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BumRushDaShow

(129,304 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 03:29 PM Apr 12

Florida blocks heat protections for workers right before summer

Source: NPR

April 12, 2024 2:07 PM ET



Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has signed a law that prevents cities or counties from creating protections for workers who labor in the state's often extreme and dangerous heat. Two million people in Florida, from construction to agriculture, work outside in often humid, blazing heat.

For years, many of them have asked for rules to protect them from heat: paid rest breaks, water, and access to shade when temperatures soar. After years of negotiations, such rules were on the agenda in Miami-Dade County, home to an estimated 300,000 outdoor workers.

But the new law, signed Thursday evening, blocks such protections from being implemented in cities and counties across the state. Miami-Dade pulled its local heat protection rule from consideration after the statewide bill passed the legislature in March.

"It's outrageous that the state legislature will override the elected officials of Miami Dade or other counties that really recognize the importance of protecting that community of workers," says David Michaels, an epidemiologist at George Washington University and a former administrator at the federal Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA).

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/12/1244316874/florida-blocks-heat-protections-for-workers-right-before-summer

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Florida blocks heat protections for workers right before summer (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 12 OP
This is cruel but the Florida legislators are rubbing stamping the governor. Here's a look Deuxcents Apr 12 #1
Example number 10,000,097,801 why Republicans lack empathy. And make laws to... FailureToCommunicate Apr 12 #2
What a piece of garbage he is. NT Habibi Apr 12 #3
why? et tu Apr 12 #4
It's not hard to understand. Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 13 #21
Just thought of something. justgamma Apr 12 #5
Kill them before they can get on a path to citizenship. Then bring in some more. Marcuse Apr 12 #13
Imagine working as a roofer or on highway crew in the summer, it is doc03 Apr 12 #6
Can DeathSentence think of any other ways to kill people after torturing them? appleannie1 Apr 12 #7
Well he did work in Guantanamo Bay with prisoners DBoon Apr 13 #27
OSHA says they don't care what Florida says. OldBaldy1701E Apr 12 #8
They didn't learn from last summer. For the record, a heat index of 108 F is when a Heat Advisory is issued in Florida tornado34jh Apr 12 #9
Florida is looking to lose billions in damages in court cases. Martin68 Apr 12 #10
How cruel Marthe48 Apr 12 #11
What is the point of this? LNM Apr 12 #12
I worked markodochartaigh Apr 13 #31
So it's all politics LNM Apr 13 #36
I think that markodochartaigh Apr 13 #37
Stop working will F them. TTOMMCCATT Apr 12 #14
Unfortunately, people who need the jobs AdamGG Apr 13 #15
They will just pass a law that says workers must work and must not complain. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Apr 13 #17
From the UFW: Tanuki Apr 13 #16
He earns his name each and every day - Death Sentence! lark Apr 13 #18
As if decent people... GiqueCee Apr 13 #19
Florida Republicans take the "How stupid can you get?" challenge. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 13 #20
How evil can you get. More like. bullimiami Apr 13 #30
If you want to know why unions are important - this should make it clear. flashman13 Apr 13 #22
bet disney won't comply- nt et tu Apr 13 #23
Disney is private. They can set their own rules. LeftInTX Apr 13 #26
OSHA Smackdown2019 Apr 13 #24
Does Gov. Harvard/Yale ever go to church? CTyankee Apr 13 #25
Like Tucker, he rode the easy life. Never worked an "honest day" in their lives. Evolve Dammit Apr 13 #33
Make DeSucko and the FL Gop break rocks in the hot sun jpak Apr 13 #28
Big government, not local control by the citizens. DeSantis has the power of life and death for workers. keithbvadu2 Apr 13 #29
A true sociopath. Get him up on a roof (or anywhere) when it is over 90/100 and high humidity. Asshole Evolve Dammit Apr 13 #32
Sadistic POS. I hope there is a hell and they burn. 58Sunliner Apr 13 #34
I know why he's doing this! calimary Apr 13 #35
FFS. We have worker heat protection rules here in Washington. Kennah Apr 15 #38

Deuxcents

(16,298 posts)
1. This is cruel but the Florida legislators are rubbing stamping the governor. Here's a look
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 03:40 PM
Apr 12

At a group partnering The Fair Food Program..a group between retailers, farmers and farm workers.
www.civileats.com “We as workers can’t afford to wait for the Florida legislature to find its conscience.” A good read..

FailureToCommunicate

(14,019 posts)
2. Example number 10,000,097,801 why Republicans lack empathy. And make laws to...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 03:43 PM
Apr 12

codify their lack of any consideration for their fellow humans, especially if those are female, people of color, low wage workers, etc.

Let's see Gov. DeSantis work patching holes in a stretch of highway without water or shade or rest. He wouldn't last ONE hour.

et tu

(888 posts)
4. why?
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:06 PM
Apr 12

so callous and murderous. so hard to understand
how they can still be called homo sapiens, an inbreed
to themselves~

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,977 posts)
21. It's not hard to understand.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:15 AM
Apr 13

DeathSentence is a straight up sadistic SOB. i have no doubt he gets a real charge out of signing cruel ideas like this into law.

