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brooklynite

(95,183 posts)
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:04 AM May 1

Police respond to UCLA after violent clashes break out amid dueling demonstrations

Source: KABC Los Angeles

WESTWOOD, LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Police responded to UCLA early Wednesday morning after violent clashes erupted between competing protest groups at a pro-Palestinian encampment on the campus.

People were beaten and hit with sticks as the clashes between pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli protesters went on for roughly three hours before police intervened. At times, protesters would use barricades as weapons.

Before police arrived, a group piled on one person who lay on the ground, kicking and beating them until others pulled them out of the scrum.

"The violence unfolding this evening at UCLA is absolutely abhorrent and inexcusable," Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass posted on X. Later in the morning, Bass said she would be returning to Los Angeles early in wake of the incident. She was in Washington D.C.


Read more: https://abc7.com/clashes-break-out-at-ucla-amid-dueling-demonstrations-between-pro-palestinian-and-pro-israeli-protesters/14749246/




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Police respond to UCLA after violent clashes break out amid dueling demonstrations (Original Post) brooklynite May 1 OP
It's only a matter of time . . . Richard D May 1 #1
Violent Clashes at UCLA independent think May 1 #2
Violence is not the answer, nor is illegally blockading or vandalizing UCLA. SunSeeker May 1 #3
""Historic"? LOL. It's under a 100 years old. muriel_volestrangler May 1 #4
You think it's okay to do that? Sugarcoated May 1 #5
Apparently. As long as the vandalism supports their ideology. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #8
No, because it's graffiti, but it's a minor point. muriel_volestrangler May 1 #9
Why not make a SIGN with their "passion"? Why deface a building? SunSeeker May 1 #12
It is one of LA's oldest buildings, and the symbol of UCLA,. Tagging it is offensive. SunSeeker May 1 #6
It's graffiti. It's an inoffensive slogan, and will be easily removed. muriel_volestrangler May 1 #10
It's not easily removed, it's not chalk. And it's offensive to anyone who cares about UCLA like I do. SunSeeker May 1 #11
What would your reaction be if was your house that was covered with grafitti? MichMan May 1 #13
It's not covered. You obviously haven't noticed I'm not defending them muriel_volestrangler May 1 #14
It's not "trivial." They defaced the historic symbol of UCLA, not some random "public building." SunSeeker May 2 #16
In December 2022, Seattle arrested a pair of notorious, longtime Grafitti Artists: Satn & Eagr. maxsolomon May 2 #23
Does this look like there was grafitti on only a few spaces? MichMan May 3 #27
LOL. "Destroyed". These people need a dictionary before they post on YouTube again. muriel_volestrangler May 3 #28
"just saying it's a trivial misdemeanour - on a few spaces on a large public building. " MichMan May 3 #29
It is "Historic" just because it's not a100 years old Cha May 2 #15
So agree Cha!! flamingdem May 2 #18
Ohh Mahalo, flamingdem! Cha May 2 #19
There is no common ground with the fucking shitty Hamas lovers. They only want death. SoFlaBro May 2 #20
There will be a reckoning ripcord May 2 #24
Good to Know.. TY ripcord! Cha May 2 #25
I agree flamingdem May 2 #17
And the graffiti and desecration is quickly getting worse. SunSeeker May 2 #21
Hiding the face because? flamingdem May 2 #22
These pro-Hamas people have got to be ANSWER types. Faux-regressives AZLD4Candidate May 1 #7
Remember when these kids protested us arming Assad? AkFemDem May 2 #26
There must be a reason sarisataka May 3 #30

Richard D

(8,841 posts)
1. It's only a matter of time . . .
Wed May 1, 2024, 12:11 PM
May 1

. . . until things get fatally violent. Then, "who could have seen this coming!!"

 
2. Violent Clashes at UCLA
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:12 PM
May 1

Last night I watched our local Los Angeles channel show the clash between pro Palestine protestors and outsiders. The right to protest peacefully is a constitutional right. The outsiders were dressed in black and aggressively try to tear down the site and fought with the pro Palestinian students. They seemed older. One carried an Israel flag. There was no talk. These people were going to destroy the pro Palestinian site. One person who said he was a UCLA student said he was tired of destruction to our campus. The campus belongs to the state of California. If the state of California through their representatives want them to be removed, it is up to them. If you want to protest against them go and speak out against them. It is not your job to dismantle their site and fight them. The right to protest peacefully is a constitutional right and we have representatives and police to take care of the pro Palestinian people and site should they be called upon.

