nothing but a tRump kiss ass whose against the ACA and thinks that King fat ass is doing a fine job of handing this carona crisis/pandemic. Personally, I wouldn't have punished Smith for Hill's issues, but then again I wasn't the one out there physically aching and working hard for Hill, only to have leave her seat like she did. As I mentioned in my post below, we are seeing tRump real-time MURDERING folks, the party of putin rolling over laws, and remaining quite about all the shit tRump's getting away with. They don't give one fuck about what people think about them/him or about the rule of law. And to think, he'll probably get rewarded thanks MoscowMitch hi-jacking the court and turning it into a 5-4 thuglican court.

I feel a 5-4 split, with his buddies ruling that he won't have to show his income taxes. He's above the law AND the treasonous/law-breaking/murdering King of America 🙄

Historic NY

(37,457 posts)
17. Either they were too lazy to lick the stamp or they didn't care.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:03 PM
May 2020

meanwhile Nebraska had the highest mail in voting ever.

alp227

(32,066 posts)
20. in California, vote by mail envelopes are postage prepaid
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:59 PM
May 2020

business reply envelopes, and anyone can request a mail ballot for any reason.

MFM008

(19,826 posts)
2. Wtff?
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:25 AM
May 2020

Unless they think they will deal with it in November
But that's no way to think.
That givez maggot bragging rights.
He will ride that horse until it drops.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
8. That givez maggot bragging rights.
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:39 AM
May 2020

He also has bragging rights in MURDERING folks, and I really wished Dems knew how to play THAT up too. Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen on a continuous or constant message.

I AM encouraged by the ads that Lincoln Project ad folks who ARE taking it to fatso. I have a Dem friend who actually told me that the ad was too somber and that Dems need to keep their messages positive

I asked her what we as Dems have to be giddy and happy about?

We're looking at a DEPRESSION, unnecessary deaths caused by this hog because he's a fuck up who didn't care about the Caronavirus he was told about last year because he was so busy thinking about his bank account and bowing down to putin. This fat, murderous slob stole an election. What's happening with the death, destruction etc. wouldn't have happened under a FLOTUS Hillary. This wouldn't happen under a POTUS Biden either. Yet, this installed into office, mentally deranged, racist, sexist, evil, lying hog is doing his level BEST, along with the party of putin (formerly GOP) to destroy this country/world as we know it, and all you can do is say Dems need to keep it light and happy with the ads?

What is there to be running a light and happy about? We're fighting for our lives and souls LITERALLY Joan.

My friend actually has to be reminded about how dire times are. Not that she doesn't know but sometimes she uh .. Anyway, she said "Oh God, you're right. I'm SORRY!" Love her to death but good LORD, she's one who suffers from not being able at times to see the forrest for the trees syndrome, because she's really into this always playing fair crap. These are not times in which you can afford to play fair 24/7 since your life is literally depending on you fighting back at some point to save yourself. You have to get in there and fight your ass off with a cheater who has absolutely NO intention of playing fair at all.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
3. "Not looking good considering every voter was mailed a ballot."
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:28 AM
May 2020

Last edited Wed May 13, 2020, 07:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Nope, and friends who live there in that district are pissed off because Hill decided to not keep her seat. I can't say I blame them.

Yes, Hill had the right to leave if she wanted to. However, when you look at the Murderer-in-chief whose literally MURDERED and who continues to MURDER folks (who knows how many people since THIS crookedest of administrations are more than likely under-counting Caronavirus deaths), it causes my blood to boil @ how Dems throw themselves down on their swords while thuglicans fuck up, break laws, literally kill and murder people, then say that "God forgave them" then they go about their business. They did used to lie and at least fake saying that they were sorry. But this bunch in there NOW .... This party of putin (Formerly the GOP) don't even try to fake it any longer. They don't apologize nor care how anything looks any longer. They have the attitude of "Fuck it, I'm above ANY law so kiss my ass libs." Look at that embarrassing and crazy argument Jay Sekulow made in front of the High Court yesterday where he was arguing for immunity for his fat ass client so he can stay above the law.

The sad thing is that he may just get his wish, because this court is more than likely going 5-4 in Murderous fatso's favor thanks to MoscowMithch and the a moral crew on this sham of a court. A friend said she thinks that they give Dems a bit of a ruling. I told her hey look, it's either Dems see his taxes which they have EVERY right to as they are allowed as a body to have oversight vs King tRump, or we won't be seeing SHIT. Like I said, I don't think we'll be seeing SHIT, because this court is hell bent on protecting their treasonous, murderous, telling people to ingest bleach/Lysol to get rid of the Caronavisus asshole King.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
6. "Hill should never have resigned."
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:11 AM
May 2020

I don't live in their district, but I feel my friends anger at Hill still.

We have a current sitting/installed, treasonous, KING whose above the law literally murdering people real-time, and Hill couldn't resign HER seat fast enough because she's said that she wasn't upholding some fucking standards, or something along that line.

