Kyrsten Sinema Dooms Democrats' Voting Rights Push
Source: HuffPost
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) took to the Senate floor on Thursday to tell her fellow Democrats that she would not support changing the chamber's filibuster rules in order to pass voting rights legislation.
"There is no need for me to restate my position," Sinema said, as she explained she opposed changing filibuster rules that require a 60-vote supermajority to pass most laws as it would deepen the "spiraling division" in the country.
"Demands to eliminate [the 60-vote filibuster] threshold from whichever party holds the fleeting majority amount to a group of people separated on two sides of a canyon, shouting that solution to their colleagues," Sinema said. "And that makes the rift with wider and deeper."
The dramatic speech came as President Joe Biden headed to the Senate to speak with members of the Democratic caucus about the urgency of changing the filibuster rules in order to pass a voting rights bill by a simple majority vote. The speech diminishes hopes Democrats have of enacting legislation to combat the wave of voter suppression bills passed by Republicans on the inspiration of ex-President Donald Trump's election fraud lies in the states they control.
Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kyrsten-sinema-filibuster-voting-rights_n_61e04f20e4b09724bb9836a5
Its interesting that she doesn't care if she is the lone vote to destroy the greatest democracy on Earth as Manchin seems to be backing Biden on this one but for how long who knows.
onecaliberal
(33,203 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)but fascists keep people from voting
JT45242
(2,374 posts)We live in a Bizarro world when a Cheney is acting more like a Democrat than a Dem Senator.... This is the inevitable result of the Citizens United and legalized bribery rulings of the Federalist Society judges.
We have the 'democracy' that we can afford. If you can buy the right votes, you can block everything that you don't like and push through the couple of things (tax breaks for the rich) that you want.
Plutocracy at work.
New Zealand looks better and better every day.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,907 posts)to avoid speaking to Arizonans that want to question her, then has them arrested for harassment!
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,321 posts).
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Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)He says it's probably to a small group of Libertarian business people who don't want to pay taxes that will fund programs for the less fortunate.
I'm quoting him pretty much verbatim. He did use the word "probably."
In Mary Trump's most recent podcast, she joked that we could just outbid whoever is buying off Manchin and Sinema.
dalton99a
(82,056 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,321 posts)onecaliberal
(33,203 posts)Are they going to switch then? Maybe that is their play. Seems more plausible daily. Especially in light of the fact theyre both meeting with McConnell lately.
myohmy2
(3,295 posts)...she's worried the curtains need washing while the house is on fire...
...typical...
JohnSJ
(92,661 posts)still required 51 votes, and I don't think that will change the votes from Sinema and Manchin
We are getting sabotaged from all sides. By the republicans, the news media, and by two Senators within the Democratic party
It is no surprise why President Biden's approval numbers are low.
Nikki28
(558 posts)this has been my thinking and fear all along. The two senators are really Republicans. Their skin color seems to be on entitlement ,so they are working with their real party the Q party because it won't effect them because they can just change parties and was probably was promised some things behind the scenes. They are barely with the Dems when they are walking or running to their cars. They are mostly with Republicans. There is also pictures of Joe and Trump smiling together out there in social media somewhere because I have seen it.They are not dens. I feel our country is already lost because if we lose the house next year, is bad enough and scary,but the senate too.We are in danger.Bill Mahar was right about leaving the country because he can see what is coming.They have gaslighted half the country and lies like running water.I have lost all hope and nothing I see is making me feel any better.
onecaliberal
(33,203 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,984 posts)Wonder if we should be 'concerned' just a little bit NOW?
Asking for a friend.
DownriverDem
(6,264 posts)is wrong with her?
MOMFUDSKI
(6,022 posts)many of the 'powerful' people in the US are FOR an autocracy as they feel they will be more powerful than they are now. It will be the upper echelon that will rule and they want to be in that circle. Someone said Sinema better realize that there won't BE a Senate but that seems to be OK with this ruling crowd. Tell me I am crazy.
C Moon
(12,242 posts)Response to yaesu (Original post)
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GB_RN
(2,514 posts)That she is quoted as saying "Demands to eliminate [the 60-vote filibuster] threshold..." (emphasis added), and not "Demands to change the filibuster..."
Manchin says he is or could be in favor of changing the filibuster to make it so that the minority work for it (like make it a talking filibuster). Sinema did NOT say that she opposes that at all (in fact, she never even mentioned this possibility), she just explicitly said that she opposes ELIMINATING the filibuster.
I'm not defending her, but this could be a head fake to make the Repukes think that she's going to do them a big favor. Then again, she could just screw Team Blue completely...
hadEnuf
(2,282 posts)Because she's about as popular with Democrats as Trump is at this point.
