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SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:14 PM Jul 2020

White House seeks to discredit Fauci as coronavirus surges

Source: NBC News

The White House is seeking to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's leading infectious disease expert, as President Donald Trump works to marginalize him and his dire warnings about the shortcomings of the U.S. coronavirus response.

In a remarkable broadside by the Trump administration against one of its own, a White House official said Sunday that "several White House officials are concerned about the number of times Dr. Fauci has been wrong on things." The official gave NBC News a list of nearly a dozen past comments by Fauci that the official said had ultimately proven erroneous.

Among them: Fauci's comments in January that the coronavirus was "not a major threat" and his guidance in March that "people should not be walking around with masks."

It was a move more characteristic of a political campaign furtively disseminating opposition research about an opponent than of a White House struggling to contain a pandemic that has killed more than 135,000 people, according to an NBC News tally.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-seeks-discredit-fauci-amid-coronavirus-surge-n1233612

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White House seeks to discredit Fauci as coronavirus surges (Original Post) SouthernCal_Dem Jul 2020 OP
Trump focusing on the REAL issue... pretending dissent is not happening ck4829 Jul 2020 #1
Yeah, that'll help our war against the invisible enemy soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
Idiots Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #3
Yeah, it won't gain him any new supporters. And his base is already energized. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #7
In January, the virus would not have been a major threat IF the president had been rational. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #4
Fauci Should Have Resigned As Soon As Trump Started Dissing Him modrepub Jul 2020 #5
dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #8
This guy got his office raided and all Drumpfs records were seized. How the hell was that accepted? Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #15
To his credit, he stuck around and guided the country Cetacea Jul 2020 #12
no, make them fire him. media would ignore the resignation JI7 Jul 2020 #14
First Trump blamed Democrats and MSM for creating a hoax and fake news. Then he blamed the WHO. Now Doodley Jul 2020 #6
Is anyone on DU truly surprised by this? WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #9
Not surprised at all, not with a psycho like Trump running this Country Bengus81 Jul 2020 #26
The line that infuriated me was louis-t Jul 2020 #10
typical trump - force fauci to say everything is fine - then roast him for being wrong...... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #11
Exactly mdbl Jul 2020 #17
how convinient AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #13
It was indeed foolish, and Fauci later admitted... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #16
lying to general public about pandemic can never be justified AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #18
I was impressed that he admitted it, at least. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #19
Yep. We were told to wash our hands all the time. LisaL Jul 2020 #21
Where Is The Context DallasNE Jul 2020 #20
if you lay down with dogs... mike_c Jul 2020 #22
They want complete chaos by November. C Moon Jul 2020 #23
I don't remember anyone in US saying in January that this virus would be so devasting here usajumpedtheshark Jul 2020 #24
The reason trump has turned on Dr. Fauci now duforsure Jul 2020 #25
Absolutely. Plus Trump wants to distract from CDC report on school. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #28
MSNBC reports 75% trust what Fauci says, only 25% trust Trump. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2020 #27

modrepub

(3,505 posts)
5. Fauci Should Have Resigned As Soon As Trump Started Dissing Him
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:26 PM
Jul 2020

The best statement he could have made was to get the hell out of Dodge at the first sign of smoke. He can't get these folks to listen so the best statement to make would be, "It was an honor and pleasure to serve the American people but I can't continue to work in my position if the President does not have confidence in me."

It would have been a loud and potent statement. I don't think he understands that staying only diminishes his standing. Get out before the whole thing implodes and people feel lesser of you. In reality, he's a smart man, he'll find meaningful work just about anywhere. He can't help us from the inside right now. Sorry but I don't think much of him since he doesn't seem to understand who he's dealing with.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
8. dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jul 2020

We need a competent health expert in the mix somewhere at least. If only to give Trump the face palm on TV. Also of course to squeeze in pertinent information in between Trump's self promotion.

If Fauci resigned he'd be forgotten by the MSM, and instead this guy would be Trump's public heath expert.

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JI7

(89,289 posts)
14. no, make them fire him. media would ignore the resignation
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jul 2020

and move on to the Bill Barr type that Trump replaces him with.

Doodley

(9,176 posts)
6. First Trump blamed Democrats and MSM for creating a hoax and fake news. Then he blamed the WHO. Now
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jul 2020

he blames Fauci. Poor Trump, always the victim.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. Is anyone on DU truly surprised by this?
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jul 2020

I'm surprised it's taken this long and even more surprised that such an esteemed expert like Dr. Fauci hasn't told Trump to stuff it where the sun doesn't shine (only in a much more professional manner of course).

