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BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 03:59 PM Apr 16

First 7 jurors seated in Trump trial as judge warns former president about comments

Last edited Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:21 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: CBS News

Updated on: April 16, 2024 / 6:32 PM EDT


Seven Manhattan residents were selected to serve on the jury in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial on Tuesday, as lawyers for both sides clashed over which potential jurors should be seated and the judge warned the defendant to remain quiet.

During the selection process, the anonymous members of the jury were known only by letters and numbers, like B400 and B280. There are four men and three women, ranging from young to middle-aged. They include a salesman, a nurse, two lawyers, an IT consultant, a teacher and a software engineer. Three grew up elsewhere — in Ireland, Oregon and Puerto Rico.

They all answered questions about their background and their opinion of Trump before they were chosen to serve on the jury for one of the highest-profile trials in American history. One member, the nurse, said she "[doesn't] really have" an opinion of the former president. She promised that she is "here for my civic duty" and "to listen to the facts." The IT consultant said, "My family is my hobby," and admitted to finding Trump "fascinating and mysterious."

The teacher said she has friends with strong opinions of Trump, but added that she's not very interested in politics or the news. "President Trump speaks his mind, and I'd rather that than someone who's in office who you don't know what they're thinking," she said. She was not aware that Trump faces criminal charges in other cases.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-trial-day-2-jury-selection-new-york/



Article updated.

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Updated on: April 16, 2024 / 5:43 PM EDT


Seven Manhattan residents were selected to serve on the jury in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial on Tuesday, as lawyers for both sides clashed over which potential jurors should be seated and the judge warned the defendant to remain quiet.

During the selection process, the anonymous members of the jury were known only by letters and numbers, like B400 and B280. There are four men and three women, ranging from young to middle-aged. They include a salesman, a nurse, two lawyers, an IT consultant, a teacher and a software engineer. Three grew up elsewhere, in Ireland, Oregon and Puerto Rico.

They all answered questions about their background and their opinion of Trump before they were chosen to serve on the jury for one of the highest-profile trials in American history. One member, the nurse, said she "[doesn't] really have" an opinion of the former president. She promised that she is "here for my civic duty" and "to listen to the facts." The IT consultant said, "My family is my hobby," and admitted to finding Trump "fascinating and mysterious."

The teacher said she has friends with strong opinions of Trump, but added that she's not very interested in politics or the news. "President Trump speaks his mind, and I'd rather that than someone who's in office who you don't know what they're thinking," she said. She was not aware that Trump faces criminal charges in other cases.



First 6 jurors seated in Trump trial as judge warns former president about comments

Updated on: April 16, 2024 / 4:23 PM EDT


Six Manhattan residents were sworn in Tuesday afternoon to serve on the jury in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial as lawyers for both sides clashed over which potential jurors should -- and should not -- be seated.

At least six more, plus another half dozen alternates, must still be chosen. Roughly 80 people have been excused since questioning began Monday. Most of them said they could not be impartial in deciding a case involving Trump. Others were dismissed based on their answers to questions about their political beliefs or social media posts.

A dispute over one juror's Facebook posts showing celebrations after Trump lost the 2020 election prompted audible comments from the former president on Tuesday. That earned him an admonishment from Judge Juan Merchan, who told Trump attorney Todd Blanche to speak to his client.

"Mr. Blanche, your client was audibly uttering something. He was audible, gesturing and speaking in the direction of the juror. I won't tolerate that," Merchan said. "I will not have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom. I want to make that crystal clear."



Original article -

Updated on: April 16, 2024 / 3:46 PM EDT


Six Manhattan residents were sworn in Tuesday afternoon to serve on the jury in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial as lawyers for both sides clashed over which potential jurors should -- and should not -- be seated.

At least six more, plus another half dozen alternates, must still be chosen. Roughly 80 people have been excused since proceedings began Monday, most of whom said they could not be impartial in deciding a case involving Trump.

On Tuesday, a dispute over one juror's Facebook posts showing celebrations after Trump lost the 2020 election prompted audible comments from the former president. That earned him an admonishment from Judge Juan Merchan, who told Trump attorney Todd Blanche to speak to his client.

