What it looks like to this non-legal citizen.

trial or no trial...he's pretty much under performing in every the primary...yes, he got 60% in Michigan but Michigan has about 8.2 million Republican registered voters and yet only 1.1 million Republicans voted in the primary..that's not good..there's a reason 3/4 of the registered voters stayed home...

Of course that isn't the way that we choose presidents. The electoral college is another matter, he might have a chance there. And, of course, the Republicans are planning to get the election tossed to the House. If it goes to either the House or the supreme court it seems likely that he will have the votes.

going to lose so they did their damnedest to "fix" the election in Trump's favor...Trump was bloviating to his rally morons the only way he could lose is if the election was rigged...Barr was throwing shade on mail-in ballots, and DeJoy was slowing the mail, trashing mailer sorters, and removing mailboxes..and then there was Giuliani, Bannon, and Stone "advising" Trump to declare victory on election night before the votes were counted...all of that happened and Biden still won...

fast forward 2024...Trump's MAGA base is stagnant...Republicans in the swing states are sitting out the primaries, Trump is under criminal indictment, he's an adjudicated rapist/guilty of tax fraud and he's financially fucked.. his rallies are sparse, he's spewing Nazi/racist vomit and the MSM is no longer his fawning bitch, parsing his verbal dreck..now he's "unhinged/deranged, underperforming"..when FOX is fact- checking Trump's bilge in real time that's not a good sign..

You can google it, it’s really easy to read and understand.

Also, it won’t be the current house that counts the votes, it will be the newly elected congress, which with every passing day, the dem majority grows.

is great but the current Republican party is committed to winning at all costs. Far too often those who are prepared to cheat actually win.

imho they took this to twist it into knots leaving little holes for him to slither through.
I wish I cold be optimistic but am not feeling that way. I see how they go against what is overwhelmingly what the country wants. They do not care. And if they have people willing to shoot us or lock us up or whatever, game over. That is how it is done in some other countries.
They want this at any cost.

We have Mitch to thank for this shit too!

He is very wealthy. His wife Elaine Chao is the heiress of a shipping magnate. She has hundreds of millions.

I get-cha!

Humiliates itself once again.

Not that I'm really surprised but damn...

Open your eyes people, this has never been about immunity, it has always been about delay.

Jack Smith asked the Supreme Court to take the appeal right after the district court gave its decision. The Supreme Court denied Smith's appeal to take the immunity case, but sent it back to the Appeals Court. Then the Supreme Court decides, well maybe, it will take the appeal after all.

Jack Smith's J6 trial is dead in the water.

Time Mattered.

now they approve TSF's request - some crazy shit.

Roberts…what a fool. All about wanting to save the reputation of the court all the while calling for more shovels and diggers. I swear, they and the gqp must hold weekly seminars on how to shoot yourself in the foot.

PITIFUL!

That fact will become ever more obvious as the horserace to November thunders along. While Trump should be long since settled into his cell, crayon in hand, writing his memoirs, he'll, instead, be clinging to and confuscating* every news cycle he can peddle. He'll lose the election but since the Republicans control committee leadership and speakership in the house they'll be openly conspiring with the USSC to whittle away at western democracy. Because that's what the reliable opposition does, right?

* a vocalized madness designed to confuse and obfuscate simultaneously. Some call it lying, others call it simply "Trump", while still others, most really, sense with great certainty that it's a 21st century variant of the timeless social disease and mortal sin of the democratized, MAGA: free speech of fools.

under wraps. Smith leaks every last word using the press. This is a battle for democracy and we must fight as dirty as necessary. There are no laws left. Think Ellsworth

The MAGAt majority is not going to allow Trump to go to trial before November.

1) The Bill Barr defense "You can't charge a sitting President with a crime.

2) I have immunity because I was President and anything I did as President is covered by
my claim of immunity even stuff I did after
I left the White House. See stolen documents.




THE COURT IS GOING TO LET TRUMP RUN
OUT THE CLOCK.

Court packing and paying off Supreme Court Justices works in stopping our democracy.

Thomas, Robert's, Alito, Goursch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Island should never have been on
the Supreme Court in the 1st place.

tank for Chump.