GB_RN
(2,514 posts)But, I'm not gonna hold my breath when it comes to her. She's way too unpredictable.🤷?♂️
yaesu
(8,020 posts)NPR: Mitch McTurtle told reporters he was pleased with Sinema's remarks."She literally saved the Senate as an institution," McConnell said. "It was an act of conspicuous political courage."
The Mouth
(3,185 posts)by having someone actually speaking, and bringing all other business to a close.
from Slate-
"During the 2019-2020 Congressional term, a record-breaking 328 filibusters were recorded with Democrats in the minority.
Since 2009, 657 filibusters were recorded under Democratic minorities while 609 filibusters were recorded under Republican minorities.
Research by Slate on filibusters between 1991 and 2008 found that Democrats successfully filibustered 63 times while Republicans successfully filibustered 89 times."
hadEnuf
(2,282 posts)in the country because Democrats will simply not be at any side of the "Grand Canyon". They will probably not even be able get elected, but if they somehow do, they will have their victories overturned by MAGAT dominated election boards.
Sinema fucking knows this. She is nothing more than a stealth GOP infiltrator in the Democratic Party.
Harker
(14,193 posts)Infamy awaits her.
Maybe...but it won't matter!
LudwigPastorius
(9,406 posts)it's going to enable the Republicans to win the House and Senate, and that puts us right about 1932 in the Nazi rise-to-power timeline.
Sinema and Manchin are going to fuck this country into oblivion.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)live love laugh
(13,325 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)effort between the both of them who knows.
AngryOldDem
(14,065 posts)Two people holding a party and the country hostage. They arenust as much of a problem as the Trumpian GOP.
Sick of this shit.
CrispyQ
(36,695 posts)When she's voted out, she'll write a book, "How to Become a Millionaire in Six Years." That's basically all she's in congress for is to enrich herself. Fucking sellout. ~insert flip-the-bird emoji here
LiberalLovinLug
(14,201 posts)I never hear about any counter insurgency plans. Storming the doors of her largest donors. Exposing them. Put whatever pressure can be put on her. Disown her publicly, and write editorials against her.
Start to promote her replacement already.
On the carrot side, Democratic leadership should approach the companies that would benefit from the BBB bill, and make promises about what they'd get, or lose. Voting rights bill, run ads across the State on how important they are.
And there is probably some behind the curtain actions could be taken against her, or threats to do so. Nothing should be off the table at this point. She has to go down. Disappear off the political map.
Maybe some of this is already happening. But I sure don't hear about anything. She just prances around and only gives careful crafted interviews with softball questions. Enough already!
AngryOldDem
(14,065 posts)Shes all for voting rights. But one day, the Democrats will be in power, and theyll need the filibuster.
This is about as galling and insulting as Manchin insisting hes representing the good folks of West Virginia.
Efilroft Sul
(3,600 posts)Because she and Manchin are going to blow up the foundation of our government and the Biden presidency as collateral damage.
kansasobama
(613 posts)Do not expect GOP Supreme Court to protect it.
By the way, Arizona will not be happy.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/elviadiaz/2022/01/13/sen-kyrsten-sinema-cant-have-both-ways-voting-rights/6515740001/
kansasobama
(613 posts)Paladin
(28,351 posts)I hope their lives consist of non-stop misery, from now on. Probably won't happen---Senate Democrats will do what they always do: be good sports, accept yet another profound defeat with class and style, and see just how friendly they can be with the two traitors. We bring so much of this upon ourselves...
EndlessWire
(6,655 posts)These people can't think. They don't understand. We are not just fighting to remain in power, we are fighting to keep the fricking country. Wonder how she likes getting praised by Turtle Man?
The fascist Trump Party is busy rigging the vote by suppression, and she is assisting. She is aiding the Trump Party to take over the country in an undemocratic way, and we will all be in trouble if the Repubs get their hands on the House and Senate. She has to be getting payola from somewhere, because she sure doesn't care about the country.
Slammer
(714 posts)Anyone remember the good old days when Senators and Representatives could be credibly threatened with being removed from their committee assignments, having party money withheld from them during the next election, being primaried, having staff money stripped from them, and having earmark money denied to their district/state?
Hell, at this point, just bring back earmarks and use that to get Republican votes for critical legislation rather than letting a couple of Democrats obstruct the rest of the party.
...what does this mean?
...3 years of nothing ahead?
...typical...
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)It was a decent run. But Kryyyyyyyyyyyysten wants to make sure her buddies like Cornhole and Rand Paul can cheat freely.
vercetti2021
(10,165 posts)From this point on