Bengus81

(6,939 posts)
26. Not surprised at all, not with a psycho like Trump running this Country
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jul 2020

Even the dipshits Trumpanzies who raised millions to build their Fuehrer some of his wall got berated by that POS a couple of days ago.

louis-t

(23,315 posts)
10. The line that infuriated me was
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jul 2020

that the White House doesn't think Fauci is working in the president's best interest.

getagrip_already

(14,984 posts)
11. typical trump - force fauci to say everything is fine - then roast him for being wrong......
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jul 2020

What the white house is really saying is that trump was wrong. I fauci was too optimistic, trump was ten times more wrong.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
13. how convinient
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 09:03 PM
Jul 2020

but I will say that most lasting damage was done back then in the month of February and March. Not only CDC said one should not wear masks - it said wearing masks make it more dangerous for you cause you’d be touching face more frequently. Fauci agreed at the time which was beyond dumb to anyone observing from countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, etc. - most successful in fighting this pandemic. For that, I won’t be defending Fauci even if he was right on most other things. It was too fundamental and caused thousands of unnecessary lives to just let it slide.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,860 posts)
16. It was indeed foolish, and Fauci later admitted...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 09:43 PM
Jul 2020

... it was because they feared masks wouldn't be available to healthcare workers if they stated the truth to the general public.

I didn't like it, but I assumed that was the reason after the panic-buying and subsequent shortages of toilet paper and such.

It was NOT because they suddenly learned that asymptomatic people could transmit it. That was already published in China and elsewhere!

After major sellers like Amazon no longer made the better masks available unless buyers could show they were government or healthcare facilities, then Fauci and the CDC suddenly changed their tune about masks to the general public.

Edit: Most of the blame goes to Trump, of course. There's no way that he wasn't told about the concerns of mask shortages. He's just looking for a scapegoat, as usual.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
18. lying to general public about pandemic can never be justified
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jul 2020

we weren’t the only country with ppe shortages

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,860 posts)
19. I was impressed that he admitted it, at least.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

That's something Trump and his cronies would never do.

And I'm sure they could rationalize it by also claiming, which is surely accurate, that masks aren't as helpful as social distancing and isolation... which they were pushing all along.

Edit: The "clue" that I noticed back then (among others here at DU) was how Fauci often mentioned concern about shortages of PPE for frontline workers very soon after he was asked about masks for the general public.

LisaL

(44,985 posts)
21. Yep. We were told to wash our hands all the time.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jul 2020

Turns out that is not even a major mode of transmission. But I guess soap was available, and masks-not so much.
But I knew we were lied to from the start, because covid is a respiratory virus.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
20. Where Is The Context
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jul 2020

You can't just take a partial statement and fault it. You have to provide the context. I know the statement on masks was at a time when there was a dire shortage and what masks were available were needed desperately by the health care workers so the last thing we needed was a run on face masks. The January statement came before America had suffered its first death from the disease. Frankly, it is irresponsible to run with these charges without providing the context. Considering that these charges are coming from someone who recommended ingesting Clorox to kill the virus I know who I wouldn't be listening to.

C Moon

(12,227 posts)
23. They want complete chaos by November.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 01:52 AM
Jul 2020

Orange County (California), a longstanding Republican area popular for its beaches and Disneyland, is stating they are going to reopen schools this fall without any mask requirements.

usajumpedtheshark

(672 posts)
24. I don't remember anyone in US saying in January that this virus would be so devasting here
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:56 AM
Jul 2020

or that our government would be so monumently useless. He explained why he said what he did about masks. There is no way that I would believe anything tRump or his imbeciles say when we know all the do is lie. tRump is just following Faux News and can't stand anyone contradicting him even if it means lives may be saved.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
25. The reason trump has turned on Dr. Fauci now
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 04:38 AM
Jul 2020

He refuses to help trump spread propaganda, and instead tells the truth about how badly the situation really is. trump wants everything to be about him and how great he's doing ,and has done , which Dr. Fauci knows is BS, and won't help him . So now trump is demonizing the best expert we have on virus and pandemics, which is going nowhere, and making trump again look like the fool. trump lies so much , and has intentionally put out misinformation on this virus knowing it was false. The virus is kicking trumps ass, and no spin will make him look good no matter who he tries to blame this time.

27. MSNBC reports 75% trust what Fauci says, only 25% trust Trump.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

Which one do you think is pushing for early opening to help his re-election? Which one is trying to get the pandemic under control? And whose ego is being damaged?

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