We fought while killing people in their own country and extracted huge damage upon ourselves.

His family must be devastated.

1st LP cover

Wow.

By the woman who's been in contact with his family
https://x.com/taliaotg/status/1761956302543016071?s=20

otherwise it's excruciating pain

It didn't stop the Vietnam War, it didn't free Tibet, and it didn't make life better for Tunisian fruit vendors.

Didn't change anything, right? Mother Theresa too. What idiots.

Unless the act itself is meant to express something like, I dunno, moral outrage and a refusal to accept the status quo?

They didn't achieve world peace, hence whatever they did was pointless. Right? That was the implication I was referring to. Not sorry if you have a problem with that.

Maybe this man was disturbed as some have suggested. Maybe he was a Buddhist pursuing what he perceived to be the only morally acceptable course of action.

He organized strikes, peaceful resistance. He also had support. Although he appeared as a "coolie", (to the embarrassment of Nehru and other members of All India Congress Committee), he wasn't alone. He had mainstream support. He also gained support of Indian's peasants.

Even without Gandhi, the odds are that the British would have left India. The All India Congress was often in negotiations with the British. The relationship between the British and India was much different than the relationship between Israel and Palestinians.

I noticed you also called him a pedophile and another stuff...So what was the purpose of that? Yeah, yeah, it was India and he married when he was 14 and his wife was 13. He was rumored to have been with teen girls and was obsessed with celibacy and temptation, but that was irrelevant to what he did. Of course he was a misogynist. He was born in 1869. He was from a culture of arranged marriages. He wasn't out to create any "sexual liberation movement or feminist movement". His purpose anti-colonialism. My grandfather and great grandfather were also the same way. They were a product of their times, culture and arranged marriages. Many Palestinian men have more than one wife. Some have three or four. So, I'm pretty sure they're misogynists too. Marriages are also arranged in Gaza.

He didn't set himself on fire.

And yes, self immolation has never been as effective a tool as doing the long, hard work of cultural change.

Gandhi is a tangent. Mother Theresa is a tangent. I mentioned them in passing and instead of addressing the subject of self-immolation the response I received chose to address the relative merits of Mother Theresa's contribution on this mortal coil. I personally DGIAF about either of them within the context of this thread. I suspect they were imperfect people struggling to do some good in the world. I have zero interest in debating whether or not they were good people.

They're both cultural reference points, people that Westerners tend to associate with pacifism and service.

Whatever, it's irrelevant. The West has declined to the point that we're incapable of even considering the possibility that a person might actually act in accordance with their beliefs.

He slept in the same bed naked with his nude grand-nieces when they were 18/19 to test himself. That's just nuts.

That said, it would certainly be illegal under our laws. I can't say if it was under Indian law.

I really don't know the story. It seems muddled. Who knows what the age of consent in British India was back then? It was British, but they allowed very young child marriage, so who knows? I'm sure the Brits had morality police/vice units but would they really want to arrest him when they allowed alot of other stuff?

I don't think it would be illegal here either since they weren't minors.

Did I miss that?

This is getting repetitive.

Doesn't appear to have been active in protest groups.
Worked in cyber-security for the USAF.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13126695/Airforce-Aaron-Bushnell-setting-fire-DC-Israeli-Embassy.html

Just tragic. It's insane how some folks will throw away their life for nothing.

Better than shooting up a bunch of kids first.

None

Died today. A wasted life

A soldier who advocated for a free Palestine decided to protest his government's participation in what he viewed is a genocide in a most dramatic and lethal way.

But that's not legitimate protest. He just had mental illness.

Was stationed in DC in 1968, (Old Guard).
We had the 6 o'clock DC news on and they showed the guy who immolated himself on the Pentagon steps.
My brother started shaking and left the room.
He was fresh home from Nam.
I guess he had seen more than his share of people burned alive.
(He was combat infantry.)