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BumRushDaShow

(129,311 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 07:54 AM Apr 18

House progressives release an agenda for 2025, with ideas for Biden to excite the base

Source: NBC News

April 18, 2024, 5:00 AM EDT


WASHINGTON — Top House progressives will unveil a sweeping agenda Thursday to lay down a marker for the policies they’ll push next year if Democrats win the 2024 election, from a higher minimum wage and strengthening antitrust laws to new federal benefits for seniors on Social Security and parents raising kids.

The Congressional Progressive Caucus agenda, first shared with NBC News, doubles as a blueprint of political advice for how it believes President Joe Biden can win over progressives and young voters who are uninspired by his re-election bid ahead of a rematch with former President Donald Trump.

“If the progressive base is not excited and enthusiastic — and if they don’t feel like we are trying to earn their votes and that they are important — then I think the horrific idea of a second Donald Trump presidency could become reality,” Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., the progressive caucus chair, said in an interview. “We cannot afford to let that happen. And we won’t.”

The seven-point agenda is heavily focused on economics and lighter on cultural issues, carrying echoes of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. It begins with provisions to boost the federal minimum wage to $17 per hour by 2028 and pass the PRO Act to strengthen unions, as well as other provisions, such as guaranteeing overtime pay. It includes policies to reduce the cost of living — by capping child care costs at 7% of income for all families; expanding Social Security benefits by closing tax loopholes; adding dental, vision and hearing benefits to Medicare; and enacting a series of policies to protect renters and make housing more affordable.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-progressives-release-agenda-2025-ideas-biden-excite-base-rcna147843



Link to House Congressional Progressive Caucus 2025 AGENDA (PDF viewer) - Congressional Progressive Caucus Progressive Proposition Agenda

Link to House Congressional Progressive Caucus 2025 AGENDA (PDF) - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24554620/progressive-caucus-agenda-for-2025.pdf
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House progressives release an agenda for 2025, with ideas for Biden to excite the base (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 18 OP
While I'm all for most progresive causes - werdna Apr 18 #1
Not true. Voltaire2 Apr 18 #3
We may have to call this one a tie - werdna Apr 18 #10
Unemployment and minimum wage hikes are inversely related. NanaCat Apr 18 #8
We may have to call this one a tie - werdna Apr 18 #11
Buffet is not a 'leading economist' he is a very Voltaire2 Apr 19 #12
Hmm - werdna Apr 19 #13
Love that they are proposing stuff that directly impacts peoples' daily lives jmbar2 Apr 18 #2
I know what will inspire, excite, and make the progressive base more enthusiastic Beastly Boy Apr 18 #4
Progressive populist reform is how to Voltaire2 Apr 18 #5
Raising the minimum wage should be presented as a way to end.... 70sEraVet Apr 18 #6
Lots of good ideas under each of the seven. KS Toronado Apr 18 #7
Anything on expanding the Supreme Court? Polybius Apr 18 #9

werdna

(481 posts)
1. While I'm all for most progresive causes -
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 08:02 AM
Apr 18

- it seems to me, historically speaking, any raise in the minimum wage results in corporate lay-off of wage earners and a raise in prices for products or services rendered. Without a mandate to freeze employment and prices, it's just part of a vicious cycle that seems to never end.

Voltaire2

(13,109 posts)
3. Not true.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 08:47 AM
Apr 18

There is no evidence of a direct linkage between increases in the minimum wage and job losses or inflation. Instead increases seem to have a mild stimulus effect, as low income workers immediately put the increase back into circulation by spending it.

werdna

(481 posts)
10. We may have to call this one a tie -
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 05:17 PM
Apr 18

- I'm finding stuff online saying both:

"according to leading economists—including famed billionaire investor Warren Buffett—minimum wages can actually raise unemployment by giving employers less incentive to hire and more incentive to automate and outsource tasks that low-wage employees previously performed.

Higher mandated minimum wages also force businesses to raise prices to maintain desired profit margins. Higher prices can lead to less business, which means less revenue and, therefore, less money to hire and pay employees. "
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080515/minimum-wages-can-raise-unemployment.asp

and: "Does a rise in the minimum wage lead to higher unemployment? Economists have been arguing this question for a long time, and the “fight for $15” movement has really heated up the debate on how a higher minimum wage changes employment. According to the basic economics 101 explanation, an increase in the minimum wage motivates more people to enter the labor market because they will earn more money. At the same time, an increase in the minimum wage increases firms’ costs and the quantity of labor demanded decreases (firms hire fewer workers). Now more people are looking for work than there are jobs available, which leads to unemployment. Although some economists believe this explanation, several studies have found that an increase in the minimum wage changes employment little, if at all."
Monthly Labor Review, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

NanaCat

(1,205 posts)
8. Unemployment and minimum wage hikes are inversely related.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:13 PM
Apr 18

More often than not.

