Blinken to Hamas: Accept Israel's 'extraordinarily generous' Gaza truce proposal
Source: Reuters
"RIYADH, April 29 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged Hamas on Monday to swiftly accept Israel's latest and "extraordinarily generous" proposal for a Gaza truce to secure a release of hostages, amid a diplomatic drive to end the war between Israel and Hamas.
Hamas negotiators were expected to meet Qatari and Egyptian mediators in Cairo on Monday to deliver a response to the phased truce proposal Israel presented at the weekend, ahead of a threatened Israeli assault on the southern border city of Rafah.
"The only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas. They have to decide and they have to decide quickly," Blinken said at a special meeting of the World Economic Forum held in the Saudi capital Riyadh.
"I'm hopeful that they will make the right decision."
A source briefed on the talks said Israel's proposal entailed a deal to accept the release of fewer than 40 of the roughly 130 hostages believed to be still held in exchange for freeing Palestinians jailed in Israel, and a second phase of a truce consisting of a "period of sustained calm" - Israels compromise response to a Hamas demand for permanent ceasefire."
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-secretary-state-antony-blinken-arrives-saudi-arabia-2024-04-29/
The fact that Hamas broke the ceasefire by executing October 7 attack which started this war, it is a generous offer.
Both Israel and hamas are under international pressure.
If hamas doesn't accept the offer, they are gambling on bringing other Arab countries into the conflict, which is questionable.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,544 posts)its time for them to either put up or shut up.
Of course we all know that if HAMAs rejects the proposal, it'll be blamed on Israel for some reason and if or when HAMAs violates the cease fire, again, it'll be blamed on Israel.
JohnSJ
(92,554 posts)will probably not happen, since the Iran attack over a week ago did not cause much Arab support, and in fact Jordan actually was involved in helping to blunt the attack.
I suspect most Arab regimes in the area are anxious to contain the conflict, since their governments are vulnerable to radical Islamic elements.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,544 posts)I just don't see other Arab nations getting involved, they've so far shown a lack of interest in expanding the war.
Richard D
(8,827 posts)They broke the truce on Oct. 7.
They kidnapped the hostages.
They continue to hold the innocent hostages.
They have promised future Oct 7 terror attacks on Israel.
They continue to attack Israel with rockets.
They have refused all offers.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,544 posts)FakeNoose
(32,918 posts)Hamas should be seen for what they really are - committed to sacrificing the Palestinian people on their behalf.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,831 posts)charge of negotiating? Bias anyone?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,544 posts)then who?
Pres. Biden seems to think so.
I think I'll rely on Pres. Biden's judgement.
JohnSJ
(92,554 posts)the negotiations, Saudi Arabia, and other negotiators are not bias?
The problem isn't bias, it is if the parties involved are willing to compromise.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,544 posts)it remains to be seen if HAMAs is, I have my doubts.
We'll find out soon enough.
sarisataka
(18,947 posts)if not the SoS?
Lancero
(3,020 posts)Polybius
(15,540 posts)He has been exceptionally good at his job.
JoseBalow
(2,639 posts)that Jews in the diaspora (Jews who live outside of
Israel) are ultimately more loyal to Israel or a secret
Jewish cabal than the country in which they have
citizenship.
This false trope has been employed as long as Jews
have lived beyond the land of Israel, but it became
popularized through the stab-in-the-back myth
after WWI, when German Jews were falsely blamed
for betraying German soldiers and contributing
to Germanys defeat. The Soviet Union widely
employed this trope in anti-Zionist propaganda that
accused Russian Jews of not only being more loyal
to Israel than the Soviet Union, but also of having
an allegiance to Nazi fascism. Today, we see this
trope invoked on college campuses when Jewish
students are asked to denounce or de-legitimize
Israel.
FakeNoose
(32,918 posts)It's his job as Secretary of State and he has the full trust of President Biden.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,523 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,873 posts)And Israel was blamed for it by anti-Jewish protestors.
Remember, the only thing Israel can do according to all the protestors is either dissolve or commit mass suicide.
They didn't and don't care when Jewish blood is spilled.
moniss
(4,274 posts)sounds about as definitive as "some day". A cease-fire built on terms as vague as that is one that will not hold because the definition can be anything anybody wants to claim it to be. But people want vague things like this for their own purposes. A proposal with more defined terms such as : Israel to withdraw completely by a date certain, Hamas to withdraw by that same date and an international peacekeeping force is put in place. That would be an example.
Simply saying the equivalent of "I might decide not to shoot you tomorrow but there may come a time" is a garbage proposal. After all of the back and forth and meetings and conferences the best that could be done is "give us a few hostages, we'll give you some prisoners and for awhile we might not shoot you"? I think grade school kids on the playground could come up with that in 5 minutes or less.
But then again this may be a combination of lousy media (always a safe bet) and the parties involved in the negotiations not disclosing all of the intricacies and terms that are going on here. For example is there any financial component involved here to any party in any way? Is there any "assurance of safe haven" involved in order to alleviate concern about targeted assassinations? Is any country stepping forward and providing support in some way?
But from a negotiation standpoint it may be counter-productive to make big public statements to the effect that your "proposal" is wonderfully generous which automatically is publicly saying your opponent is a fool if they don't accept it. Putting out a proposal with that is about as productive as if Hamas/Qatar/Egypt put out a proposal to Israel with a statement like "here is the only proposal Israel deserves". The rhetoric characterizing the proposal and making implications by way of the rhetoric is unnecessary and usually doesn't help. Some think it nudges the other party but it also can drive things the other way.
This could also just be a "cover" for the coming assault on Rafah. You make a proposal that you know has been turned down before. Then when it gets rejected again you say "hey it's not our fault, we tried" and then it's bombs away. I don't think it was ever the intent of either party to do anything but fight on with each other. I think the "lulls" are planned rearmament periods by all sides. I know that sounds pessimistic but when you go deep and read a great amount of the actions of the parties back and forth over the many, many decades you come away finding little in the way of sincere, honorable conduct towards each other. Not at the individual citizen level so much as the ones in power. Seems to be the SOP here baked in over history to fight till the sun burns away.