And he is power hungry which makes him dangerous. In the long run, he could wind up being more dangerous than Trump. Trump is an old buffoon while DeathSentence is only in his 40s, and well educated.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
5. Just thought of something.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:08 PM
Apr 12

Is this his way of killing off Mexican workers since no Americans will do those jobs?

doc03

(35,361 posts)
6. Imagine working as a roofer or on highway crew in the summer, it is
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:14 PM
Apr 12

unbearable to step outside in the summer.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
7. Can DeathSentence think of any other ways to kill people after torturing them?
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 06:14 PM
Apr 12

I swear that is how he gets his jollies.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,144 posts)
8. OSHA says they don't care what Florida says.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 08:04 PM
Apr 12

Because Federal law is the law of the land, including Florida. So, suck it GoGo Boots, if you try to interfere with federal guidelines, stye will be happy to come down there and explain it to you.

tornado34jh

(935 posts)
9. They didn't learn from last summer. For the record, a heat index of 108 F is when a Heat Advisory is issued in Florida
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 12

Where I am from, that would be considered an Excessive Heat Warning. Heat kills; it doesn't matter how well built you are. Last summer was especially brutal. There were not only Heat Advisories, but Excessive Heat Warnings as well, with heat indexes approaching 115-120. I hadn't seen that since the summer of 2012 when I was living in Virginia. But to me, I have noticed changes in the weather. I moved to Florida in 2015, and at least for the first few years, it was more or less what I would be expecting. But since 2020, it has been getting hotter and drier. The rainy season hasn't been as strong as it once was. There was a time where I could count the number of Heat Advisories in a summer on 5 fingers or less. But lately, I have been seeing it a lot more frequently. Usually when we got really good thunderstorms, it would drop the apparent temperature by 30 degrees or more. But at least here in Lakeland, I haven't seen it been it as often as I would like. In fact, last summer, the areas around Tampa/St.Pete were so hot and dry, they actually ended up being in an extreme drought, and it only just recently got cleared out.

When you sweat, you not only are losing water, but electrolytes as well. As somebody who works at Publix, even just being out there for 30 minutes bringing carts in, I had to bring electrolyte/spring water last summer because it was too hot. Unlike hypothermia, where people have survived when the core temperature has been 80 F or below, it's much narrower in the other direction. If it gets to 104-106, that could have be dangerous or fatal. Most don't survive when the body temperatures is 107 or above, and those who do are extremely rare.

I almost think these guys should spend a week out in the heat and drink nothing and see how they would like it. See how tough they really are. I bet you that they wouldn't last a whole day. But again, all of this is just for them, not us average Joes. These laws are there to benefit the rich.

Marthe48

(17,005 posts)
11. How cruel
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 10:04 PM
Apr 12

I hope that people defy this abject law, signed by a degenerate barbarian. Give people water. Give them shade. Give them a break. Private businesses can do defy this cruelty and cities anywhere certainly should.

markodochartaigh

(1,143 posts)
31. I worked
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 05:20 PM
Apr 13

for authoritarian employers in Texas for decades. The employers who chose to have any protections in place for employees will be able to point out that "out of the goodness of their hearts" they are providing these protections, which the government fails to provide. So the employees will see the protections (which are likely much less than employees get where protections are mandated by government) as coming from business as opposed to coming from government. One more tactic to get people to look to their employer for help and to see government as weak and unable or unwilling to help them.

LNM

(1,080 posts)
36. So it's all politics
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:59 PM
Apr 13

I scratch your back, you scratch mine. I hope this extreme bill will backfire on DeSantis.

markodochartaigh

(1,143 posts)
37. I think that
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:38 PM
Apr 13

"You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" is actually very benign compared to what I experienced. I would say that it was much more manipulative and a way of forcing submission and extracting obedience. Many of the owners for whom I worked were the descendants of slave owners and had an innate understanding of how to use people and absolutely no compunction preventing them from extracting maximum value from others.

TTOMMCCATT

(5 posts)
14. Stop working will F them.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 11:30 PM
Apr 12

It may bring these workers some economic pain, however if they stop working it will bring so much inconvenience to the elite class via the loss of all of the services that they provide, the whining and crying will solicit an appropriate response.

AdamGG

(1,294 posts)
15. Unfortunately, people who need the jobs
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 01:20 AM
Apr 13

can't afford to boycott.

With Desantis and these right wing assholes, the cruelty isn't a bug, it's a feature.

lark

(23,138 posts)
18. He earns his name each and every day - Death Sentence!
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:39 AM
Apr 13

Why would he and they do something so stupid and counter productive - because they hate working class folks and don't want rich companies to have to spend one penny to save the workers lives! I hope FL crops rot from not having anyone to pick them. If enough people don't come here to work and crops rot, well, it's death sentence in action and people will take note. Yes, I will pay higher prices, but it would be so worth it. Maybe we will have to expand our container garden to more than many varieties of peppers and tomatos? That wouldn't be a bad thing.

LeftInTX

(25,486 posts)
26. Disney is private. They can set their own rules.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 02:40 PM
Apr 13

This law applies to government workers and contractors. It applies to public utility workers, contractors who are building/repairing government buildings, street repair and street construction etc.

Smackdown2019

(1,190 posts)
24. OSHA
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 01:54 PM
Apr 13

If a worker falls ill from the heat and requires hospitalization, OSHA will open an investigation and will not laugh when they fine all those involved from protecting the work force. This Florida Bill is a state and Federal Laws and Regulations supercedes and state laws or regulations


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Does Gov. Harvard/Yale ever go to church?
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 02:40 PM
Apr 13

Doesn't the scripture say something about healing the sick, feeding the hungry, etc?

calimary

(81,415 posts)
35. I know why he's doing this!
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:05 PM
Apr 13

He's finally started working on population control. And maybe he thinks THIS is the way to do it since he's already over-prioritized forced pregnancy.

Kennah

(14,298 posts)
38. FFS. We have worker heat protection rules here in Washington.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 12:37 PM
Apr 15

Much less hot here than in Florida, which may come as a surprise to some.

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