2016 Hillarys emails and 2020 Sleepy Joe rhetoric.

Now its " Trumps Classified Bathroom Vault and Sleepy Defendant.

You cant not even makeup this in 2016, yet it has happened.

I still dont get about Hillarys email thing... its her emails..... big whoopie do.

It was illegal to have a private server, although hilariously this was evident all through members of the TFG's administration. The point is to prevent even any accidental access to classified information or even a mention of it. Public servers are very vulnerable to hacking and private ones can be as well.

Hillary Clinton was very seasoned in correct policy and either should have known better or should not have taken the chance that this could come back to bite her - women always have to try harder!

TFG and company just didn't care, the way they flaunted every rule and protocol.

The same goes for cell phones.

specific in Nov. 2014, AFTER she was out of office. And, actually, that new rule stated that any business that was on a private server had to be turned over to the government within 20 days. Nothing was found in her emails ( all 55,000+ pages of them) that was correctly classified (state retroactively reclassified some) that was a problem.

Previous Secretaries of State, including rice and powell, used private servers, and nobody seemed to care.

And one more thing. Hillary's private server, set up by hers and Bill's security details, was so secure that, unlike DoD, and DNC, and some other entities, it was NOT hacked.

(Although I did remember most of this (other than the specific date of the change AFTER she left office), I just went back to reread some of the relevant information.

and grabbed lots of unclassified state department emails ( along with lots of other stuff) since Microsoft was hosting their email.

This was recent, and way after the Clinton matter. So state trusted Microsoft. Much effing good that did.

Clinton didn't do anything wrong, because it was not illegal to use a private server when she had one as SoS--just like Powell and Rice did before her.

Full bloody f'n stop.

Was there any government business emails? She is a private citizen after work and her private emails are hers. This was a politucal fishing expedition and turned into a political battle cry. Nothing was there but invasion of her and her familys privacy rights.

That she set up on the advice of former GQP SoS Colin Powell. It was what he learned from his predecessor, Kindasleezy Rice.

But IOKIYAR, and never for a Democrat.

Smoking Gun......They should have immediately, upon finding records still in his possession, had searches of every location and business of Trump..............

just be a blanket warrant across states unless there's sufficient probable cause across states for searching multiple locations. The later superseding indictment has co-defendants, which implies that the FBI didn't have the probable cause at the time of recovering MAL boxes until later.

But there's more to the espionage part of the case than physical documents. I daresay that there is even more serious communications evidence obtained by Jack Smith through the FISA court -- which can provide more concrete info (confirmed by the intelligence community) re where or to whom some of the missing top secret classified docs actually went.

He was selling them or using them for influence.

who some of them were that he sold to. One of the ways he made money off the presidency.

I am not a lawyer, but I would think that something involving National Security would Trump (pun intended) anything else.....

Must apply to Search Warrants across state lines, because I know of several cases here in Colorado where they did issue warrants for a perps residence, all of his friends residences, and even his parents house's crawl space.........

I think that the Trump Cabal has used our legal system to their benefit over and over. It seems the entire Republican Party has worked intently at making a mockery of our legal system..........

We have all witnessed how the Rich's attorney's get them off with little or no punishment, time and time again......It is pathetic to watch.

"Explain this to me like I'm a 5 year-old."

Someone DID explain this to TFG like he's a 5 year-old.

He still didn't get it.

This is the easiest of all his cases to prove. The evidence is utterly damning. IT'S ALL THERE. Plus, it deals with the highest classification level of documents - documents that should be handled with the utmost care, ESPECIALLY by a "president." It's a slam-dunk case.

Except for Cannon. She is going to tank the case and a corrupt motherfucker will get away with stealing classified material while others who even hinted at improper handling of classified material rot in prison.

likely that others are copies of original records that were already being archived. The improper retention, storage, or dissemination of classified information isn't the same as whether it is archived.

I retired in 2020 after more than 48 years in the DoD. That time included a bit over 20 years in the military, followed by 28 in the civil service. I had a checklist of about 50 items to complete before turning in my badge and leaving work for the last time. Given COVID protocols and the availability of others needed to coordinate some of the checklist, I completed it over about a month.

Over time, I accumulated about 10 linear feet of documents that accompanied me wherever I was assigned. Mostly, they were copies of references I used frequently. One of my retirement checklist items was reviewing these documents to determine if any were original records that needed to be archived. It took about 5 hours to complete. Ultimately, I held nothing that needed archiving. But probably more than 90% were classified, so they weren't going home with me. Everything went into burn bags for destruction.

We all had annual records handling training. A copy can become an archivable record if an office chief (they were all SES where I was) annotated additional information not archived elsewhere. I didn't have to worry about original classification or declassification decisions because a separate office documented those.

It would have been different violations if I had intentionally taken any classified document out of a secure building without authorization or if I had intentionally retained classified information, stored it in an unapproved area, or disclosed it to anyone without the clearance or need to know, or transmitted it on a system not accredited for the classification or access level. A defense to the charges would be that the information had been declassified or not legally classified in the first place.

With respect to the records charges, an element of proof is that they were not copies of records already sent to the National Archives. On the classified charges, an element of proof is that after he left office, the documents he retained had been properly classified and had not been declassified. As always, the burden of proof rests with the prosecution. No defendant in the US is required to prove their innocence.

I have posted multiple times about how every agency has been required to have a “Records Control” process/schedule which lays out which types of content are considered “records” that should be retained and for how long. In my office, they gathered these quarterly and the admin staff would box the materials up (printed stuff and electronic on CD or DVD), catalog/label it, and then transport it to the big National Archives warehouse here in Philly.

And yup we had mandatory annual training on managing and maintaining “records”.

The Office of the White House had such a schedule during the previous administration but it was obviously ignored.