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former9thward

(32,097 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:12 PM Mar 6

Jury convicts 'Rust' movie armorer of involuntary manslaughter in fatal shooting on Alec Baldwin film set

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

The verdict against movie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed assigns new blame in the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins in October 2021. The proceedings are a preamble to a scheduled trial of Baldwin in July on a single charge of involuntary manslaughter.

A jury convicted a movie weapons supervisor of involuntary manslaughter on Wednesday in the fatal shooting of a cinematographer by actor Alec Baldwin during a rehearsal on the set of the Western movie “Rust.”

The verdict against movie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed assigns new blame in the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins in October 2021 after an assistant director last year pleaded no contest to negligent handling of a firearm.

Baldwin, the lead actor and a co-producer on “Rust,” was indicted by a grand jury in January on a charge of involuntary manslaughter. He was pointing a gun at Hutchins on a movie set outside Santa Fe, New Mexico, when the gun went off, killing her and wounding director Joel Souza

Read more: https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2024/03/06/jury-convicts-rust-movie-armorer-of-involuntary-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-on-alec-baldwin-film-set

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Jury convicts 'Rust' movie armorer of involuntary manslaughter in fatal shooting on Alec Baldwin film set (Original Post) former9thward Mar 6 OP
'Arrmorer' a movie weapons supervisor elleng Mar 6 #1
Did not do her job. Sneederbunk Mar 6 #2
did hollywood conduct a murder in order to make sales? PerceptionManagement Mar 6 #3
Click Bait! Jacson6 Mar 6 #4
absurd. and not deserving .. -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 6 #9
There is still something stinky about this. twodogsbarking Mar 6 #5
This is the correct outcome localroger Mar 6 #6
There is still something stinky. twodogsbarking Mar 6 #7
I would tend to agree DiceK Mar 6 #8
Wonderful news -- I wasn't even aware that anyone else had been criminally charged Rocknation Mar 7 #10
Baldwin has also been criminally charged. former9thward Mar 7 #14
Unless Baldwin himself put the live bullets in the gun Rocknation Mar 7 #15
We will see what evidence the prosecutors have come up with. former9thward Mar 7 #16
Oh you have inside information? Kingofalldems Mar 7 #19
well, he has given some interviews that indicate he should have known Kali Mar 7 #11
They said that she didn't follow many official protocols so did not detect the live ammo. Kablooie Mar 7 #12
If I remember correctly a number of safety rules were broken. Aussie105 Mar 7 #13
"2. Someone brought in ammo and used the gun previously for a bit of target shooting." That was the problem. honest.abe Mar 7 #18
Am I missing something here? There are many, many films made with scenes of shots being fired at people, yet this CTyankee Mar 7 #17

localroger

(3,634 posts)
6. This is the correct outcome
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 09:41 PM
Mar 6

The "armorer" on a movie set is responsible for keeping track of all the weapons, whether they're loaded, and so on. She handed Baldwin a loaded gun and told him it was OK to pull the trigger. That's manslaughter.

What is stinky is that Baldwin is being tried at all, since he had no basis for knowing whether the gun was loaded and in the protocol of the movie set pulling the trigger while aiming it at the camera was a completely normal thing to do. It was the armorer's job to make sure everything was safe, and she fucked it up.

DiceK

(35 posts)
8. I would tend to agree
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 10:36 PM
Mar 6

Seems hard to think he is legally responsible as the shooter in this case. But as the producer on set he seems like he holds some responsibility in a civil suit.

Rocknation

(44,580 posts)
10. Wonderful news -- I wasn't even aware that anyone else had been criminally charged
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:27 AM
Mar 7

Last edited Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Baldwin is only civilly liable at worst.


Rocknation

Rocknation

(44,580 posts)
15. Unless Baldwin himself put the live bullets in the gun
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 12:57 PM
Mar 7

or conspired with the armorer to put live bullets in the gun, his liability should only be civil.


Rocknation

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
16. We will see what evidence the prosecutors have come up with.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:03 PM
Mar 7

And I guarantee the armorer will testify against him.

Kali

(55,026 posts)
11. well, he has given some interviews that indicate he should have known
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:40 AM
Mar 7

and there is a lot of evidence that the whole set was a shit show. he seems to have some culpability. she fucked up for sure, but she wasn't the only one.

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
12. They said that she didn't follow many official protocols so did not detect the live ammo.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 04:30 AM
Mar 7

If she had followed them, she would have found it ahead of time.
Sounds like a clear cut case to me.

Aussie105

(5,444 posts)
13. If I remember correctly a number of safety rules were broken.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:00 AM
Mar 7

1. A functional gun was on set.

2. Someone brought in ammo and used the gun previously for a bit of target shooting.

3. The armourer did not check the weapon before handing it over for a scene.

4. Baldwin did not check the gun. He assumed it was a deactivated weapon and/or unloaded.

5. Baldwin himself said he did not pull the trigger, but just dropped the hammer manually.
That's safe enough, if the gun is deactivated or holding no live ammo.
The scene being filmed probably required him to point the gun at the camera, so most likely he can't be accused of following the rule of never pointing a gun at anyone, no matter how safe you think it is to do so.

A number of people are at fault, and numerous assumptions and mistakes were made.


honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
18. "2. Someone brought in ammo and used the gun previously for a bit of target shooting." That was the problem.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:09 PM
Mar 7

No live bullets should ever be allowed on set.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. Am I missing something here? There are many, many films made with scenes of shots being fired at people, yet this
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 01:05 PM
Mar 7

happened on this movie set, filming this scene. Yet this doesn't happen in any other filming. This doesn't appear to be a low budget film so they had the means to shoot the scene safely. There should NEVER have been any live bullets anywhere near the filming. Why were there any bullets there in the first place?

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