and evangelists who claim to be so Christian.

... but it was a pretty dumb thing to say. From someone who just keeps saying dumb things.

They are white supremacists calling on deporting a US citizen. Are you seriously justifying that?

In that case let’s deport trump. He takes the gambit on dumb things said.

there wouldn't be many left. Probably no GOPers at all.

Omar (my rep) is an American citizen; she can't be deported. She can be primaried, though, which is about to happen. She says a lot of dumb, unnecessarily controversial things, and I'd like to be represented by someone who doesn't do that.

“Deport her” is an extreme white supremacist talking point.

Saying Somalian first was a dumb thing. She could have worded this differently. She can advocate for the interests of Somalia without saying "Somalian first". It makes it sound like the reason she is in congress is to protect the interests of Somalia. Sometimes those interests are not consistent with what is best for the US.

I'm not familiar with the Somalialand issue. Don't know even know what the US role in the issue is. I don't blame her for advocating for this issue, even if it goes against what the US is doing. The US keeps supporting Azerbaijan and us Armenians keep complaining.

However, I certainly won't vote for Kennedy because that is who the ANCA is endorsing..LOL The ANCA supports Armenian issues over pragmatic. Of course Armenian issues are important to me, but they aren't that important.

And with regards to foreign affairs there is often disagreement in Congress anyway. Doesn't make anyone more or less patriotic. (Unless someone files a completely ridiculous bill, that makes Putin or the Ayatollah an equal ally or something real weird like that. I guess if she filed a bill in support of pirates and Houthis, it would really rattle everyone, but she hasn't done this)


She is only once voice out of 535, so she doesn't have much sway.

Of course, deporting her is a stupid idea. Or even saying it they want to deport is stupid

She is a US citizen

BTW: Naturalized citizens can be deported. It's very rare, but it can be done.

https://www.findlaw.com/immigration/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20for%20naturalized,born%20U.S.%20citizen%20(U.S.C).

She will be the first democrat and US citizen to be deported or detained. But she will not be the last.

Trump could have tried that if he wanted way back in 2019.

We're a nation of laws. You can't deport someone (revoke citizenship) via an executive order.


Most cases of revocation have occurred in the court system in conjunction with criminal trials and is usually in the punishment phase of a criminal trial. Usually these trials involving drug cartels and/or terrorism. We rarely hear about these revocations because the crimes are usually pretty heinous.


Omar hasn't broken any laws.
She's just getting on people's nerves.

She has been made a scapegoat by the right. It doesn’t matter if she is breaking laws. She will be one of the first elected prominent US reps to be deported once these fanatics fully take control. Again, she won’t be the last. Giving any credibility to statements like the one above is only adding fuel to that possibility.

We may be a nation of laws but there is nothing keeping any of us here safe if he is reinstalled to the Whitehouse. Don’t count on it!!

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

She has a LOT of sway.

We, as democrats, and as Americans, need a better voice in that seat.

We don't need deportation bullshit.

It was a dumb thing to say, and calls to deport her are even dumber.

And that’s exactly what calls to deport a US citizen and one of the first Muslims elected to congress, is.

No argument there.

... I'd have no problems voting for Ilhan Omar whatsoever if I were in her district.

🤔

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

Can't leave home without it.

As a Congresswoman and AT BEST! this was an incredibly stupid remark. He first loyalty should to be the United States and her constituents., not Somalia.
PERIOD. I understand her love of her mother country and her religion, but that is a personal concern. She has a higher duty as a Congresswoman, to the United States.

Where even is the USA? Number three… four… where?

I don’t dislike her, but she needs some of her fellow Democrats remind her of her Duty.

and I will vote for one of them. She's my rep and she's been a consistent disappointment - not the least because of her tendency to say things that are both dumb and unnecessarily controversial. But she's a citizen, and she is not subject to deportation for any reason.,

I said she needs to be smarter. Yes the voters will decide, of course.

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

Context is everything.