Give me a fucking break with that "I'm a Dem falling on my sword" weak sauce shit Yes, she had the right to resign, but if hind-site was 20-20 and as a person who worked my ass off for her like friends did only for her to just give up that seat the way she did, I'd have not even bothered working nor voting for her in the first place, especially since that guy replacing her is a tRump kiss ass whose against 'socialist liberals,' the 'socialist ACA' and who thinks fat ass is doing a great job in handing this Caronavirus/pandemic. Yeah, what better to get rid of it than ingest bleach/Lysol. We're fighting for our lives LITERALLY. tRump is trying to get rid of the ACA during this pandemic, and Dems have to play nice?

I'll be damned if I 'play nice and moral' while somebody (Party of putin/king tRump) tries to kill MY ass.

THAT tRump psychopant's taking Hill's seat, even if it's for a Short time?

still_one

(92,473 posts)
7. THis was a pure right wing operation to take Hill out, on a consensual relationship no less
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:23 AM
May 2020

and we seem to fold each time

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
9. "THis was a pure right wing operation to take Hill out, on a consensual relationship no less."
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:03 AM
May 2020

Oh yeah, party of putin folks were laughing about the fact that it was, and Hill folded like a house of cards. Now, I'm not talking about Anthony Wiener who had to go because he drug his son into the picture and did some texting to young under-aged girls. That's a bridge too far. But as you rightfully said, what Hill was 'guilty' of was something concerning consenting ADULTS. Then for her to go and say that she left because she didn't uphold standards/ sexual indiscretions. I mean really.

We LITERALLY have an insane, racist, murderer who told folks to go ingest bleach/lysol to rid themselves of COVID-19 installed in the White House with putin's help and he, his deplorable supporters, nor 99% of his party of putin folks (Formerly the GOP) give one damn about it. Were facing a Depression and more death and a possible repeal of the ACA in total, Yet HILL threw herself up onto some train tracks and left her seat because she was guilty of sexual indiscretions?

tRump, pence, MoscowMitch and 99% of the party of putin folks (Formerly the GOP) are standing by watching fat ass MURDER folks with the Caronavirus and SHE stepped down like she murdered somebody? Look at fatso's sexual indiscretions. He's a rapist, self-described pussy-grabber. a pedophile, pathological liar, a racist, treasonous, thief and Hill removed herself because of her sexual indiscretions?



Some Dems

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
12. If people are so mad, why didn't they vote to keep the Rethug out?
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:29 AM
May 2020

I agree with you. I would have stayed mad at Hill and voted for Smith.

I will say that fellow senior citizen friends who worked on her campaign living in the 25th who are still disappointed in her voted for her anyway because the guy running against her is a tRump butt kisser and ACA hater. But their friends living in that district told them that they were depressed over the Caronavisus, the death of friends/relatives (a few of their friends lost a family members/friends) on top of Hill "rolling over" like she did one said, and on top of all of those things they listed, quarantine fatigue has set in to the point that they didn't even want to bother voting at all. I ask my friends about the ease of their friends using their mail-in ballots to vote. You only had to mark Smith's name on the ballot I'm told, put into the return envelope and send it back postage paid (It's extremely easy to vote here in Ca.). They all to a person told me that their friends living in that district said why bother since Hill didn't even bother to keep her seat? I think that was the deal-breaker in the end--at least that's the feeling I got from what friends described to me. Them feeling that Hill had no loyalty to fight for them/her seat.

I pray Dems in the 2020 GE come out in droves to VOTE this murdering monster out of office, because if they don't

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
11. I basically quit following hill's saga
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:17 AM
May 2020

once she resigned. Is it possible there were more legs under the affair rumors with the congressional staffer, and she didn't want to go through the ethics investigation that would have ensued? The rest of it, the revenge porn, all of that i agree with, that's a GOP operation that we allow to work way too often and way too easily.

Historic NY

(37,457 posts)
19. Yes cutting off ones nose to spite its face, is always a workable plan.
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:29 PM
May 2020

meanwhile the orange one will be crowing

The Mouth

(3,165 posts)
13. It would be ironic if giving everyone a mail-in ballot
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:29 AM
May 2020

resulted in more Republicans voting that would otherwise, and to a greater degree than Democrats.

EllieBC

(3,043 posts)
15. I'll bet Trump will do a 180 on his opinion of mail in ballots now.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

This is not a good thing if people weren’t mailing them. Wtf were they thinking???

Xolodno

(6,406 posts)
18. There was a lot of negative campaigning early on against Smith....and its ironic...
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:42 PM
May 2020

...because they painted her as not a Democrat (i.e. against teachers, etc.)

Her adds came a bit too late in my opinion and didn't hit hard enough against Garcia. Plus Smith didn't seem as organized as Katie Hill was.

Also, I smell a rat fucking in this one. There will be another election in a few months, can't think that Garcia has enough in funds to fight an entirely new Dem candidate....and I'll just leave that there.

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