"Mr. Blanche, your client was audibly uttering something. He was audible, gesturing and speaking in the direction of the juror. I won't tolerate that," Merchan said. "I will not have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom. I want to make that crystal clear."
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First 7 jurors seated in Trump trial as judge warns former president about comments (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 16 OP
Anybody who serves deserves a Medal of Honor Marthe48 Apr 16 #1
The MoH is reserved for the Military, not civilians, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 16 #14
Thank you for clarifying Marthe48 Apr 16 #19
We should start a Gofundme orangecrush Apr 16 #28
I could definitely get behind that. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 16 #29
I had an instructor orangecrush Apr 16 #32
Unnecessary. ShazzieB Apr 16 #34
The problem isn't at the courthouse orangecrush Apr 16 #37
Yes, if the public finds out who they are... Think. Again. Apr 16 #39
"Bailiff, whack his peepee" RainCaster Apr 16 #2
Only six/12 jurors chosen, yet the jury foreperson has already been "named"... hlthe2b Apr 16 #3
They are going to be picking more than 12 BumRushDaShow Apr 16 #4
Yes I know. I am only remarking on how unusual it is that a jury foreman has been 'named' at this juncture hlthe2b Apr 16 #5
Well oddly and uniquely enough BumRushDaShow Apr 16 #6
Well, there you go. I am notorious for destroying Defense Attorneys planned cases (unintentionally) in voir dire hlthe2b Apr 16 #8
LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 16 #9
I've only been called for jury duty twice in my life. ShazzieB Apr 16 #21
Before Covid I was called every year for 20 years. Demobrat Apr 16 #26
I've been thrown out of two jury pools bedazzled Apr 16 #11
i looked at a defendant the wrong way and got let go. learned later that he did a plea deal. he wanted to AllaN01Bear Apr 16 #12
I was kicked out of a jury pool where Demobrat Apr 16 #16
That would have been a challenging jury bedazzled Apr 16 #33
I got a call to serve by mail in federal court. LiberalFighter Apr 16 #40
FYI The first juror seated during selection is the jury foreperson in NYS courts. nt Princess Turandot Apr 16 #23
Well - hopefully he's not one to take any Malarkey peppertree Apr 16 #24
I just heard (I think it was on Meidas Touch?) that in NY state the fierywoman Apr 16 #10
I heard the same thing. It does not matter who you are. Paper Roses Apr 16 #15
Two of the chosen are lawyers NanaCat Apr 17 #50
One of the videos I saw, piddyprints Apr 17 #51
Probably the 1st time MFer has ever been in room with a person that voted against his pasty ass. maxsolomon Apr 16 #7
If she were my kids teacher, I would want a new teacher JT45242 Apr 16 #13
Exactly!!! niyad Apr 16 #44
Trump Complaining about a Fair Jury Pool johne8408 Apr 16 #17
This is a random selection of residents of Manhattan? malthaussen Apr 16 #18
"fascinating and mysterious" Ugh StarryNite Apr 16 #20
That's two words I'd never use to describe TFG William Seger Apr 16 #31
Well, so is a heap of dog shit that you step on barefoot in the dark Orrex Apr 16 #36
Thanks! Jury selection continues on Thursday. 'Til then the criminal defendant can go back to bed. ancianita Apr 16 #22
President Trump speaks his mind, and I'd rather that than someone who's in office who you don't know what they're thinki orangecrush Apr 16 #25
Oh and don't forget another one finds him "fascinating and mysterious". StarryNite Apr 16 #30
Guess the prosecution knows orangecrush Apr 16 #35
This and the one below ("fascinating and mysterious") sounds like Silver Gaia Apr 16 #38
Thank you orangecrush Apr 16 #46
Thanks for the thanks! Silver Gaia Apr 17 #47
Nicolle Wallace showed an interview Deminpenn Apr 16 #27
Interesting! aurora the great Apr 16 #41
"She was not aware that Trump faces criminal charges in other cases." Thunderbeast Apr 16 #42
I just wish we could watch it in real time.... slightlv Apr 16 #43
The TEACHER does not know that he is facing other criminal charges??? niyad Apr 16 #45
Liars, schmoozer and idiots. They're a perfect start towards creating the jury of his peers. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 17 #48
He says he won't tolerate that, as he tolerates it. Kablooie Apr 17 #49

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
14. The MoH is reserved for the Military, not civilians,
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:31 PM
Apr 16

what they should receive is the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the nation's highest civilian award.

orangecrush

(19,585 posts)
32. I had an instructor
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:02 PM
Apr 16

Who was a bodyguard for Terry Anderson shortly after he returned from captivity in Iran.

