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BumRushDaShow

(129,298 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 05:17 AM Apr 4

'F**king Idiot': Critics Rip Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Over Bonkers Mass Shooting Remarks

Source: Huff Post

Apr 4, 2024, 04:09 AM EDT


Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appeared to suggest that mass shootings in the U.S. are linked to antidepressants and video games in a resurfaced clip from an interview in January.

The conspiracy theorist, in a video shared by Democratic strategist Keith Edwards, called on the National Institutes of Health to look into “the etiology” of gun violence in an interview with TRT World’s Tim Constantine. “NIH needs to be studying them to see if there’s connections to some of the SSRI and psychiatric drugs people are taking or there’s connections to video games,” said Kennedy in an appearance on “The Capitol Hill Show.”

His campaign previously shared a clip of the interview that highlights a Mayo Clinic definition of SSRIs and cuts to footage of kids playing video games.

Experts have found no causal link that’s been “scientifically established” between psychiatric drugs and mass shootings, PolitiFact.com noted in 2019. There’s also no evidence to support the claim that violent video games cause mass shootings, experts told CNBC that year.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/robert-f-kennedy-jr-shootings-antidepressants-video-games_n_660e46fae4b083254eaaf288

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'F**king Idiot': Critics Rip Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Over Bonkers Mass Shooting Remarks (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 4 OP
Perhaps he'll get some votes in Clearwater, FL Jose Garcia Apr 4 #1
Nicely done, Jose! 🤣😂 Oopsie Daisy Apr 4 #3
Resurfaced? This has been in plain sight for anyone who cares to look. Eugene Apr 4 #2
anyone else think they missed news about a mass shooting at a place called Bonkers? Skittles Apr 4 #4
So he even believes Scientology theories Oppaloopa Apr 4 #5
The right loves conspiracy theories, KS Toronado Apr 4 #10
Plenty of people on the left believe in them, too NanaCat Apr 4 #27
Rat FucKer Jr should be recognized as a danger by all voters. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 4 #6
Mass shootings have increased because intheflow Apr 4 #7
Funny I have been on SSRIs BlueKota Apr 4 #8
I remember the old Looney Tunes. Dr. T Apr 4 #11
We also didn't believe the Wiley Coyote could BlueKota Apr 4 #13
Have you ever, ever Dr. T Apr 4 #14
🤣 BlueKota Apr 4 #15
I did, however, once grab a can of red paint and a brush when... LudwigPastorius Apr 4 #25
That's not quite how I remember Tom & Jerry... Chrysanthemum Apr 5 #32
It's not quite the slam dunk being described here by HuffPo. TheRickles Apr 4 #9
You don't think.... SergeStorms Apr 4 #12
Yes, of course - easy access to weapons is the #1 key factor here. But all behaviors are multi-factorial, TheRickles Apr 4 #16
Of course WhiteTara Apr 4 #18
Meanwhile out here in reality NanaCat Apr 4 #28
The access was just as easy if not easier from the 50's to 80's Polybius Apr 4 #22
Access to AR-15s in the 50s-80s NanaCat Apr 4 #29
Saying, according to PubMed is like saying, according to the library mahina Apr 4 #19
And that's why I gave a link to one of the studies on Pub Med. What did you make of their conclusions? TheRickles Apr 4 #21
That correllation does not equal causation NanaCat Apr 4 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Apr 4 #26
Does this dolt nwduke Apr 4 #17
Clear, obvious proof that rfkjr isn't playing with a full deck. Paladin Apr 4 #20
RFKJ needs to be on psychiatric drugs Bayard Apr 4 #23
Why doesn't he just go full L. Ron Hubbard? LudwigPastorius Apr 4 #24
This idiot is a nut case LetMyPeopleVote Apr 5 #31
This is exactly what I was thinking so I'll just rec your post. What a nut. nt TBF Apr 5 #33

Eugene

(61,935 posts)
2. Resurfaced? This has been in plain sight for anyone who cares to look.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 05:42 AM
Apr 4

It would only be overshadowed by all the other bonkers conspiracy theories RFK Jr. pushes.

KS Toronado

(17,291 posts)
10. The right loves conspiracy theories,
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:51 AM
Apr 4

they are stupid enough to believe in Qanon postings, we might be surprised how many votes he gets from
disillusioned reQublicans which are many.

NanaCat

(1,204 posts)
27. Plenty of people on the left believe in them, too
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 03:02 PM
Apr 4

A sizeable number of them believe these insane assertions about vaccines and medications causing crime, just as much as MAGA does. Much of the anti-vax movement started on the left, in the equally off-kilter 'natural' health crowd.



