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apnu

(8,764 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:03 PM Jan 2024

Trump Shares False Claim that Nikki Haley is Ineligible for President

Source: Meidas Touch

On Truth Social, Trump reposted an attack on Nikki Haley from far right website The Gateway Pundit questioning Nikki Haley's eligibility to become president based on citizenship. Trump's post was merely a screenshot of a tweet promoting the article. The tweet claimed:

"In Nikki Haley's situation, reports indicate that her parents were not U.S. Citizens at the time of her birth in 1972. Based on the Consitution as interpreted by Paul Ingrassia, this disqualifies Haley from the presidential or vice-presidential candidacy under the 12th Amendment."

The AP fact checked this claim circulating from MAGA accounts ahead of the Iowa caucus. Law professor Geoffrey Stone of the University of Chicago points out that Haley, “having been born in South Carolina ...is clearly a ‘natural born citizen,’ without regard to the fact that her parents were immigrants.”




Read more: https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-shares-false-claim-that-nikki-haley-is-ineligible-for-president



Trump is back to birtherism. Nikki must have him scared.
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Trump Shares False Claim that Nikki Haley is Ineligible for President (Original Post) apnu Jan 2024 OP
snork. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #1
Hehas to attack... 2naSalit Jan 2024 #2
I doubt Haley has Trump 'scared.' He doesn't want to just win rurallib Jan 2024 #3
Such an openly racist idiot pandering to racist idiots IronLionZion Jan 2024 #4
Well that's actually wrong TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #11
I think he means that that's how our Republican friends see it peppertree Jan 2024 #19
I was being sarcastic because GOP racists want to disqualify anyone who is non-white IronLionZion Jan 2024 #30
Sorry, completely misread your post TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #32
Sure enough - a few Trump voters I know are already referring to her as an "anchor baby." peppertree Jan 2024 #18
4 of Trump's 5 (acknowledged) offspring are Anchor Babies born to foreing mothers Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #24
Trump's own mother was not a US citizen when he was born IronLionZion Jan 2024 #29
You're spot on!! - this is all couched in racism and white supremacy. n/t iluvtennis Jan 2024 #44
Paul Ingrassia was a journalist, not a lawyer, cloudbase Jan 2024 #5
This is his son, who graduated from law school in 2022. His journalist father died several years ago. onenote Jan 2024 #10
Thanks for bringing me up to speed on this. cloudbase Jan 2024 #14
I'm no legal scholar. I'm just an old lawyer. Nevertheless, I can read the clear constitutional text. TomSlick Jan 2024 #27
MAGA types will pull out the old "Grandfather Clause" when they can IronLionZion Jan 2024 #34
There is no "grandfather clause" in the Constitution. TomSlick Jan 2024 #37
Plenty in southern state constitutions known as "Jim Crow" laws IronLionZion Jan 2024 #40
He can say whatever he wants to say about her. I really don't care. Autumn Jan 2024 #6
I agree PJMcK Jan 2024 #21
That's my thinking. They can do whatever they want to each other, I'll sit back and enjoy the show. Autumn Jan 2024 #23
Let them eat each other - I'll do what I can to help them. Probatim Jan 2024 #7
Dreamer! Dreamer! no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #8
For the first time in my life, I agree with the Orange Anal Wart. They're ALL ineligible! n/t BamaRefugee Jan 2024 #9
President Obama's birth certificate...right? PortTack Jan 2024 #12
ANY DAY NOW! The investigators are just finishing things up. Probably 2 weeks. BamaRefugee Jan 2024 #46
This is good news. Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #13
Trumpler is perpetually in 'scorched earth' mode. Harker Jan 2024 #15
He actually likely is ineligible but hell would freeze over before she says so ColinC Jan 2024 #16
No doubt Trump's private investigators have turned up evidence Haley was born in India. sop Jan 2024 #17
They're still working on that SCantiGOP Jan 2024 #22
Trump made a false claim? Ohh, stop! Not once has he made a false claim. Wonder Why Jan 2024 #20
And if he's the nominee, she'll still vote for him. Permanut Jan 2024 #25
If Christie was out, I think she'd beat him in NH oldsoftie Jan 2024 #26
pure racism Skittles Jan 2024 #28
Trumps mother Rebl2 Jan 2024 #31
Wasn't TFG's Mother born in Scotland and his Grandfather in Germany? kimbutgar Jan 2024 #33
Yeah, that's right. But a Nazi fascist doesn't consider them "outsiders" or "immigrants." Martin68 Jan 2024 #36
This is great, because he did the same thing to Obama. At least he's consistent. Consistently fascist. Martin68 Jan 2024 #35
How about that she was a fashion major? When i went Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #38
just a racist. it's fine. everything is fine *sarcasm* n/t imavoter Jan 2024 #39
Of course! hay rick Jan 2024 #41
Ahhhh! The constant Republican "January surprise." Note: Paul Ingrassia died in 2019 Grins Jan 2024 #42
All this proves... jmowreader Jan 2024 #43
TFG's grandfather was a pimp who was denied entry when he tried to return to Germany ... marble falls Jan 2024 #45
he did this with Ted Cruz too. prodigitalson Jan 2024 #47
Haley is a U.S. citizen by birth because she is an anchor baby. Aristus Jan 2024 #48

