'The machine did it coldly': Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets
Source: The Guardian
This is unparalleled, in my memory, said one intelligence officer who used Lavender, adding that they had more faith in a statistical mechanism than a grieving soldier. Everyone there, including me, lost people on October 7. The machine did it coldly. And that made it easier.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes
This is sickening.
moniss
(4,274 posts)where the computers "calculate strikes and casualties" between two warring planets. No bombs or guns. Then the people just report to the disintegration chambers.
Ford_Prefect
(7,917 posts)I know of no exception made in international law for the discretion of a computer. Humans have the responsibility for deciding what is and is not right, for what and who are NOT legitimate targets. It is the responsibility of those who engage in the uses of force to apply it correctly, accurately, and with regard to the safety of noncombatants.
We have been down this road before. We often have used drones without care for noncombatants, as the footage and evidence has shown. We know that it is not a mistake. It is a choice to attack based on the inherent bias in the command structure which caused those events. Perhaps even a willing attack on "outsiders" interfering in what are claimed to be internal affairs.
I will not sell one more bullet, nor bandage, nor any further technology to them. Netanyahu and the dominant Likud party leaders owe the world an explanation which goes beyond "they hit us first".
And before any fool thinks that I justify Hamas by this, think again. Murder is murder under any flag. It is not a way to solve problems. But then that is not the purpose of Hamas. Nor Netanyahu.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Theyre going to keep on shooting anything that moves, only now theyre going to blame it on AI.
dembotoz
(16,823 posts)Bayard
(22,123 posts)IronLionZion
(45,495 posts)and continuing to kill high numbers of civilians regardless is malicious. It looks increasingly like the goal is to kill lots of civilians and make that area unlivable so they leave.
Polybius
(15,465 posts)How can anyone on the left support such a regime?
IronLionZion
(45,495 posts)Both sides deserve better representation.
LudwigPastorius
(9,164 posts)Another intelligence officer said that more recently in the conflict, the rate of permitted collateral damage was brought down again. But at one stage earlier in the war they were authorised to kill up to 20 uninvolved civilians for a single operative, regardless of their rank, military importance, or age.
Its not just that you can kill any person who is a Hamas soldier, which is clearly permitted and legitimate in terms of international law, they said. But they directly tell you: You are allowed to kill them along with many civilians. In practice, the proportionality criterion did not exist.
cstanleytech
(26,313 posts)However it should only be used with identifying the officer level types and such that are most likely to have been involved in the planning and carrying out of the attack as well as those that might be involved in holding the hostages.
Even then though it should go on to some human beings to completely vet the list.