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

she might have said American first, Muslim second? And maybe the rwnj would get a clue and realize it is American first, Christianity second.

I don't see a lot wrong with Rep. Omar reminding that specific audience of her roots. I grew up hearing the adult neighbors reminding people of their roots, mainly in Europe. I know now that it wasn't just that we lived in an all white neighborhood, but at the time, few Black Americans knew what country their ancestors had come from. When I grew up, we America's population was called a melting pot. With a resurgence of national pride, some pundits prefer the term salad bowl. I think the country was more cohesive as a fondue than as crudites.

she often seems to forget that the Somali community in her district aren't her only constituents. Certainly they have particular needs and concerns that need to be addressed, but this district is pretty diverse and includes a lot of other people who also have needs and concerns. She's not very good at her job.

You are well-informed of your reps. I've only seen/heard a couple of her interviews on MSNBC, just to see what I think. Around Cleveland, Oh, where I grew up, there were German, Slovakian, Serbian, Russian and so many other associations that were based on culture or country of origin. The members celebrated their roots, and I was thinking if Rep. Omar was at a gathering like that, it wouldn't be out of line to say something like that. But Dems are held to a higher standard. A rwnj can say things similar, even on the House floor and get a pass.

I wouldn't like it if Rep. Omar said something like this on the House floor.

She is my rep. as well. Such a statement is concerning to be sure, but since I also have hit roadblocks when I have tried to get her assistance with my SSDI situation. Very not helpful. Sure, it is more than likely that this is her staff. But, as the captain is responsible for the conduct of his/her crew...

celebration includes politicians bragging about how Irish they are. Deport all of them.

I can get behind that.

... but they love it more than they love the USA for some odd reason.

It's like a food fight with them throwing stuff everywhere to see who and what gets hit.

But deportation? Nope.

If she wants to advocate for her home country as an American citizen, she is entitled to. If what is best for America is truly NOT a priority for her, she should resign from the US Congress.

I am assuming she was actually doing something quite common by politicians running for re-election that is called pandering. She was telling a group of voters what they want to hear to energize them to vote for her. She went too far, in my opinion. She needs to answer for what she said.

I hate pandering and being pandered to.

When we moved to our current house I received two ads from the same candidate...one ad targeting seniors saying property taxes were too high, schools were wasting valuable money on upgrades...the other ad was targeting young families saying how access to a great education is what made our community strong and increased property values and they would continue to fight for strong education! I just shook my head and voted for someone else.

Both parties do this and I hate it!

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

If there is audio, native speakers should be able to translate in English pretty darn close to what she said.

I would not be surprised if the true translation is somewhere in the middle. More like - as a Somali and Muslim, I will fight for Somalia and Muslim concerns while in Congress. And then discussions went from there. Does it mean she doesn't care about American interests, nah...but did she dissuade her audience from believing that as a Somali and Muslim she will put their interests above other constituents? Probably not.

Not treasonous, put unfortunately in today's political climate, she will be forced to explain what she actually meant. Is that fair? No. But best to get it out of the way.

No more stupid than the christofascists who say their reason for being in Congress is to write Jesus into the law and force us all to follow biblical principles concerning sex, gender, sex, abortion, sex, race, sex, etc. Oh, did I mention sex?

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

I think their translations are probably correct.

Which seems to be the case...

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

Than Brian Mast (R) who is also a reservist in the IDF, and showed up to a vote in his IDF uniform?

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

Indeed, the term “Somalian” is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term “Somali.”

A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.

During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: “Somalis are people who love each other. It’s possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.”

In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are “disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.”

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/

"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.”

Maybe she did.

What does maybe even mean here? Her comments were a direct translation by accredited journalists.

Maybe there are semantic subtleties. Maybe supporters and detractors are grasping for advantage.

But these issues sure do follow her.

From your Minnesota Reformer link (the quotation is Minnesota Reformer's translation of Representative Omar's remarks):