It will have to counter and then the US and Europe are likely to get drawn in.
All western leaders begged Netanyahu not to this.

All they do is beg. (Then send money and weapons.)

And the ethnic cleansing of Palestine grinds on.

What gives here?

As far as I know, Israel has not "ethnically cleansed" the 20% of its citizens who are Arabs. But, it is fighting a war against the Iranian backed terrorists who have and still are attacking Israel.

That does not mean that I think Israel should be attacking Iran now. This attack on Iran also does not mean that the US is automatically drawn into the war. Biden has stated that we would not be part of any Israeli attack in Iran.

Most call it genocide. And killing over 13,000 children is not self defense.

This is now what Israel will be famous for. Thirteen thousand dead children. Killed for being Palestinian.

You are entitled to your opinion on which side, if any, you support in a war.

But, it is a war being fought between Israel and Hamas, who initiated the war.

War causes death, destruction, and famine. It causes people both sides to attack each other to destroy the enemy's military strength.

Palestinian supporters do not like to admit it, but the Hamas war headquarters are in underground tunnels and bunkers beneath (and sometimes inside) civilian sites. The tunnels are real. The locations are real. It is intentional on the part of Hamas in order to protect themselves at the expense of their own civilians.

I do not understand why people who are concerned about Gazan civilians do not direct their anger at the Hamas cowards who hide behind civilians to save their own murderous hides.

And maimed for life thousands more. Israel did this. Israel. And everybody knows it. Surviving Palestinian childen are being intentionally starved to death as we speak.
Is that not enough revenge yet? Shall it be genocide then, or just ethnic cleansing?

children is because Defense Minister Gallant said at the beginning of the attack on Gaza that Israel would deprive all of Gaza of water, food, fuel, and electricity. They have only allowed minimal amounts of food and other supplies into the strip since then in over six months. 1/3 of infants in Gaza are currently in danger of death from starvation.

When small children and infants are starved, neither their bodies or their brains will develop fully. So even if they survive, their futures have been stolen.

Having read your whitewash of Israeli culpability, one might think that your accusation of basis might be a projection.

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for the past six months.

Where are the demonstrations demanding Hamas to be held accountable for its role in the genocide?

Or is it ethnic cleansing?

For a reason

It is for history, and not for any of us, to determine whether or not it will be kind and to whom.

In the mean time, a less presumptuous matter remains unaddressed: Where are the demonstrations demanding Hamas to be held accountable for its role in the "genocide" of Gazan Palestinians, however peculiar your definition of the term might be?

"So far" is a pretty lousy predictor of what's to come, regardless of whether one agrees with your read or not.

Not sure you wanted to highlight this oddity.

Netanyahu listens only to Smotrich and Ben-Givr.

long before this Israeli attack inside Iran that the US would not get involved if Israel made such an attack.

He did say we would defend Israel. The question on
the table tonight is what does that mean and what
are the limits in that defense.

an attack on Iran. I did not hear Biden say that we would defend Israel if they attacked Iran. Got a link?

You will find it in this CNN article from Sunday where the administration and the G7 speak
of being there for Israel. I cannot imagine that they would not. If Israel is attacked, and asks
for help, we will give it.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/politics/biden-netanyahu-israel-iran-response/index.html

but not a specific promise to defend Israel if they retaliate against Iran and Iran retaliated back a second time.

I an not saying that it would be a bad thing to continue to defend Israel against further Iranian attacks, just that I didn't see or hear a specific promise by Biden to defend Israel militarily if Israel returned Iran's attack. My impression was that Biden was working with allies to develop coordinated diplomatic plans against Iran for the defense of Israel. Something like a united front on sanctions.

The question is do the counter attacks spin out of control?

That's lovely fantasy. Of course we will get dragged into this, one way or another.

Fucking Assholes.

The man just doesn't have the skills to negotiate the narrow path between the Rock and the hard place. Israel needs to retaliate for Iran's attempt at terror, of course. But Bibi is going about it in nearly the stupidest way possible. I don't think he understands the idea of "in the time and manner of our choosing."

It's almost as if he wants a bigger war. I suspect he sees all this as his last opportunity to damage Israel's enemies before the window closes on his career. So he's giving it the old kitchen sink treatment.

bulldoze their homes for the last, what? 30 years?

And lots of them are actually hoping for that, because it’ll end with the second coming?
Along those lines how long till the nutjobs declare trump as the messiah? I think some already are.

The rest of us need to survive this giant game of chicken or deal with the consequences of letting desperate men set the global agenda.

Now that we have another tit to work with, the cycle can continue apace. Better hurry up, we've got a lot of tits to get through!

The Israeli military carried out an airstrike inside Iran, an Israeli official said Friday, in retaliation for an Iranian barrage of missiles and drones launched against Israel. It was not clear what damage the strike caused, but the official — who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters — said it was intended to signal to Iran that Israel had the ability to strike inside the country.

https://wapo.st/3Q9W3si

Gifted article. Evolving story.

Why? Because I do not think the ones in charge there really want a full scale war but because they have to save face as well keep their population from thinking their weak they have to do something.
Then they can say "See, we are strong and can strike at Israel any time we want."
Meanwhile the ones in charge in Israel can tell their people "See we are strong and can protect you!!"
In other words its the same shit as decades ago.

It's like a couple of squabbling spouses trying to see who gets the last word in on their latest toxic argument. Only instead of throwing dishes at each other, they're throwing missiles.