Traitors in the house had voted funding for Ukraine months ago.

I support that.

Putin wants territory - Novorussia & Crimea. Ukraine would have to cede everything Russia's captured to this point.

And an even more insatiable lust for more of Ukraine. He’s already said he plans to move the capital of Russia to Kyiv…tell ya anything?

A rump Ukraine's admission into NATO would largely end that threat. That could be a condition of ceding territory.

When did Putin say he wanted to relocate the capital from Moscow to Kyiv?

The financial sanctions are really hurting Russia and so are the Ukrainian drone attacks
on oil refineries and now energy infrastructure.

Money is going to be a big issue for Russia and soon.

on Russia's terms, which isn't a negotiated agreement at all.
But thanks for the Putin talking points.

Otherwise, a negotiated agreement seems highly unlikely.

Keep in mind that Putin is not only targeting Republicans with their propaganda. It is just that Republicans have been more than willing to embrace such propaganda in return for Russian Sock Puppet support.

it’s past time. they did it for israel. do it for ukraine.

It’s a slippery slope. Very very dangerous.

We're not. We were barely sending bullets.

Vietnam was a civil war, one which we should have stayed out of, Ukraine is not a civil war, it's a war of aggression by Russia and if Putin isn't stopped in Ukraine, then the rest of Europe is in danger of Russian aggression, which would require US troops to intervene.

Equating Vietnam to Ukraine is just ridiculous.

Came here to post that but first did a find for "viet" and voila!

My father was US military flying combat in VN,
but Newsweek magazine said there were only "advisors" in Viet Nam.

OK sure.

I was mostly keeping up with the news. And posters here like Tommy C.

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From Johnson to Moscow Marge they are not worth a damn, but they do love that Russian money.

In the runup to Russia's invasion I pondered this and began to worry about the terrible consequences of NATO sending troops to aid Ukraine and prevent Russia swallowing them up. I also worried about the even worse consequences of NOT sending troops. This may come to that time, which is called "The Devil's Alternative". We lost over 58,000 men and women in Vietnam with hundreds of thousands wounded and scarred mentally in a fight for "freedom". If it comes to this, this would be a far more worthy fight for liberty. Is Ukraine's government corruption free? Hell no. But their President has clearly demonstrated that they can achieve that goal by his leadership during this conflict.

The main difference, Vietnam was about “nation building.” Not so in Ukraine.

Vietnam was not a NATO nation.

Ukraine will never give in. all the EU knows it’s imperative Russia be stopped. Poland, France, Finland and other EU/NATO nations say they will put boots on the ground in Ukraine if they cannot resoundingly defeat Russia on the battlefield. They know putin…they know what’s coming if they don’t stop it.

We stuck our nose into Vietman’s affairs when it didn’t belong. Ukraine is not currently a NATO nation, but it will be. we are coming to the defense of our fellow NATO allies right now because if we don’t, there will be boots on the ground. Russia knows they do not stand a chance in a war against the US and NATO.