rurallib

(62,498 posts)
3. I doubt Haley has Trump 'scared.' He doesn't want to just win
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jan 2024

he wants to totally, utterly destroy any opponents. He wants them crushed and their lives totally destroyed so their names never mentioned in public again.

that is an aspect of Trump that few ever speak about. His objective is to totally ruin whatever or whoever he sees as his opponent.

IronLionZion

(45,689 posts)
4. Such an openly racist idiot pandering to racist idiots
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:16 PM
Jan 2024

Only the dumbest MAGAts believe there's an unwritten whites only clause in the US Constitution. Even DeSantis claimed 14th amendment doesn't apply to anyone after the civil war ended when former slaves became US citizens.

Sometimes misguided DUers repeat this sort of nonsense, especially during recessions. But we're in labor shortage now.

This has nothing to do with where a person is born or their parents' citizenship at the time of birth. It's about white supremacy.

TexasDem69

(1,910 posts)
11. Well that's actually wrong
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jan 2024

Haley is clearly eligible because she was born in South Carolina. Someone born outside the U.S. to non-U.S. parents is not eligible. Not sure why you call it a “whites only” clause cause it isn’t that.

peppertree

(21,764 posts)
19. I think he means that that's how our Republican friends see it
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:28 PM
Jan 2024

That said - they're nothing if not ironic.

They want Thor for a president - but might instead get a Depends-wearing Jabba-the Hutt.

IronLionZion

(45,689 posts)
30. I was being sarcastic because GOP racists want to disqualify anyone who is non-white
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:01 PM
Jan 2024

even if a person is born in the USA to a US citizen mom, they can have a fake birth certificate if half black like Barack Obama. Hawaii is an overseas territory of the Republic of Kenya for these racists.

I was born in the USA to 2 US citizen parents yet I become "foreign" during every American recession including COVID. The US constitution doesn't have a whites only clause, it's just made up in the minds of white supremacists who want to disqualify the competition on the basis of race.

peppertree

(21,764 posts)
18. Sure enough - a few Trump voters I know are already referring to her as an "anchor baby."
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:25 PM
Jan 2024

And I suspect that line of attack is probably working among most Republicans.

Attilatheblond

(2,285 posts)
24. 4 of Trump's 5 (acknowledged) offspring are Anchor Babies born to foreing mothers
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jan 2024

And there is some question re Trump's mom's trip to Scotland the year he was born. He seems mighty defensive about the whole natural born citizen thing. Can't help but look at that thru the lens of his projection tendencies.

IronLionZion

(45,689 posts)
29. Trump's own mother was not a US citizen when he was born
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jan 2024

something that Ted Cruz enjoyed throwing back at him

cloudbase

(5,532 posts)
5. Paul Ingrassia was a journalist, not a lawyer,
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jan 2024

so his interpretation means about as much as my talking about astrophysics. That said, unlike Paul, I'm still very much on the green side of the grass.

onenote

(42,901 posts)
10. This is his son, who graduated from law school in 2022. His journalist father died several years ago.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:36 PM
Jan 2024

And "legal scholar" is not a description usually given to someone 18 months out of school.

TomSlick

(11,165 posts)
27. I'm no legal scholar. I'm just an old lawyer. Nevertheless, I can read the clear constitutional text.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 09:20 PM
Jan 2024

Any person born in the US is a US citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment. Any person who is a citizen at birth, i.e., not a naturalized citizen, meets the requirement of being a "natural born" citizen.

That may be not be what the MAGAt crowd thinks the law ought to be but absent a constitutional amendment, the language is clear.