God rest that Merry Gentleman, it would have hurt less to feed your Johnson to a blendomatic than to fuck with that guy.

Someone stupidly thought they didn't need to stop at the checkpoint once.

Running leap 10 feet to the car hood, with SMG barrel pressed against the drivers side windshield.

I remember being class demo for horribly painful joint locks, and the guy had me laughing so hard with his jokes I forgot it hurt....

ShazzieB

(16,437 posts)
34. Unnecessary.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:08 PM
Apr 16

Lawrence O'Donnell said that on Monday there were a couple dozen Trumpers outside the courthouse at most. He also said they were quiet and and didn't cause any trouble.

I don't think there are going to be enouh loonies to be a problem.

orangecrush

(19,585 posts)
37. The problem isn't at the courthouse
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:13 PM
Apr 16

Once they go home, they become soft targets for the same cadre of domestic terrorists that engaged in insurrection.

Think. Again.

(8,221 posts)
39. Yes, if the public finds out who they are...
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:06 PM
Apr 16

....they will be threatened while serving and hounded after serving by random dumbf*ck magats for long time.

Even people with similar names will become targets of his brainwashed minions.

RainCaster

(10,892 posts)
2. "Bailiff, whack his peepee"
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:06 PM
Apr 16

I'm so tired of this rich groping jackass getting away with so much shit that would have us in jail long ago. Why can't he be thrown into prison like anyone else while we wait for his jury to be sworn in? Just give him a suitable spanking over his bare orange encrusted butt and send him to bed early. We'll try again tomorrow and see if he can behave. If not, he goes back into jail for another day.

hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
3. Only six/12 jurors chosen, yet the jury foreperson has already been "named"...
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:06 PM
Apr 16

I'm not sure how that foreperson was chosen, but in most cases the full 12 would have voted on someone... Interesting

Jonah Bromwich
April 16, 2024, 3:56 p.m. ET10 minutes ago
10 minutes ago

Jonah BromwichReporting from the courthouse
The foreperson who was just selected — that’s juror one, the de facto leader of the group who will likely help steer deliberations — works in sales and enjoys the outdoors. He is originally from Ireland, but will help decide the former American president’s fate.

hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
5. Yes I know. I am only remarking on how unusual it is that a jury foreman has been 'named' at this juncture
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:12 PM
Apr 16

VERY unusual. And I'm sure TSF will have something to say about his being from Ireland originally.... Does that make him biased toward Biden?

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
6. Well oddly and uniquely enough
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:20 PM
Apr 16

*I* just got done serving as a juror in a (thankfully short) criminal trial today here in Philly and the foreman was also juror #1. But from day one, he was very blabby and assertive so everyone else just tossed it over to him.

hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
8. Well, there you go. I am notorious for destroying Defense Attorneys planned cases (unintentionally) in voir dire
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:28 PM
Apr 16

so, I seem to be 0/2 in recent years for actually serving. I'm willing, but either my profession or my honest answers to their questions-- make Defense attorneys (especially) all too willing to excuse me.

Unbeknownst to me, my last call for jury duty was for a murder trial wherein the defendant had argued for years with his elderly neighbor and one day following a verbal altercation went home to get his assault rifle and shot him dead--none of which I had any clue whatsoever. When I started being questioned about views on guns, I probably started off pretty noncontroversial, saying I felt guns were appropriate for self-defense --but then (unknowingly stepped in it) emphasized that self-defense did not mean non-imminent non-life-threatening danger--especially for those who go back to a car or home to get the gun before returning to use it. OH, MY. That was apparently exactly what had happened and the defense attorney lost all the blood flow to his face. They then went into Chambers (in the middle of voir dire) and the next thing I knew a very pissed-off judge indicated the trial would be rescheduled pending a psych eval. (Apparently the defense was to be self-defense, but I'd inadvertently shown the entire jury pool how ridiculous that would be-- ) All because of that uppity potential juror (me) anticipating their strategy. LOL (Two years later, the trial was held and he was duly convicted).

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
9. LOL
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:51 PM
Apr 16


They have been trying to get me for 44 years so they finally succeeded.

I know I had a couple of "almosts" including a civil asbestos case years ago, and since I was a chemist, both sides were chomping at the bit, but I warned them about my knowledge and I expect one side figured I would be too prejudicial. Another case was settled before our group stepped into the courtroom and we were dismissed right then and there. And yet another, I had to beg off due to work scheduling (being a supervisor at the time who was the only one around due to vacation schedules, I had to be there for administrative purposes and boy did I battle the judge on that but as a fed at the time in an understaffed agency, it was what it was).

