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brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 05:38 PM Aug 2020

N.Y.P.D. Besieges Black Lives Matter Leader as He Broadcasts Live

Source: New York Times

Derrick Ingram, a Black Lives Matter organizer, was besieged inside his Manhattan apartment on Friday while a police helicopter patrolled overhead, officers banged on his door and police dogs growled in the hallway.

The street outside had been closed off by roughly two dozen police vehicles and dozens of officers, including some who were wearing riot gear. At the end of the block, Black Lives Matter supporters had gathered with bullhorns and cameras to protest what appeared to be Mr. Ingram’s imminent arrest.

“What did I do? What did I do?” he said on a livestream posted on Instagram. “I was born Black, that’s what I did.”

The tense standoff in the Hell’s Kitchen neighborhood continued for several hours as Mr. Ingram, 28, talked to lawyers via Zoom and communicated with the outside world over the Instagram video. He declined to let the officers enter his apartment without a warrant.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/nyregion/nypd-derrick-ingram-protester.html?smid=tw-share

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N.Y.P.D. Besieges Black Lives Matter Leader as He Broadcasts Live (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
And the charges are what? zentrum Aug 2020 #1
They should all be fired and sued! ananda Aug 2020 #2
Heaven forbid a black person has a voice and people are listening. Dem2theMax Aug 2020 #3
from the article: sdfernando Aug 2020 #4
Don't they have something more meaningful to do? Karadeniz Aug 2020 #5
Police stirring up shit. Keeping their fingers crossed for a Trump re-election. oasis Aug 2020 #6
police serving an arrest warrant don't need a warrant to enter an apt...... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #7
Something the death of Breyonna Taylor certainly taught us rocktivity Aug 2020 #8
That's not accurate... DAngelo136 Aug 2020 #13
Exactly. Calista241 Aug 2020 #15
She? Polybius Aug 2020 #18
Stay safe Derrick bluestarone Aug 2020 #9
Whats' the deal with these mayors.... paleotn Aug 2020 #10
The NYPD is a law unto itself... regnaD kciN Aug 2020 #14
Interesting...in one of the most liberal cities in America. paleotn Aug 2020 #16
Start Treating these as fake cops. PurgedVoter Aug 2020 #11
4th Amendment protects him against illegal search and seizure. Very smart of him to do Zoom call iluvtennis Aug 2020 #12
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 #17
Meanwhile, at the New York Post rocktivity Aug 2020 #19

Dem2theMax

(9,595 posts)
3. Heaven forbid a black person has a voice and people are listening.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

I don't know which emotion to feel first.
There are way too many rolling around in my head right now.

sdfernando

(4,897 posts)
4. from the article:
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

"A police spokeswoman said the officers were there to arrest Mr. Ingram for an assault on an officer. She did not offer details about the assault and said the investigation was continuing."

I'm sure they were hoping the assault would happen once they gained entry into the apartment and arrested Mr. Ingram...Perhaps they would have put him in an illegal choke hold, or put a knee to his neck.

I'm so glad he is OK and the PIGs (yes, this is what these particular officers are, and I have a brother that is retired COP) left. I HATE THESE KINDS OF COPS!

getagrip_already

(14,250 posts)
7. police serving an arrest warrant don't need a warrant to enter an apt......
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:59 PM
Aug 2020

They can break in and make the arrest.

Clearly, they didn't have a warrant to arrest.

They may have wanted to interview him, but they didn't have grounds to arrest him. yet.

Now they will claim he is interfering with an investigation by not answering questions.

He is a dead man walking unless someone official intervenes.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
8. Something the death of Breyonna Taylor certainly taught us
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:08 PM
Aug 2020

And given the nature of the charge, why would they have given up and "withdrawn"?

Sounds like the warrant was issued "retroactively," like Mitt Romney's retirement from Bain Capital.


rocktivity

DAngelo136

(264 posts)
13. That's not accurate...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:13 PM
Aug 2020

Police can break in with a SEARCH warrant. An arrest warrant just directs them to arrest the person on sight. As long as he doesn't step outside of his home, they can't break in unless there are "exigent circumstances".

Calista241

(5,584 posts)
15. Exactly.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:48 AM
Aug 2020

An arrest warrant is not the same as a search warrant. She’s going to be arrested as soon as she leaves her residence, and the cops can apply for a search warrant if they decide to go in and get her.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
10. Whats' the deal with these mayors....
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:13 PM
Aug 2020

Where the hell is de Balsio? Maybe it's different in NYC. In the southern city I grew up in, the buck stopped in the mayor's office. And I've seen mayors of my old home town chew police chiefs a new A hole.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
14. The NYPD is a law unto itself...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:53 PM
Aug 2020

...and any mayor who crosses it is usually the ex-mayor after the next election.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
16. Interesting...in one of the most liberal cities in America.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:39 AM
Aug 2020

It's like Gangs of New York have taken a turn to the surreal. The cops are now the lawless gang.

PurgedVoter

(2,191 posts)
11. Start Treating these as fake cops.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:27 PM
Aug 2020

Find out who is authorizing this. If it isn't authorized then these are kidnappers. Racist bastards should not be able to hide behind their badges. It makes real police look bad.

iluvtennis

(19,758 posts)
12. 4th Amendment protects him against illegal search and seizure. Very smart of him to do Zoom call
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:32 PM
Aug 2020

with lawyer and live broadcast on Instagram.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
19. Meanwhile, at the New York Post
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:24 PM
Aug 2020
Police unions slam NYPD retreat in standoff at home of cop-assault suspect
City police unions slammed the Police Department for retreating from an hours-long standoff at the home of a Black Lives Matter organizer accused of assaulting a cop.

“The NYPD’s top brass better start talking: Who really issued the order to retreat?” asked PBA President Pat Lynch in a statement. “Who put police officers in the dangerous position of backing down in the face of an angry mob?”

The Detectives’ Endowment Association joined in rebuking the department’s decision, demanding an explanation. “By walking away from arresting a man who was wanted for previously assaulting a cop and backing down to an angry mob, the lives of detectives and their fellow cops were endangered and their valuable time was wasted,” said Paul DiGiacomo, the association’s president.


They're damned right that an explanation is needed -- if they neither search or arrest warrants, they had no business being there. At least the cops who ended up killing Breyonna Taylor were acting on the "good faith" of a no-knock search warrant, however incorrectly issues. Those kind of information/communication breakdowns on the front end are what's poisoning community relations and endangering everyone's lives!

UPDATE: Protester in Midtown standoff with NYPD turns himself in


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