Cleveland Indians looking into changing team name
Source: Associated Press via WBNS, Fox TV in Columbus
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Cleveland Indians looking into changing team name
The club said it plans to review a nickname it has had since 1905.
Author: Associated Press
Published: 9:07 PM EDT July 3, 2020
Updated: 9:07 PM EDT July 3, 2020
CLEVELAND The Cleveland Indians are reviewing their contentious nickname.
The team released a statement on Friday night saying it is committed to making a positive impact in our community and embrace our responsibility to advance social justice and equality.
The club said it plans to review a nickname it has had since 1905. {snip}
Read more: https://www.10tv.com/article/sports/cleveland-indians-looking-into-changing-team-name/530-463dd6cd-df7c-4d7c-9aee-9b9b08b8f824
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Botany
(70,483 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,379 posts)Mon Jan 29, 2018: Indians removing Chief Wahoo logo from game uniforms in 2019
harley_weewax
(10 posts)Yes, it has been gone for awhile.
brush
(53,764 posts)I get "Redskin" but "Indian"?
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)Has been very upset about them getting rid of Chief Wahoo, I cant imagine the shit storm they will create over this.
IMO, .... both long overdue to be done away with
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)Rooted for the Cleveland Baseball Club all my life even when I was living in Toledo and Chicago. Cleveland.com used to allow comments after articles which they stopped doing for whatever reason. I was always amazed at the comments claiming the Cleveland Baseball team wouldnt win because Chief Wahoo was removed.
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)but this name change is waaaaaaayyyy overdue. My husband, a native Clevelander and fan, is struggling with the idea, but Im working on him, and hes listening and understanding. There is hope. 😂
Grins
(7,205 posts)...he loves baseball more. And I think he does. When its your team in your city in your ballpark...! Youll adapt.
Its emotional because he grew up with it, and hes a nostalgic kind of guy. He agrees with the reasons to get rid of it. He couldnt wait to get rid of Chief Wahoo. He will adjust.
Danmel
(4,912 posts)For their star Napoleon Lajoie. That probably wouldn't work.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/lajoie-nap&ved=2ahUKEwipzdCHxrPqAhVEhOAKHSqHDoEQFjAWegQIEBAB&usg=AOvVaw1Ec7r2N9XzltjLiE1UrgCC
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)Auggie
(31,156 posts)"Blues" was a shortened version of Bluebirds (which players did not like -- hence the "Blues".)
They could opt for true uniqueness and not have a nickname at all. Who says one is required?
csziggy
(34,135 posts)But "blues" for bluebirds does not match the Cleveland team colors, which are red, black and white. Woodpeckers and red breasted grosbeaks are red, black, and white.
The Cleveland Woodpeckers? That might not work since we all know what the team nickname would be.
How about the Yellow bellied Sapsuckers!
The Northern Flickers has a nice sound, but they are more gray and black with only a bit of red.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)csziggy
(34,135 posts)Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)that I bought years ago at a flea market, its a team photo of players wearing uniforms with Cleveland across the front, and below the picture, it says Spiders 1892. In the background is what must be the old League Park?
Auggie
(31,156 posts)According to wikipedia ...
The property is still a baseball field.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)that the pressure from the people pushing for the name change will collapse.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)catbyte
(34,367 posts)It's not "an honor." It reduces us to cartoon caricatures and mocks our ceremonies, sacred drumming, and dancing. How is the Cleveland logo, et al, any different than blackface? How are they different than Sambo's restaurant or the Frito Bandito? There just aren't enough of us left that have enough political clout to eradicate these racist images. This has been a pet peeve of mine for decades.
didn't know that origin before.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)I remember Jane Fonda doing it when she was married to Ted Turner.
To be fair she quit doing it, although there was no real apology from either her or Ted.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/10/20/Fonda-puts-ax-to-chop/3118687931200/
MINNEAPOLIS -- Actress Jane Fonda, who did a double tomahawk chop during the National League playoffs, says she's through chopping.
'I'm not going to do it any more,' said Fonda, who was with her companion, Atlanta Braves owner Ted Turner, when the Braves lost 5-2 to the Minnesota Twins in Game 1 of the World Series at the Metrodome.
'It was never meant to offend. Ted and I are big supporters of Indians.'
About 200 Native Americans protested outside the Metrodome before the game, voicing their opposition to the use of Indian mascots by all sports teams. They are particularly upset by the tomahawk chop and other antics of Atlanta Braves fans.
A handful of Braves fans did the chop inside the Metrodome. People entering the Dome appeared about evenly divided in their opinion on the issue.
Braves executives and baseball Commissioner Fay Vincent said they won't talk about the matter until after the Series.
Asked by the St. Paul Pioneer Press whether the Braves should change their team name as urged by Indian leaders, Fonda said Saturday: 'Ask Ted, he's the owner.'
Turner didn't answer directly, but said he was unaware until two days ago of the reaction the chop would cause.
'I didn't name the team the Braves,' he said. 'This isn't the only team that's got an Indian name.'
Fonda, a well-known activist who has supported Indian causes in the past, was booed when she was shown on the Metrodome's large video screen. She was the subject of banners carried by the Indian protesters outside. One sign read 'Jane, we're not so Fonda you since your Turneround.' Another called her Jane Armstrong Custer Fonda.
catbyte
(34,367 posts)csziggy
(34,135 posts)I live where the Florida State University Seminoles rule and they do that annoying chop at every game. It does help that I am NOT a football fan and have never attended a FSU game but it dominates the branding for the university.
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)change it. Half measures won't do anymore.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I am a big fan of the Cleveland teams and it is time.
Coventina
(27,093 posts)I noticed a number of my NA students were all wearing Indians branded hats/tshirts.
I was surprised, to be honest, because I consider it offensive, but they were wearing it so much and so often I had to conclude that they were pulling for team. (I live in Arizona).
I completely understand that no population is a monolith, but based on my anecdotal experience, at least there is segment of college-age Native American students who (maybe?) support the team BECAUSE of the name?
MichMan
(11,901 posts)The fans will never let it go. Maybe in a few years they can bring in an expansion team without 115 years of racist baggage
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marble falls
(57,063 posts)obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)Bobcats, Porcupines, Otters, Vultures, Eagles, or Owls.
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)Don't take any chances.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Somebody had to say it. . .
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)NellieStarbuck
(266 posts)Capt. America
(2,477 posts)Blues? Spiders? Commodores?
MichMan
(11,901 posts)The same name as the biggest university in the state of Ohio ?
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)There could be some who believe its appropriation.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)companies smearing their names all over the stadiums.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)And as someone who values their Irish roots Im going to be having a few words with my Notre Dame friends! Ive been sick of that imagery for a while.