Not a surprise.

or just the January 6 trial?

You can be sure that TSF’s “defense” includes motion to dismiss… in every trial he faces.
Whether the eventual ruling on this case applies to other cases, well that remains to be seen.

(which were based on activities BEFORE he was sworn in)

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the document case is about criminal retention of top secret documents..that happened after he left office..

Cannon to deal with on that one.

so let's see what happens...also we're assuming the the asshole 5 on the SC will do Trump a solid...if they do they render themselves obsolete..

Yes, it's fucking ridiculous - he stole the documents after he was no longer president. But since he's claimed immunity, this case will also hinge on the Supremely Corrupt Court of the United States.

We have principles and take the high road and they do the opposite. Then right wing media brainwashes their minions to believe that we are the bad guys.

The SCOTUS should have been expanded.

Garland should have hit the road at the first hint of him wavering at what needed to be done.

We are playing by rules that simply don't exist for the right wing anymore and here is the result.

I've stated several times here that SCOTUS would pull something like this, and was bullied, shouted down and made to feel pretty unwelcome for stating such... to the point that I pretty much quit posting about anything and almost didn't re-up my "membership" when it came due.

So, here's a big, "told ya so," to all those who hounded me.

The way to tell what a republican will do, in any situation, is to look at the action that will most help him, her, or another republican regardless of whether it is against precedent, law or common sense. This SCOTUS will find a way to declare his actions immune, but only for him, and they will twist all reality and logic and legality to do so. Guarantee!

It makes him look guilty.

In the end, We the People have to protect ourselves.

what used to be crazy talk is now starting to become what is needed.

maybe they can start trumps trial the day after and supreme court decision. let the lawyers know tha the trial starts july 1st . period. and if the court rules earlier than start the trial earlier. its not as if they havent had time to prepare.

and if the court grants TFG immunity then biden is free to take extreme action against both the conservative members of the court and TFG himself. lock them up in gitmo. after all a sitting president has immunity

The Gore vs ruling was written with the claim it wasn't precedent. I fear they will try and do that here.

When IN FACT they were working on the best way to FUCK us ALL.

Was settled in less than a week.

This corrupt, bought-and-sold, court is helping Trump run out the clock. It's grotesque.

just said that the Constitution does not matter.

We have a Supreme Court trying to delay a criminal trial so that voters will not have the benefit of learning whether someone they might vote for is a convicted criminal. Their acceptance of this appeal is inexcusable. They had very little credibility, but even that is gone now. The Republicans hacks on the Court should be happy that they’ve given Trump the delays that he wants.

Smith was pretty clear in what he told the Court: "The immunity case presents “a fundamental question at the heart of our democracy” and that it is one that “only this Court can definitively resolve.”

in fact I feel sorry for him because he must be just sick to his stomach.

With the DC court finally ruling, and many here saying it took so long because they wanted to make it bulletproof, all the SC needed to do was affirm their ruling. Instead they are now allowing Trump the delay he wanted, with the likelihood that no trial will start before the election since the SC may not release its decision until the end of the current term in June. Scheduling a trial, and I think I read 88 days for preparation, selecting a jury, and holding the trial takes months, not a few weeks. And we do not know how the DOJ would view starting a trial a few weeks before an election.

AFTER the DC Circuit ruled. The one thing he didn’t do is what many are complaining that the the court didn’t do — he didn’t suggest they treat Trump’s application for stay as a cert petition and deny. Instead he told the court they should treat it as a cert petition and grant it. I don’t blame him because it always was all but inevitable that on a case as significant as this that the court would decide to hear it.

HELL NO! THIS is 100% on this SC! Don't try to blame Smith. I'm tired of, well Smith asked for this bullshit! THIS SC is 100% allowing TFG delays for one purpose, no trial before election. Talk about fingers on the scale of justice.

I wish he had gotten what he asked for but I doubt he is surprised at the result. I’m not bashing him. I am questioning those who ignore the fact that smith’s options were limited by the near inevitability of the court taking a case of this significance

SCOTUS has jumped headlong into the political arena. They are still trying to save Trump from judgment.

