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70sEraVet

(3,552 posts)
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:19 AM Dec 2023

Republicans to meet allies of Hungary's Viktor Orbn on ending Ukraine aid

Source: The Guardian

Allies of Hungary’s far-right prime minister Viktor Orbán will hold a closed-door meeting with Republicans in Washington to push for an end to US military support for Ukraine, the Guardian has learned.

Márton Ugrósdy, the deputy state secretary for the prime minister’s political director’s office, and Attila Demkó, a leading pro-Orbán academic, along with members of the Hungarian embassy in Washington, will on Monday begin a two-day event hosted by the conservative Heritage Foundation thinktank.
Allies of Hungary’s far-right prime minister Viktor Orbán will hold a closed-door meeting with Republicans in Washington to push for an end to US military support for Ukraine, the Guardian has learned.

A diplomatic source close to the Hungarian embassy said: “Orbán is confident that the Ukraine aid will not pass in Congress. That is why he is trying to block assistance from the EU as well.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/10/hungary-viktor-orban-republicans-ukraine-aid



So, the Heritage Foundation, which has been choosing most of our Supreme Court justices, is now assisting Putin in his ambitions?
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Republicans to meet allies of Hungary's Viktor Orbn on ending Ukraine aid (Original Post) 70sEraVet Dec 2023 OP
This clearly shows the sick "Hitler" underbelly of the Repug party SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #1
..thought it was the Federalist outfit. thomski64 Dec 2023 #3
Correct. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2023 #17
I think gqp shows they are made of hitler top to bottom, side to side Marthe48 Dec 2023 #47
Find the names liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2023 #2
We can pretty well guess which names, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #5
Exactly...that MoFo Johnson is holding things up..it is temporary. But oh it's infuriating PortTack Dec 2023 #12
That's MoFo Moses Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2023 #51
That's freedumb --- " Carcass" ! noclue023 Dec 2023 #34
Yes, I screwed that up. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #35
Everything you said... bahboo Dec 2023 #24
Putin whores dalton99a Dec 2023 #4
Ain't gonna work........................... Lovie777 Dec 2023 #6
So when will a US MSM outlet report on this? gab13by13 Dec 2023 #7
Truth! bronxiteforever Dec 2023 #16
Yesterday it was said HERE, that Orban himself was coming to this (?) Captain Zero Dec 2023 #46
Ending Ukraine aid is overt support of Russia. These are traitors. Wingus Dingus Dec 2023 #8
No US aid for Orban jpak Dec 2023 #9
Agreed and, as suggested up thread, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #11
Ban Orban from the US. No visa. Captain Zero Dec 2023 #29
This is terrible. yardwork Dec 2023 #10
Heritage Foundation is looking un-American KS Toronado Dec 2023 #13
republican party of Putin ! noclue023 Dec 2023 #36
More and more all the time, and welcome to DU! KS Toronado Dec 2023 #39
Thank ya' & republicans have worn there welcome out in this country ! noclue023 Dec 2023 #40
This is how it all begins. nevergiveup Dec 2023 #14
Wow! peggysue2 Dec 2023 #15
All Putin lackeys! Mysterian Dec 2023 #18
First and foremost fuck these traitors and fuck them for supporting a strongman turbinetree Dec 2023 #19
That project never got off the ground Bayard Dec 2023 #25
Thank you forgot... turbinetree Dec 2023 #49
Need the ol' Joe McCarthy Commission to track down of communist? noclue023 Dec 2023 #37
Republicans can't tell right from wrong, so they ask a fascist what to do? Qutzupalotl Dec 2023 #20
These Americans support Vlad's evil empire bronxiteforever Dec 2023 #21
Hungary has twice the poverty rate of US and an inflation rate of 14.6%. Midnight Writer Dec 2023 #22
They have absolutely no honor. Not one single cell. How utterly embarrassing this should be to this country. Biophilic Dec 2023 #23
Paranoid Putin probably prefers politicians he personally picked phor personal parleys Attilatheblond Dec 2023 #26
Your alliteration caught my eye, but then i noticed... IcyPeas Dec 2023 #32
Nick name given to me by a dear pal Attilatheblond Dec 2023 #42
That meeting in the US needs a huge protest Captain Zero Dec 2023 #27
Orban should be denied a visa to the US Captain Zero Dec 2023 #28
He should bdamomma Dec 2023 #41
I thought only the President could represent America slightlv Dec 2023 #44
They started doing this when Obama was president Unwind Your Mind Dec 2023 #48
Protest at the Hungarian Embassy!! Captain Zero Dec 2023 #30
I wish we could know EndlessWire Dec 2023 #31
Seems shortsighted of Orban Griefbird Dec 2023 #33
Leading story on CNN, right? orangecrush Dec 2023 #38
Eyeing the potential $$$ they can reap if Ukraine falls allowing Russia to build pipelines thru to Hungary? cstanleytech Dec 2023 #43
Russia if you're listening Playingmantis Dec 2023 #45
Republicans, the American putin team with cheerleader trump on his knees. republianmushroom Dec 2023 #50

thomski64

(459 posts)
3. ..thought it was the Federalist outfit.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:40 AM
Dec 2023

..that dictated to Moscow Mitch which fascist judges to put forward...