All the other times I was either out of town or I was told the night before not to report or once in the jury assembly area, I was never called, and was dismissed at noon.

But they got me this time. Retired, so no "work" excuse (although I have been in PT a couple times a week for the past couple months but I wasn't sure if a doctor's note would fly based on what would basically be an activity of "sitting" ).

ShazzieB

(16,437 posts)
21. I've only been called for jury duty twice in my life.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:42 PM
Apr 16

The first time didn't count, because we had just moved, and the summons was from the county we had moved out of. I replied, "Sorry, I don't live there any more," and that was that.

The second time, I showed up but wasn't seated on the jury. At least I can say I know what it's like to fill out a jury questionnaire and go through voir dire, but I really hope I get to serve sometime. It's an important civic duty that I would love to carry out if I ever get the chance, but they almost never seem to draw my name.

Demobrat

(8,985 posts)
26. Before Covid I was called every year for 20 years.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:50 PM
Apr 16

One time a case was settled at the last minute and the judge said “see you next year” as we all got up to leave.

Here, once you complete jury duty once you are on the sucker list. I got to where I could plan for the summons. Every year on the anniversary of my last summons like clockwork.

bedazzled

(1,767 posts)
11. I've been thrown out of two jury pools
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 05:27 PM
Apr 16

First time made it clear that I wasn't down with giving the state a drug dealer's possessions without proof they were bought using drug money.

Second time I gave the impression I didn't like ambulance chaser lawyers. They got rid of me right away.

AllaN01Bear

(18,289 posts)
12. i looked at a defendant the wrong way and got let go. learned later that he did a plea deal. he wanted to
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:18 PM
Apr 16

see the whites of the jurors eyes . quote .

Demobrat

(8,985 posts)
16. I was kicked out of a jury pool where
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:33 PM
Apr 16

the defendant was accused of walking up to two people sitting in a car and shooting them dead through the window.

I told them what I thought about guns. Next thing I knew I was out on the sidewalk.

bedazzled

(1,767 posts)
33. That would have been a challenging jury
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:07 PM
Apr 16

I get called for jury duty every year it seems...

Been on 3 juries

One slip and fall ... hellishly boring

One drug possession ... cops messed up so we found them innocent

One attempted murder ... stabbing ... found them guilty

It's a great responsibility

LiberalFighter

(50,993 posts)
40. I got a call to serve by mail in federal court.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:11 PM
Apr 16

I called them to ask them if acoustics were bad in the court room.

I explained that I had a body type of hearing aid and trouble at times when there is a lot of space and bad acoustics. They excused me. I believe permanently. If I don't have my hearing aid properly placed in the pocket or clipped to my shirt there can also be clothing noise.

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
10. I just heard (I think it was on Meidas Touch?) that in NY state the
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 05:07 PM
Apr 16

first juror chosen automatically becomes the foreperson, regardless of age, education, communicating skills, etc.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
15. I heard the same thing. It does not matter who you are.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:32 PM
Apr 16

If you are the first juror chosen, for are the foreperson. Not sure how I feel about that rule.

NanaCat

(1,178 posts)
50. Two of the chosen are lawyers
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:58 AM
Apr 17

I can guarantee that if a lawyer serves on a jury, the chances of that person being the foreperson is close to 100%. Most people don't want to be the 'face' of a jury, especially not in a high-profile case like this, but lawyers don't mind--and it's the rare civilian who would disagree.

Most Americans are intimidated with the court system and are either followers or go-along-to-get-along types. I doubt any future selectees will care if someone became foreperson before they were seated. Less work for them!

piddyprints

(14,643 posts)
51. One of the videos I saw,
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 07:05 AM
Apr 17

Maybe Meidas Touch Michael Popock, said NY takes the first one as the foreperson. If that person is dismissed, they just all move up a chair.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
7. Probably the 1st time MFer has ever been in room with a person that voted against his pasty ass.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:25 PM
Apr 16

Get ready: you're going to get a fine and probation, MFer!

JT45242

(2,282 posts)
13. If she were my kids teacher, I would want a new teacher
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:26 PM
Apr 16

I taught for 20 years ....

