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BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 05:31 AM Jan 31

House committee advances Mayorkas impeachment articles, teeing up historic floor vote

Last edited Wed Jan 31, 2024, 04:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CBS News

Updated on: January 31, 2024 / 10:24 AM EST


Washington — The House Homeland Security Committee voted to advance articles of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas early Wednesday, teeing up a floor vote that could make Mayorkas the first Cabinet secretary to be impeached in nearly 150 years.

After a 15-plus-hour meeting that at times grew contentious, the GOP-led committee voted 18-15 along party lines to advance two impeachment articles to the House floor, where Republicans hold a slim majority. Debate and votes on the articles are expected next week.

House Republicans on Sunday released the impeachment articles against President Biden's top immigration official, accusing him of "willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law" and "breach of public trust" over the administration's handling of the migrant crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.

GOP Rep. Mark Green of Tennessee, the committee's chairman, said the panel had "exhausted all other options" to hold Mayorkas accountable for defying laws passed by Congress. "We cannot allow this man to remain in office any longer," he said. "The time for accountability is now." House Democrats characterized the impeachment effort as a "sham" and said the articles lack evidence of high crimes or misdemeanors — the constitutional basis for impeachment.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mayorkas-impeachment-articles-house-homeland-security-vote/



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Updated on: January 31, 2024 / 1:24 AM EST


Washington — The House Homeland Security Committee voted to advance articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas on Tuesday, teeing up a floor vote that could make Mayorkas the first Cabinet secretary to be impeached in nearly 150 years.

After a 15-plus-hour meeting that at times grew contentious, the GOP-led committee voted 18-15 along party lines to advance two impeachment articles to the House floor, where Republicans hold a slim majority. Debate and votes on the the articles are expected next week.

House Republicans on Sunday released the impeachment articles against President Biden's top immigration official, accusing him of "willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law" and "breach of public trust" over the administration's handling of the migrant crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.

GOP Rep. Mark Green of Tennessee, the committee's chairman, said the panel had "exhausted all other options" to hold Mayorkas accountable for defying laws passed by Congress. "We cannot allow this man to remain in office any longer," he said. "The time for accountability is now." House Democrats characterized the impeachment effort as a "sham" and said the articles lack evidence of high crimes or misdemeanors — the constitutional basis for impeachment.
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House committee advances Mayorkas impeachment articles, teeing up historic floor vote (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 31 OP
House Repubs should watch their asses. no_hypocrisy Jan 31 #1
Yea, couldn't the Dems make a big deal about how the rethugs are refusing the money Maraya1969 Jan 31 #18
Yes, impeach the guy DemMedic Jan 31 #2
If impeached by the House GOP, Mayorkas will likely be acquitted of the charges in the Senate trial. sop Jan 31 #3
I saw some news sites that indicated the Senate actually has an option to ignore it BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #4
Thank you for mentioning this, and the link! AnrothElf Jan 31 #10
This possibility was all new to me BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #11
It's sounds to me like it would take the will of the Senate. AnrothElf Jan 31 #15
The hope is BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #17
This is the way. AnrothElf Jan 31 #20
Wouldn't it be better Mr.Bill Jan 31 #13
The issue when it comes to a "House impeachment" and a "Senate trial" BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #14
But we could do like McConnel with the Trump impeachment trial Mr.Bill Jan 31 #16
With the GOP now having 3 vacancies and Scalise out sick, meaning only 218 "votes" BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #19
Of course that would be the best outcome. Mr.Bill Jan 31 #21
You already have some Senate GOPers balking at it BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #22
Important things yankee87 Jan 31 #5
Defense Secretary? Papaw Buck Jan 31 #6
They were asleep at that time of morning when the vote finally happened BumRushDaShow Jan 31 #7
The GOP beclowns itself once again. LudwigPastorius Jan 31 #8
The rancid Rethuglican party has got NOTHING ELSE to run on. Fuck 'em; fuck 'em all. OMGWTF Jan 31 #9
Such total BS. Pure theatre. Evolve Dammit Jan 31 #12

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
1. House Repubs should watch their asses.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 07:17 AM
Jan 31

Once their articles of impeachment go to the floor, all their shenanigans (hindering immigration and border reforms) will be revealed publicly. There goes the November re-elections for many of them.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
18. Yea, couldn't the Dems make a big deal about how the rethugs are refusing the money
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 09:01 PM
Jan 31

being offered to them by the President for the border? They are trying to impeach this guy for not protecting the border and yet when they get all this money to fix the border they say, "NO"

