Judge tells Trump lawyer he's 'losing all credibility with the court'
Source: The Guardian
Things are not going well for Donald Trump as his lawyer, Todd Blanche, continues to make the claim that re-posting doesnt violate the gag order.
Judge Merchan said:
Mr Blanche youre losing all credibility, I have to tell you right now
Youre losing all credibility with the court. Is there any other argument you want to make?
Merchan is reserving decision on the prosecutions contempt request.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/apr/23/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-updates
Trump lawyer Todd Blanche is saying that seven of the alleged 10 gag order violations are not, because theyre just re-posts.
Its not making a mockery of the gag order, your honor its a close call, Blanche said. "Re-posting an article from a news site or a news program we dont believe are a violation of the gag order."
Judge Juan Merchan asked whether theres any case law on that.
I dont have any case laws, your honor, its just common sense.
riversedge
(70,310 posts)some more. Including Trump!!
riversedge
(70,310 posts)what an idiot
35m ago10.39 EDT
Victoria Bekiempis
Trump lawyer Todd Blanche is saying that seven of the alleged 10 gag order violations are not, because theyre just re-posts.
Its not making a mockery of the gag order, your honor its a close call, Blanche said.
Re-posting an article from a news site or a news program
we dont believe are a violation of the gag order.
Judge Juan Merchan asked whether theres any case law on that.
I dont have any case laws, your honor, its just common sense.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/apr/23/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-6627c7bf8f0839cf006b0f60#block-6627c7bf8f0839cf006b0f60
speak easy
(9,320 posts)Telling the judge he doesn't have any common sense.
ShazzieB
(16,539 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Does he really believe that TSF didn't violate the gag order with the reports, or was he just throwing stuff at the wall to see if anything sticks? I can't help wondering.
TBF
(32,102 posts)Can you imagine being Trump's attorney and trying to put a positive spin on all the crap he does?
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)This is what he believes, therefore he is stating his view.
Its just common sense.
riversedge
(70,310 posts)Even if trump gets the max fine it would only be $10,000
That is pocket change. damn
1h ago10.12 EDT
Victoria Bekiempis
Victoria Bekiempis
Prosecutor Christopher Conroy has just said that prosecutors are not seeking jail time for Trumps violations of the gag order.
We are not yet seeking incarceratory penalty. Defendant seems to be angling for that
We are asking the court to impose the maximum $1,000 fine for each violation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/apr/23/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-6627c1798f08f2c42148273c#block-6627c1798f08f2c42148273c
PSPS
(13,617 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,474 posts)and Trump immediately attacked the judge online, demanding him to recuse himself.
Anyone of us would be in a jail cell LONG before this point. I begin to think our criminal justice system in institutionally incapable of punishing the rich/powerful. They just don't want to set a precedent that the rich are subject to the law as the rest of us proles.
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AllaN01Bear
(18,443 posts)AdamGG
(1,295 posts)Removing Trump's tongue and fingers could resolve a lot of issues.
KS Toronado
(17,344 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,453 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)$10000 is not a consequence.
He is still being allowed to run roughshod over the legal system with no consequences.
This judge is big on warnings and impotent on punishments, as are all of them.
If hes found guilty he will be given a few months probation at worst.
Our justice system is useless regarding Trump.
EndlessWire
(6,570 posts)He is the Judge. He has a responsibility to see that all the legalities are carried out without mishap. This defendant knows how to manipulate the system, and has lawyers who have surrendered their autonomy and are just letting Trump tell them how to proceed.
Jeopardy has attached. The Judge probably would like to take Trump out back and just shoot him. This Judge has a body with nerves, emotions, and reacts to stress the same as everyone does. But, he can't let anything pull him off center just so Trump can yell, "New Trial" to the Appellates, or worse.
He's going to levy a fine. That's what he is thinking about. He knows that no matter what amount he levies, Trump will appeal. So, maybe...
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Or Trump would be able to screw up the whole case.
Its the system that needs work.
There should be some serious way to control him but there isnt.
The problem is that the case could possibly be compromised as a result.
Now that Trumps tactics are so public, other wealthy assholes may emulate him. There should be some discussion about the system in legal circles to see if there could be changes made to handle cases like this.
onenote
(42,768 posts)So do you think the DA -- who is the one who chose to bring this case -- a case that may experts think is aggressive insofar as it seeks to establish that Trump committed a felony -- is allowing Trump to run roughshod over the legal system with no consequences?
TheRickles
(2,083 posts)edbermac
(15,947 posts)Its a Trump lawyer. They have no credibility to begin with.
PSPS
(13,617 posts)"Justice" amerikkan style.
0rganism
(23,971 posts)Or, perhaps, jail time remains a consideration. Maybe take away his social media access for a week, see what happens.