Marthe48

(17,145 posts)
47. I think gqp shows they are made of hitler top to bottom, side to side
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 10:47 AM
Dec 2023

from the inside out and the outside in

Why, oh why, can we not rid the country of these traitors?

2. Find the names
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:39 AM
Dec 2023

Find out which Republicans are meeting with the fascists and then check their bank accounts for Russian deposits. A more appropriate punishment can’t be posted here.

Oh, and boot Hungary out of the EU and NATO.

Sal_NV

(603 posts)
5. We can pretty well guess which names,
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:44 AM
Dec 2023

MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, Jordan, Comer, and the rest of the so called Freedumb Caucus.

Luckily, for the most part, the majority of the House and Senate are still in favor of sending aid to Ukraine to fight the Russians illegal invasion.

Lovie777

(12,424 posts)
6. Ain't gonna work...........................
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:46 AM
Dec 2023

Orban is no friend to NATO...................

Also Orban's allies strongly supported DeSatan and sent adviser for his presidential desires.

Captain Zero

(6,869 posts)
46. Yesterday it was said HERE, that Orban himself was coming to this (?)
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 10:13 AM
Dec 2023

Did he drop his plans?
Or was it never part of the plan for him to attend.?

 

noclue023

(66 posts)
40. Thank ya' & republicans have worn there welcome out in this country !
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 06:39 PM
Dec 2023

Retired now & never jack'd with politics. It's a sorry state of affair's now with the republican the low intelligence scale they bring into their party !

peggysue2

(10,854 posts)
15. Wow!
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 12:43 PM
Dec 2023

The Putin fans on the right are letting it all hang out. No shame at all.

Orban is Putin's parrot. Back in the day, any whiff of this would have ended careers, made pols and organizations pariahs.

But now?

Dictators Are Us.

'These bastards need to be destroyed at the polls!

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
19. First and foremost fuck these traitors and fuck them for supporting a strongman
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:08 PM
Dec 2023

I just wonder if Moscow Mitch is also supporting this shit sandwich because after all remember one Oleg Deripaska investing over 200 million dollars into the state of Kentucky, and are they using taxpayer dollars ......well by golly they are somewhere and somehow ........ ........and we really have to place this shit show on the US Supreme Court for this shit because after all the Heritage Traitors Foundation is buying off these people........ because after all "money is free speech"...... right, John Roberts of the US Supreme Court......

I hope people read the book:

Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present
by Ruth Ben-Ghiat (Author)

it really exposes assholes like Orban, Putin, Trump and others and what happens when these tinpot dictators gain power....every last one of them use the same Mussolini tactic and fascists shit....

Bayard

(22,247 posts)
25. That project never got off the ground
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:54 PM
Dec 2023

Former KY Gov. Bevin was driving some of it.

"Matt Bevin assembled an unconventional deal to invest $15 million in Braidy Industries, Kentucky's state government finally has recouped that investment after the company failed to build a promised, multibillion-dollar aluminum rolling mill near Ashland."

And:

Braidy Industries (tied to Oleg Deripaska, and now Unity Aluminum), also held Veloxint, an MIT incubated technology company, and NanoAL, a Northwestern University incubated technology company. The assets of Braidy Industries were sold to Steel Dynamics in 2022, which announced the mill will be built in Mississippi.

KY got the 15M the state had invested back. Gov. Beshear said the company has agreed to donate the 200+ acre site back to Northeast Kentucky Regional Industrial Authority. (Dem governor cleaning up another rethuglican mess.)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-oligarch-tied-kentuckys-braidy-185331300.html (originally printed in the Courier-Journal)

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/kentucky-recovers-15m-failed-braidy-industries-aluminum-project/69527769007/

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/kentucky-recoups-15-million-investment-in-failed-braidy-industries-aluminum-mill/article_9a7bf9a6-4029-11ed-853f-4bdd3d23ffd4.html


bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
21. These Americans support Vlad's evil empire
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:22 PM
Dec 2023

Reagan's March 8, 1983 speech to the National Association of Evangelicals in Orlando, Florida, is his first recorded use of the phrase "evil empire." Reagan said:

let us be aware that while they preach the supremacy of the State, declare its omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the earth, they are the focus of evil in the modern world .... I urge you to beware the temptation of pride—the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire…


I look at the far right Orban and Putin and see them as willing to put man into a prison where their existence is solely valued in light of what that human body can provide for the state. They don’t stand for free elections (the founding principle of this country was representation via election “no taxation without representation”). They also support and thrive on economic cronyism (the antithesis of the free market). This is the virus Orban and Putin want to spread to the US. It’s outcome will be terminal to American freedom and American prosperity. It must be defeated.