Really:

The results were clear: these basic economic indicators show no correlation between federal minimum-wage increases and lower employment levels, even in the industries that are most impacted by higher minimum wages. To the contrary, in the substantial majority of instances (68 percent) overall employment increased after a federal minimum-wage increase. In the most substantially affected industries, the rates were even higher: in the leisure and hospitality sector employment rose 82 percent of the time following a federal wage increase, and in the retail sector it was 73 percent of the time. Moreover, the small minority of instances in which employment—either overall or in the indicator sectors—declined following a federal minimum-wage increase all occurred during periods of recession or near recession. That pattern strongly suggests that the few instances of such declines in employment are better explained by the overall national business cycle than by the minimum wage.


https://www.nelp.org/publication/raise-wages-kill-jobs-no-correlation-minimum-wage-increases-employment-levels/

'What is' conforms with reality. 'What one feels' frequently doesn't.

werdna

(481 posts)
11. We may have to call this one a tie -
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 05:17 PM
Apr 18

- I'm finding stuff online saying both:

"according to leading economists—including famed billionaire investor Warren Buffett—minimum wages can actually raise unemployment by giving employers less incentive to hire and more incentive to automate and outsource tasks that low-wage employees previously performed.

Higher mandated minimum wages also force businesses to raise prices to maintain desired profit margins. Higher prices can lead to less business, which means less revenue and, therefore, less money to hire and pay employees. "
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080515/minimum-wages-can-raise-unemployment.asp

and: "Does a rise in the minimum wage lead to higher unemployment? Economists have been arguing this question for a long time, and the “fight for $15” movement has really heated up the debate on how a higher minimum wage changes employment. According to the basic economics 101 explanation, an increase in the minimum wage motivates more people to enter the labor market because they will earn more money. At the same time, an increase in the minimum wage increases firms’ costs and the quantity of labor demanded decreases (firms hire fewer workers). Now more people are looking for work than there are jobs available, which leads to unemployment. Although some economists believe this explanation, several studies have found that an increase in the minimum wage changes employment little, if at all."
Monthly Labor Review, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Voltaire2

(13,109 posts)
12. Buffet is not a 'leading economist' he is a very
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:15 AM
Apr 19

rich investor. Your source doesn’t pass the bullshit test I it’s first sentence.

werdna

(481 posts)
13. Hmm -
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:38 AM
Apr 19

- "Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. The son of US congressman and businessman Howard Buffett, he developed an interest in business and investing during his youth. He entered the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in 1947 before graduating from the University of Nebraska at 19. He went on to graduate from Columbia Business School"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

Since he performs one or more of the following, I think he - at the very least, technically qualifies:
"Economists typically do the following:

Research economic issues related to education, the labor force, international trade, and other topics
Conduct surveys and collect data
Analyze data using mathematical models, statistical tools, and other software
Interpret and forecast trends, such as of financial markets
Advise businesses, governments, and individuals on problems related to fiscal policy or other economic topics
Present research in tables, graphs, and articles for academic journals, government publications, and other media"
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/economists.htm#tab-2

Beastly Boy

(9,393 posts)
4. I know what will inspire, excite, and make the progressive base more enthusiastic
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 08:47 AM
Apr 18

It is, to quote Pramila Jayapal out of context, the prospect that a "second Donald Trump presidency could become reality", and a consequent prospect of the progressive agenda for 2025 not being worth the paper it was written on.

If this doesn't inspire progressives and young voters, nothing will.

Why do progressives expect to be "won over" by Biden to get their instinct of self-preservation to kick in? Weren't the consequences of 2016 exciting enough?

70sEraVet

(3,508 posts)
6. Raising the minimum wage should be presented as a way to end....
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:32 AM
Apr 18

the government-subsidising of wealthy corporations that fail to pay a living wage to their employees.
Without the government stepping in, to provide food stamps, welfare, and Section Eight, most low-wage earners and their families would be starving and homeless.
Those Corporations are even paying a lower tax rate than most middle-class families, shifting the responsibility of keeping their own employees alive onto the shoulders of the middle class.

KS Toronado

(17,293 posts)
7. Lots of good ideas under each of the seven.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 18

I. Lower the Cost of Living
II. Boost Wages and Worker Power
III. Advance Justice
IV. Protect Our Planet and Our People
V. Make Our Democracy Work
VI. Break Corporations’ Hold on Our Economy
VII. Provide World-Class Public Education

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