SunSeeker

(51,902 posts)
3. Violence is not the answer, nor is illegally blockading or vandalizing UCLA.
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:24 PM
May 1

I am a UCLA alum. I am disgusted that someone would spray paint "FREE GAZA" on UCLA's historic Royce Hall. This does not help Palestinians in any way. I can't imagine a student doing that, especially one who worked their whole life for the grades to get in this incredibly selective university. You don't suppose the vandals were outsiders?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,447 posts)
4. ""Historic"? LOL. It's under a 100 years old.
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:39 PM
May 1

I can very easily see that a student would spray-paint that. It is an unoffensive slogan.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,447 posts)
9. No, because it's graffiti, but it's a minor point.
Wed May 1, 2024, 03:35 PM
May 1

I marvel at the idea that a student would never stoop to inoffensive graffiti on a subject they're passionate about.

SunSeeker

(51,902 posts)
6. It is one of LA's oldest buildings, and the symbol of UCLA,. Tagging it is offensive.
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:54 PM
May 1

You're trying to defend the indefensible.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,447 posts)
10. It's graffiti. It's an inoffensive slogan, and will be easily removed.
Wed May 1, 2024, 03:37 PM
May 1

If it's a symbol of UCLA, then it probably was a student. LOL at a city with buildings under 100 years old being precious about them.

SunSeeker

(51,902 posts)
11. It's not easily removed, it's not chalk. And it's offensive to anyone who cares about UCLA like I do.
Wed May 1, 2024, 03:46 PM
May 1

And no, I don't think it was a student. The median GPA to get in is a 4.57. https://admission.ucla.edu/apply/freshman/freshman-profile/2023

Nobody who worked their whole life to get a perfect GPA like that in order to get into UCLA would shit on UCLA like that. Or be that stooopid.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,447 posts)
14. It's not covered. You obviously haven't noticed I'm not defending them
Wed May 1, 2024, 06:44 PM
May 1

just saying it's a trivial misdemeanour - on a few spaces on a large public building. There seems to be a great need for smelling salts around here today.

SunSeeker

(51,902 posts)
16. It's not "trivial." They defaced the historic symbol of UCLA, not some random "public building."
Thu May 2, 2024, 02:26 AM
May 2

Historic, according to Oxford, means "famous or important in history." There is no age minimum. But regardless, Royce Hall was built in 1929 and is close to 100 years old, the enduring symbol of UCLA. George Gershwin, Leonard Bernstein, and Ella Fitzgerald performed there.  Albert Einstein and John F. Kennedy spoke there.

It's ridiculously disrespectful to spray paint it. And it will not be easy to remove the graffiti from the 100 year old brick work without damaging it. They will no doubt have to hire experts to restore it and will cost well over the $400 threshold to make it a felony, not a misdemeanor.

That is felony vandalism.

California Penal Code § 594 PC defines the crime of vandalism as maliciously damaging, destroying or defacing someone else's property. Vandalism is a misdemeanor if the amount of damage is less than $400.00. But the charge can be a felony if the damage is $400.00 or greater.

maxsolomon

(33,475 posts)
23. In December 2022, Seattle arrested a pair of notorious, longtime Grafitti Artists: Satn & Eagr.
Thu May 2, 2024, 07:24 PM
May 2

The estimate of their cumulative vandalism was over $300,000.

My last project with brick is painted in Prosoco Blok-Guard to 20' above the ground to stop taggers. It adds significant cost.

I hope UCLA was proactive in protecting Royce Hall.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,447 posts)
28. LOL. "Destroyed". These people need a dictionary before they post on YouTube again.
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:45 AM
May 3

Are the DU fainting couches full, yet?

MichMan

(12,020 posts)
29. "just saying it's a trivial misdemeanour - on a few spaces on a large public building. "
Fri May 3, 2024, 01:05 PM
May 3

Most people understand the dictionary definition of a "few"





Cha

(298,334 posts)
15. It is "Historic" just because it's not a100 years old
Thu May 2, 2024, 01:43 AM
May 2

BFD.. It's still Historic from 1937.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Hall#Renovation

It seems as though some of the students there are capable of Vandalsem.

They're Not helping Gazans though with their Smearing of Royce Hall.

Free he Hostages

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
24. There will be a reckoning
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:48 PM
May 2

UCLA has said students who failed to leave before the encampment was cleared would face punishment up to and including expulsion, staff would face termination and off-campus people would be charged criminally. Seems actions do have consequences.

flamingdem

(39,346 posts)
17. I agree
Thu May 2, 2024, 02:44 AM
May 2

Alumni and disgusted.

It doesn't work to have protests without leadership.
It will be co-opted by others with other agendas
and violent idiots.

Not impressed with any of this.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
26. Remember when these kids protested us arming Assad?
Thu May 2, 2024, 10:14 PM
May 2

Or how about all those times they burned down their campuses and beat each other up in protest after we sent more arms to Saudi Arabia?

Oh wait. Weird, now that I think about it I don't remember them doing that? Gee... I wonder what it is that's different about the Israelis? What could it be? I'm super confused, we are okay with giving countries, even countries in the Middle East, weapons to kill other people... but for some reason I can't put my finger on- the people of Israel are different. They're super "other" for some reason. Gosh, I guess it's just a mystery!

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