If she doesn't know that TFG is facing other charges, then she is
A) headless and too stupid to teach
B) lying either because she wants to get TFG off or because she wants to convict

Since neither side asked questions that got her struck for cause,...I am left with headless idiot.

johne8408

(3 posts)
17. Trump Complaining about a Fair Jury Pool
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:33 PM
Apr 16

Tell that to the grandparents/great grandparents of the African Americans who were tried, for example, In Mississippi or Alabama in the 1940s. What a whiner!

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
18. This is a random selection of residents of Manhattan?
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:34 PM
Apr 16

Who ought to be relatively sophisticated and in touch with things, being one of the news capitals of the world.

It's kind of depressing, actually.

-- Mal

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
31. That's two words I'd never use to describe TFG
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:00 PM
Apr 16

Yes, he does "speak his mind," having no filter between his "inner voice" and his mouth, and from that we can discern much better, non-mysterious description: an obnoxiously self-obsessed, transactional, vindictive, willfully ignorant, reactionary, misogynistic, racist, unregistered sex offender who has lied and cheated his way through every aspect of his life.

Orrex

(63,217 posts)
36. Well, so is a heap of dog shit that you step on barefoot in the dark
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:12 PM
Apr 16

Until you recognize it for what it is, of course.

On the other hand, “mysterious?” Has any character in US history ever been less mysterious?

ancianita

(36,111 posts)
22. Thanks! Jury selection continues on Thursday. 'Til then the criminal defendant can go back to bed.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:44 PM
Apr 16


If I ever was in a jury pool, I don't know it; never had a shot at being on a jury, either in Florida or in Chicago, Illinois.
I learned from a Chicago lawyer that courts in Illinois/Chicago don't draw from residents of Chicago's Hyde Park on the South Side. He speculated that Hyde Parkers are considered too somethin somethin' liberal and smart, which, if he's right, sounds pretty discriminatory.

The New Yorkers chosen today sound a lot smarter than folks I knew in Chicago's Hyde Park. Glad they're jurors in this trial.

orangecrush

(19,585 posts)
25. President Trump speaks his mind, and I'd rather that than someone who's in office who you don't know what they're thinki
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:49 PM
Apr 16

"President Trump speaks his mind, and I'd rather that than someone who's in office who you don't know what they're thinking,"

What the ABSOLUTE FUCKING FUCK???!!!

THAT PASSES FOR IMPARTIAL?

And the rest of it sounds like bullshit.


StarryNite

(9,455 posts)
30. Oh and don't forget another one finds him "fascinating and mysterious".
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:58 PM
Apr 16

Sounds more like they're talking about James Bond.

orangecrush

(19,585 posts)
35. Guess the prosecution knows
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:08 PM
Apr 16

What they're doing.

Sure they would have mixed it if there was good reason.

I'm just so used to him getting special treatment I jump the gun.

Silver Gaia

(4,545 posts)
38. This and the one below ("fascinating and mysterious") sounds like
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:05 PM
Apr 16

crap I hear from my college students. They probably heard some influencer on TikTok say these things.

Many adults in America no longer know how to think for themselves. Reading comprehension is reduced to a paragraph (if it's simple), and they have no critical thinking skills whatsoever. Far too many say they get their news from social media and have no idea how to research or fact-check, and too many, especially women, say they aren't "interested" in politics so pay no attention to it.

Anecdotal, I know, but my students come from all over the country, not just one geographical area. It's dismaying. But at least the ones who pass my class leave with some critical thinking skills.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
27. Nicolle Wallace showed an interview
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:54 PM
Apr 16

with a potential juror who was excused. She said she'd never seen Trump in person, but when she did in court, he struck her as "just a guy". I think that's the biggest effect of this trial. Trump will be shown as "just a guy", not scary at all.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
42. "She was not aware that Trump faces criminal charges in other cases."
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:38 PM
Apr 16

What rock could she be living under?

Sorry....I find that statement not credible.

niyad

(113,474 posts)
45. The TEACHER does not know that he is facing other criminal charges???
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 16

Either she is a trumper, and lying through her teeth, or she is too f'n clueless to be "teaching", regardless of her subject or grade.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
49. He says he won't tolerate that, as he tolerates it.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:32 AM
Apr 17

As always.
I dont expect the judge to do anything substantive, no matter what his reputation.
Perhaps some fines but nothing that would ever make Trump think twice about misbehaving.
We will probably hear of Trump being chastised over and over again with warnings.

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