Midnight Writer

(21,877 posts)
22. Hungary has twice the poverty rate of US and an inflation rate of 14.6%.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:22 PM
Dec 2023

Foreign investment in the country is negative 8%. Investors are actively withdrawing.

What is it about Orban that makes conservatives so excited?

Simple.

He is a "strongman" trying to become a total dictator.

They love that.

Biophilic

(3,740 posts)
23. They have absolutely no honor. Not one single cell. How utterly embarrassing this should be to this country.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:51 PM
Dec 2023

Attilatheblond

(2,279 posts)
26. Paranoid Putin probably prefers politicians he personally picked phor personal parleys
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 02:50 PM
Dec 2023

so the US GOP traitors have to accept appointments with stand-ins of lesser power. Probably points to punier paydays.

IcyPeas

(21,957 posts)
32. Your alliteration caught my eye, but then i noticed...
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 04:37 PM
Dec 2023

your name "Atillatheblonde". What a coincidence.

...prime minister’s political director’s office, and Attila Demkó, a leading pro-Orbán academic, along with members of the Hungarian embassy in Washington, ....


Not everyday you see the name Atilla.

Attilatheblond

(2,279 posts)
42. Nick name given to me by a dear pal
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 07:23 PM
Dec 2023

We did a lot of volunteer peer support group facilitating work together and I told him that continually calling me the Blond Bombshell was gonna get me put on some watchlist and if he didn't stop it I was gonna hurt him. Thus, I became Attila.

Re alliteration, I love word games. Thanks for noticing.

bdamomma

(63,975 posts)
41. He should
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 06:53 PM
Dec 2023

not be allowed to step foot in the country. They are shameless with this "in your face" tactic. This is not good, alarms should be waking up people. A surveillance tape would be warranted, those meeting with this surrogate are accomplices to undermine our democracy.

slightlv

(2,876 posts)
44. I thought only the President could represent America
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 08:17 PM
Dec 2023

with foreign sovereigns? The R's are still acting as though we have two governments in this country -- theirs and others. They do so much damage to our real-world reputation in pulling stunts like this. I do wish our Press would try to emulate the reporters of yesteryear... people like Cronkite and Brinkley. Those who actually delved into the story and brought you not only the facts, but the backstory, as well. We've lost so much over the last 50-60 years. (sigh)

Unwind Your Mind

(2,043 posts)
48. They started doing this when Obama was president
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 11:55 AM
Dec 2023

I’m struggling to remember exactly who it was that Rs invited to the House without going through proper channels. I know we were pissed about it. Maybe it was Netanyahu? Help someone?

Captain Zero

(6,869 posts)
30. Protest at the Hungarian Embassy!!
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 04:08 PM
Dec 2023

Tomorrow!

Biden should order it closed down too. If they like dictators so much Biden should send them home!!

EndlessWire

(6,580 posts)
31. I wish we could know
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 04:23 PM
Dec 2023

who attends the closed door meeting. What is their plan of action? So, a foreign autocrat's reps come to town to arrange a take down of Ukraine's foreign aid. Well, we should have expected more of the same when Orban came to town to address that convention, and was praised by Trump.

We need to get a package for Ukraine together asap. I know they are getting something, but a strong showing of support would go a long way.

I think Germany is stepping up until we resolve these issues. Meanwhile, it sure is something to see the Repubs consort with reps from Orban. I guess they couldn't outright meet with Russians, so a middleman country would have to do. I think they are all traitors, willing to sell us out.

And now they are compromised. I'm sure names are taken. And pics.

This is similar to when Trump met with those Russians behind closed doors in the WH.

Griefbird

(96 posts)
33. Seems shortsighted of Orban
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 05:17 PM
Dec 2023

Hungary has a border with Ukraine. What's to stop Russia from annexing Hungary if it has taken over Ukraine?

cstanleytech

(26,364 posts)
43. Eyeing the potential $$$ they can reap if Ukraine falls allowing Russia to build pipelines thru to Hungary?
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 07:37 PM
Dec 2023
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