BlueKota

(1,767 posts)
8. Funny I have been on SSRIs
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:45 AM
Apr 4

for over 20 years now and I have managed not to shoot even 1 person. I also used to watch "violent" (Looney Tunes)cartoons and cop shows yet again I have not shot anyone or tried to drop an anvil on someone's head. People are always looking to scapegoat someone or something when they want to avoid the consequences of their own behavior, or they want to ignore the real contributing factors behind it.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
11. I remember the old Looney Tunes.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:16 AM
Apr 4

Let's not forget the hilarious cat-on-mouse violence of Tom and Jerry. Despite my exposure, I have never whacked anyone with a sledge hammer or swallowed a bowling ball.

BlueKota

(1,767 posts)
13. We also didn't believe the Wiley Coyote could
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:32 AM
Apr 4

have a boulder dropped on him or have a stick of dynamite go off in his face and come back unharmed a few minutes later.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
14. Have you ever, ever
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:43 AM
Apr 4

took two garbage can lids and crashed them into the sides of someone's head? Me neither.

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
25. I did, however, once grab a can of red paint and a brush when...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 02:13 PM
Apr 4

someone told me they wanted their palm read.

TheRickles

(2,077 posts)
9. It's not quite the slam dunk being described here by HuffPo.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:51 AM
Apr 4

RFK Jr. was referring to several studies that have reached similar conclusions to this one:

"According to PubMed {a publicly available online repository of medical journal articles}, there is no convincing evidence that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) cause violence or suicide. However, a 2016 systematic review of trials in healthy adult volunteers found that antidepressants can double the occurrence of events that can lead to suicide and violence. A 2006 review also found that placebo-controlled trials of antidepressants show an increased risk of aggressive behaviors, but these outcomes only apply to a small subset of patients."

Here's one study from Sweden (2020): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32475742/
Many more can be viewed by Googling "PubMed, SSRI, violence"

So it's not simply black-or-white. All medications have side-effects, and a subset of SSRI patients are at risk of aggressive behaviors.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
12. You don't think....
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:21 AM
Apr 4

it's the ridiculously easy access to assault-style weapons that cause these mass murders?


Doctors in other countries around the world prescribe these same drugs. What's the one item not available in these other countries? Easy access to weapons.

Put the blame for mass murders with military-style weapons where it belongs.

TheRickles

(2,077 posts)
16. Yes, of course - easy access to weapons is the #1 key factor here. But all behaviors are multi-factorial,
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:54 AM
Apr 4

and so the SSRI angle has to be taken into consideration.

NanaCat

(1,204 posts)
28. Meanwhile out here in reality
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 03:07 PM
Apr 4

Far more people not on anti-depressants are prone to committing suicide or engaging in violent acts than those who are on the meds.

So we should let people kill themselves and sometimes others to 'save' the far fewer people who suffer adverse affects from anti-depressants?

Yeah, that totes makes sense.

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
22. The access was just as easy if not easier from the 50's to 80's
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 12:32 PM
Apr 4

Why were there less mass shootings then?

NanaCat

(1,204 posts)
29. Access to AR-15s in the 50s-80s
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 03:10 PM
Apr 4

Was either entirely zero, or close to it during that time period.

Funny how that works.

mahina

(17,686 posts)
19. Saying, according to PubMed is like saying, according to the library
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:57 AM
Apr 4

Or even better, according to Google. It’s a handy search term, but not an accurate attribution.

NanaCat

(1,204 posts)
30. That correllation does not equal causation
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 03:18 PM
Apr 4

SSRIs have always had a risk of causing suicide ideation or violent behaviour in a quite small percentage of people taking them; however, nothing indicates that those side affects cause people to commit mass murder. Never mind establishing how that would work inside the brain.

The paper makes a leap that it does not and cannot back up. It looks at metadata and finds what it wants to find there, but it hasn't established a strong connection between the things it claims.

And that's the problem with so many of these meta-studies.

Response to TheRickles (Reply #9)

nwduke

(351 posts)
17. Does this dolt
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:45 AM
Apr 4

think that kids in other countries are not watching and playing video games? Compared to most of the other countries around the world, the US far exceeds in the number of gun related violence incidences. What do you suppose is the common denominator here? Guns! The Kennedy family is appalled and embarrassed by this lunatic!

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
24. Why doesn't he just go full L. Ron Hubbard?
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 02:12 PM
Apr 4

He seems like the kind of gullible, dipshit who would be balls deep into Scientology.

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