IronLionZion

(45,689 posts)
34. MAGA types will pull out the old "Grandfather Clause" when they can
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:45 PM
Jan 2024

as in a person is only qualified if their grandfather was qualified. I've hear this one way too many times in my own career since both my parents are US citizens.

TomSlick

(11,165 posts)
37. There is no "grandfather clause" in the Constitution.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:51 PM
Jan 2024

That is what in my day the Army called MUS - Made Up Shit.

IronLionZion

(45,689 posts)
40. Plenty in southern state constitutions known as "Jim Crow" laws
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 12:48 AM
Jan 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

Trump's whole presidency, both campaigns, his businesses, and his whole life is built on MUS. MAGA loves to make up stuff that benefits their view of the world, also known as "alternative facts".

PJMcK

(22,092 posts)
21. I agree
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:45 PM
Jan 2024

Still, it’s fun to watch Republicans fight amongst themselves.

Happy new year, Autumn.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
23. That's my thinking. They can do whatever they want to each other, I'll sit back and enjoy the show.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jan 2024

Happy new year to you.

Probatim

(2,559 posts)
7. Let them eat each other - I'll do what I can to help them.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jan 2024

They spend enough time trying to divide us, returning the favor is the polite thing to do.

Harker

(14,144 posts)
15. Trumpler is perpetually in 'scorched earth' mode.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:09 PM
Jan 2024

Let's cut straight to the bunker scene, please.

sop

(10,335 posts)
17. No doubt Trump's private investigators have turned up evidence Haley was born in India.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:24 PM
Jan 2024

It's the same crack team of private dicks he sent to Hawaii to dig up dirt on Obama.

SCantiGOP

(13,879 posts)
22. They're still working on that
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:45 PM
Jan 2024

As soon as they prove Obama was illegally elected, they are going to go after the killer of O J Simpson’s wife.

Wonder Why

(3,380 posts)
20. Trump made a false claim? Ohh, stop! Not once has he made a false claim.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jan 2024

10,000 times maybe but not once.

oldsoftie

(12,688 posts)
26. If Christie was out, I think she'd beat him in NH
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jan 2024

But there's a lot more cultists down south & out West

Rebl2

(13,635 posts)
31. Trumps mother
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:06 PM
Jan 2024

wasn’t born in this country so wouldn’t that make him ineligible to be president by his standards?🙄

kimbutgar

(21,308 posts)
33. Wasn't TFG's Mother born in Scotland and his Grandfather in Germany?
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:21 PM
Jan 2024

MMM… I’m more of an American than he is! Both my great grandparents were born here, so theoretically I’m more American than he is!

Martin68

(23,017 posts)
35. This is great, because he did the same thing to Obama. At least he's consistent. Consistently fascist.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:00 PM
Jan 2024
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. How about that she was a fashion major? When i went
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 12:32 AM
Jan 2024

to college, fashion majors were the dumbest of dumb.

jmowreader

(50,609 posts)
43. All this proves...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 07:08 AM
Jan 2024

...is Trump's criteria for picking advisors is still "does this person tell me what I want to hear?"

The whole "natural born citizen" (which she is, sorry Paul) thing ISN'T EVEN IN THE 12th AMENDMENT! It's in Article II, Section 1 of the main body of the Constitution.

Article II, Section 1 also says about presidential pay, that the president shall take "no other emolument from the United States." I interpret that to mean "you are not allowed to rent golf carts to the Secret Service." I'm not sure what the punishment for taking other emoluments from the United States while serving as president should be, but being pilloried for a week with frequent sessions of the bastinado - oh, and disqualification for public office because that goes without saying - sounds right.

marble falls

(57,740 posts)
45. TFG's grandfather was a pimp who was denied entry when he tried to return to Germany ...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 08:54 AM
Jan 2024

... his father attended Nazi rallies in the US and was sanctioned for racial discrimination because of who he'd rent or not rent his apartments to. Haley may be problematic as a candidate because of her politics (I think she is), but compared to Donny the loser who is ineligible because his high crimes and misdemeanors, she's certainly a better choice than Mango Jebus.

prodigitalson

(2,482 posts)
47. he did this with Ted Cruz too.
Sun Jan 14, 2024, 12:50 PM
Jan 2024

except in that can he was born abroad but had at least one american parent...tfg was wrong then as well

Aristus

(66,549 posts)
48. Haley is a U.S. citizen by birth because she is an anchor baby.
Sun Jan 14, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jan 2024

I thought the Republicans hated anchor babies...

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