I bet some of our smart senators could make this into a big deal that makes it to the news.

sop

(10,177 posts)
3. If impeached by the House GOP, Mayorkas will likely be acquitted of the charges in the Senate trial.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 03:50 PM
Jan 31

A two-thirds Senate majority would be needed to convict and remove him from office

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
4. I saw some news sites that indicated the Senate actually has an option to ignore it
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 04:18 PM
Jan 31

And just found this that offered that argument due to how the provision is written in the Consitituion - vesting the "sole power" of impeachment and "sole power" to try an impeachment, to the House and Senate respectively (with no specifics for if/when/how they would do this, leaving it up to each chamber) - https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/can-senate-decline-try-impeachment-case

AnrothElf

(568 posts)
10. Thank you for mentioning this, and the link!
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 07:28 PM
Jan 31

Considering how ignorant so many congresscritters are of the constitution, it seems wise to spread this idea of getting the Senate to ignore the House impeachment (should it pass) as far and wide as we can.

I'll help in my circles.

Maybe make your comment an OP and flesh it out a bit more? I'd recc that with ALL my sockpuppets (just kidding! I don't have any!)

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
11. This possibility was all new to me
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 07:47 PM
Jan 31

so I definitely haven't had time to delve into the arguments and counter-arguments enough to even consider doing an OP. But it brings up interesting points. Most of the impeachments to date have been judges, and they tend to "quietly" happen behind the scenes of the media. But the Presidential ones obviously get attention as is this Department head one given that it would be almost unprecedented, with reports, IIRC, that only one other time has something like that occurred. But we know that the GOP does things "for show" and doesn't care if it makes any legal sense to do it.

AnrothElf

(568 posts)
15. It's sounds to me like it would take the will of the Senate.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jan 31

There's a couple rotten apples in the Dem senate, and a handful of conservative Dems (I refuse to call them "moderates"... the Overton Window is too far to the right, already).

But maybe... I boosted the Lawfare article without comment on Mastodon and already a couple favs, so...

If Senate Dem leaders have the will, they could whip support to quash this impeachment... maybe.

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
17. The hope is
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 08:59 PM
Jan 31

a few swing-state GOP members to vote against it along with all Democrats to kill it in the House. Tthe GOP is down to only 219 members (and at the moment 218 with Scalise out) who are left to vote at the moment due to vacancies (and "out sick", since they have no "proxy voting" Rule).

Having 432/431 available divided 2 + 1 means (D)s just need 3 or 4 (R)s to vote "no" to reach what would be a majority of 216/217. Any other non-voters or "present" voters could affect the tally as well.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
13. Wouldn't it be better
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 08:31 PM
Jan 31

if we force them to vote to remove him, then hang that around their necks in an election year? It will go on record as a purely partisan vote.

If the Democrats choose to ignore it, then they will say we were afraid to bring it to a vote.

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
14. The issue when it comes to a "House impeachment" and a "Senate trial"
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jan 31

is that ALL business (including other hearings, general Committee meetings, and Committee legislative markups, etc), CEASES, and they have to direct full attention to those extraordinary processes.

Meanwhile the department appropriations bills have STILL not been completed yet.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
16. But we could do like McConnel with the Trump impeachment trial
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 08:48 PM
Jan 31

and not allow testimony from any witnesses. IIRC, that one didn't take very long.

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
19. With the GOP now having 3 vacancies and Scalise out sick, meaning only 218 "votes"
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jan 31

if just a handful of GOP swing-state members vote "no", it will deep-six the whole thing, and it'll never get to the Senate.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
21. Of course that would be the best outcome.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 09:26 PM
Jan 31

No argument there. I was just speaking about what to do if it did get to the Senate.

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
22. You already have some Senate GOPers balking at it
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 09:43 PM
Jan 31

and I expect a number of them also pissed off at Johnson "DOAing" the work they are doing with the border bill. So all kinds of interesting things might or might now happen.

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
5. Important things
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 04:18 PM
Jan 31

God forbid these morons work on police reform, immigration reform, and any of the myriad problems that always need to be updated.

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
7. They were asleep at that time of morning when the vote finally happened
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 04:40 PM
Jan 31

They did finally update it 9 hours later (added the update as I was not home when they did the update).

LudwigPastorius

(9,145 posts)
8. The GOP beclowns itself once again.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 05:17 PM
Jan 31

Gallup has the current House approval rating at 15%.

...and THIS is what they think is going to turn things around for them.

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