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BumRushDaShow

(129,587 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:01 AM Apr 22

From Sin City to the City of Angels, building starts on high-speed rail line

Source: ABC News/AP

April 22, 2024, 12:17 AM


LAS VEGAS -- Work is set to begin Monday on a $12 billion high-speed passenger rail line between Las Vegas and the Los Angeles area, with officials projecting millions of ticket-buyers will be boarding trains by 2028.

Brightline West, whose sister company already operates a fast train between Miami and Orlando in Florida, aims to lay 218 miles (351 kilometers) of new track between a terminal to be built just south of the Las Vegas Strip and another new facility in Rancho Cucamonga, California. Almost the full distance is to be built in the median of Interstate 15, with a station stop in San Bernardino County’s Victorville area.

In a statement, Brightline Holdings founder and Chairperson Wes Edens called the moment “the foundation for a new industry.”

Brightline aims to link other U.S. cities that are too near to each other for flying between them to make sense and too far for people to drive the distance, Edens said. CEO Mike Reininger has said the goal is to have trains operating in time for the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles in 2028.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/sin-city-city-angels-building-starts-high-speed-109484497

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LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
1. Not to be dismissive here but Rancho Cucamonga is not part of Los Angeles
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:08 AM
Apr 22

I am glad to hear this is getting built but there is some very deceptive marketing and reporting happening with this update.

Jerry2144

(2,115 posts)
2. Correct
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:23 AM
Apr 22

There is still the connection issue between Rancho Cucamonga and the greater LA area to deal with. I’d ride the train from Vegas to So Cal. But would have to figure out how to get to my final destination in Anaheim, Ventura, or Long Beach. If it’s an auto train, then sign me up. Otherwise let me know if there will be connections to other parts of So Cal or to the train system feeding the state

Jerry2144

(2,115 posts)
5. Thanks
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:31 AM
Apr 22

It looks like this will be hear when all the inter connections are done. But of this first run is the only part, I think ridership will suffer.

Funny how that highway is the one Sammy Hagar can’t drive 55 on. But traffic has changed through the years. You do the trip early enough, on Xmas morning, and the trip could be made in three hours by car.

BumRushDaShow

(129,587 posts)
3. "Not to be dismissive here but Rancho Cucamonga is not part of Los Angeles"
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:25 AM
Apr 22

Probably because the actual "urban" portions are not going to be "high speed" (due to a variety of reasons not unlike here on the east coast where the "high speed" Acela is not "high speed" in and just outside of the cities along the Northeast corridor), nor are part of that contract.

It's just like if I fly to Cincinnati, OH from Philly, I am NOT landing in Cincinnati, OH, I'm landing in Covington, KY. which could be considered "deceptive" perhaps?

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
6. True! Many cities have airports that are in the suburbs. However most cities have train stations downtown.
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:36 AM
Apr 22

Constructing a high speed rail line through the roughly 40 miles between RC and DTLA would undoubtedly require far more money and time than what is needed to build it between RC and LV.

Let’s say you live west of DTLA. Would you rather drive the ~1 hour to RC and catch a train to LV or would rather fight the traffic to drive to LAX to hop on a short flight to LV?

This project is great for San Bernardino and Riverside counties but less so for those in LA and Ventura counties and maybe a wash for those in Orange County.

BumRushDaShow

(129,587 posts)
7. They have to work out the connector stations
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 11:58 AM
Apr 22

We have similar here where there is an auto-train going down to Florida along the east coast. But that train boards from the D.C. area, so people here in Philly would need to drive the 2.5 (or more if going the speed limit ) hours from Philly to D.C. and then load the car onto the train.

I had mentioned in a thread on a potential Texas bullet train project here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143222802

where you have those "speed/segment" issues in and around the urban areas along the 450+ mile route of the Amtrak Acela on the east coast along the Northeast Corridor http://www.realtransit.org/nec7.php

I am sure they are going to do connecting portions (probably not this company). But for whoever gets the contract for the urban parts/connectors in both CA and NV, I'll just say good luck!!!!

ripcord

(5,540 posts)
9. The high speed rail train will run out of the Rancho Cucamonga Metrorail station
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 02:53 PM
Apr 22

The this connects the Vegas train to the system that services SoCal from LA to San Diego, I don't think they need anything else.

BumRushDaShow

(129,587 posts)
10. Okay
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 03:18 PM
Apr 22

As long as there is some kind of connecting line...

It's just like before I retired and early on (before I started driving down to D.C. metro for meetings/training) I caught Amtrak to New Carrolton past Baltimore and then connected with the D.C. Metro "Orange Line" to Metro Center, where I could hop the "Red Line" (or other lines) from there to where I needed to go in the D.C. metro area (vs going all the way to downtown D.C.'s Amtrak Union Station.

I haven't been on the L.A. systems but have been on the San Francisco metro area BART.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,642 posts)
11. Monday through Friday, eighteen Metrolink trains per day serve Rancho Cucamonga in each direction.
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 03:40 PM
Apr 22

Takes an hour-ten, hour-fifteen.

Weekends, eight trains per day serve Rancho Cucamonga in each direction.
 
https://metrolinktrains.com/globalassets/schedules/timetables/2023/web_alllines_23-11-06_spreads.pdf

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
8. Google Maps shows an $8 metrolink ride from LA to Rancho Cucamonga
Mon Apr 22, 2024, 12:03 PM
Apr 22

to cover the 40 urban miles to get to the station from downtown LA. Getting around the vastly spread out LA area is it's own challenging adventure so I doubt they have the investment capital to build there.

https://www.brightlinewest.com/overview/project

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