There is no way they are considering this (obviously they are). If they think presidents are immune from prosecution, I hope Biden takes full advantage of this and exterminates this pest for once and for all.

If that's the case POTUS has immunity for rest of his life & he can do whatever without impunity then he shld do as he needs to to save democracy:
1- remove the conservative partisan SCOTUS who voted for immunity for the Con, and fill them w moderate & liberal justices
2- remove all RWers in Congress
3- set laws to ban all guns for civilians except those used for hunting & with licens
4- restore reporoductive rights
And on & on.... all liberal causes

Lastly he can then order SCOTUS to reverse the Presidential immunity to only while in office.😎

Not Dem POTUS.

Mark my words.

I'm surprised that Thomas didn't declare Trump president by fiat.

n/t

I don't have the video, but if you had msnbc on a short while ago you heard him completely excoriate Corrupt REPUBLICAN Supreme Court Justices. in no uncertain terms and I feel more than inclined to agree.

Not sure if I've got his phraseology correct, but it did contain those words (i.e. Corrupt REPUBLICAN Supreme Court Justices[) in that approximate order uttered with extreme insistence.

We should reform the fuck out of the Supreme Court, add at least ten more justices and create an enforceable ethics code for them.

It seems totally corrupt to not rule on this when Jack Smith requested it in December if it WAS something that they were willing to consider. It would be interesting to know if the decisions in December and now were 6-3 or 5-4 because 5-4 would mean that one of the Rethug justices ruled against Trump and just one more is needed to reject the immunity claim. If it was 6-3, it could be a higher hurdle.

Refusing to rule on the issue in December and then agreeing to take it up now is a lot like Mitch McConnell refusing to have hearings for a replacement for Antonin Scalia when he died in February because it was too close to an election, but then ultra-fast tracking the hearings when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died on September 18th, 6 weeks before an election. It's pathetic that the "conservative" SCOTUS members are now as blatantly partisan as the Senate.

This country could really use a new constitutional convention to get rid of the electoral college and introduce term limits and conflict of interest rules to the Supreme Court and a bunch of other things.

They've just agreed to hear the arguments. For that at least 4 justices are required.

I didn't know how this works, but it seems odd that 5 justices can decide that a case doesn't merit consideration, but that 4 justices get to overrule the 5.

Oh, fuck that.

Let's hope some shred of judicial ?decorum/understanding/decency/???remains so that some of those 6 will do the right thing in the end!

He's a fucking former, insurrectionist stirring President, NOT a freaking King! 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

up against an election. With this move, SCOTUS will hear it, BUT NOT UNTIL APRIL 22, THEN THEY HAVE TO DECIDE, WHICH COULD ADD EVEN MORE WEEKS OF DELAY AND EVEN CLOSER TO THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION.

The Roberts court, already loaded with corrupt justices, makes it clear IMO, that they are in the tank for trump.

His attorneys will have no further place to go.

He also was very upset as we are that they didn’t fast track this and said justice delayed is Justice denied.

She said that when Justice Pan of the DC circuit asked the Seal Team 6 question, that might have gotten the ear of at least one of the SCOTUS' 3 liberal justices and made her want to hear the case.

This is the most corrupt SCOTUS we have ever had. I don't expect anything moral or ethical to come out of at least Thomas and Alito who are just paid stooges of the right wing puppetmasters. If they dare try and give Donald Dump a pass, then I hope Joe Biden takes that new power and runs with it. He'll have 6 months to do whatever he wants won't he?

... to protect trans people, to protect women, to reinstall affirmative action, to protect the right to contraception, and to override the Roe decision among other things. Forgive all student loans. Outlaw gasoline sales.

Go for broke, Joe.

I'll bet they rule a president doesn't have immunity after all. And in record time.

Goddamn Democrats are far too cautious. They're always afraid of what the other guys will do. Well, guess what? the other guys are going to screw you no matter what you do, so why not take some fucking bold action for once? Make them fight you. In the meantime, people will love what you are trying to do FOR THEM.

Gah. I despair.

what we need to do is VOTE! trump has underperfored every election since he lost in 2020.

I heard Weissman say that SCOTUS could decide to hear the case (takes 4 votes), but not issue a stay (5 votes).