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Redstate Bluegirl

(213 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:00 AM Feb 2012

Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC

NEW YORK—MSNBC dropped conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on Thursday, four months after suspending him following the publication of his latest book.

The book "Suicide of a Superpower" contained chapters titled "The End of White America" and "The Death of Christian America." Critics called the book racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic, charges Buchanan denied.

MSNBC President Phil Griffin said last month that he didn't think Buchanan's book "should be part of the national dialogue, much less part of the dialogue on MSNBC."

The network said on Thursday that "after 10 years, we have decided to part ways with Pat Buchanan. We wish him well."

Buchanan, in a column posted on Thursday, called the decision "an undeniable victory for the blacklisters."

Link here http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2012/02/16/pat_buchanan_out_at_msnbc/

Good riddance! Now get rid of Scarborough!

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Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC (Original Post) Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 OP
About fucking time! n/t teddy51 Feb 2012 #1
My exact words. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #49
That fucking ass hole should have been banished from the airwaves years ago... WCGreen Feb 2012 #2
The whitelisters over at Fox News will welcome you with open arms, Pat. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #3
Is that "Whitelisters" or MurrayDelph Feb 2012 #32
He'll be at FuxNews inside a month center rising Feb 2012 #4
At Least at Fuxs I wont have to worry about his creepyness suprising me while watch Hardball. rsmith6621 Feb 2012 #9
Pat Buchanan joins Faux News in 3...2... Faygo Kid Feb 2012 #38
Alleluia!!! lovuian Feb 2012 #5
He probably isn't extreme enough for Fox JJW Feb 2012 #6
Hope he took his sheets and pointy hat with him. madamesilverspurs Feb 2012 #7
Forty years too late. caseymoz Feb 2012 #8
Now that's a high-brow and appropriate rant. It made my morning. n/t Mira Feb 2012 #16
Bravo! Myrina Feb 2012 #19
The MSM loved him as the sage old white man spokesperson lunatica Feb 2012 #22
K&R... stonecutter357 Feb 2012 #33
This may shock you Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #40
Did you read the qualifier? caseymoz Feb 2012 #44
Well I'm a Lutheran Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #45
He' hosting a new game show call 'Wait, Wait don't Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #10
well, some Fox "contributor" will be pissed that he'll be taking thier air time... JHB Feb 2012 #11
Woohoo! Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #12
To Pat's credit, he was against the Iraq War and vocal about it Kolesar Feb 2012 #13
To Pat's credit he was a pro Hitler, racist, antisemite, Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #15
So was the British National Party; that doesn't make them good people. LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #21
You are attributing to me a statement that I did not make Kolesar Feb 2012 #29
Pat did have moments of insight wtmusic Feb 2012 #25
Is that the same MSNBC that's supposedly "the liberal answer to Fox News"? nxylas Feb 2012 #14
....hmmm ejbr Feb 2012 #17
That's a start. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #18
Good! LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #20
He's been around since Nixon was President lunatica Feb 2012 #24
I don't remember anything as overtly racist as this wtmusic Feb 2012 #26
Today's racists are out of the closet thanks to the teabaggeratti lunatica Feb 2012 #28
Good Riddance Pat Puke-Cannon!! lastlib Feb 2012 #23
YES!!!!! Stellar Feb 2012 #27
About time. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #30
His personal network will continue to beat the Race War drums. nt patrice Feb 2012 #31
they didn't know this about him for the past ten years? orleans Feb 2012 #34
Good. jwirr Feb 2012 #35
How about Morning Joke next? MarkCharles Feb 2012 #36
Gee Turbineguy Feb 2012 #37
As my grandmother used to say, beac Feb 2012 #39
'Scuse me whilist I warm up the band.... Fearless Feb 2012 #41
+1 that band kicks ASS. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #55
Why? Ron Paul is running for President and he's just as racist as Pat ever was. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #42
Buh bye Pukecannon! Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! muntrv Feb 2012 #43
Should have been done a long time ago. center rising Feb 2012 #46
Ohio? Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #48
The really big boil on America's ass is Fux Noise Mosaic Feb 2012 #47
I never have paid attention to him. Neoma Feb 2012 #50
Why did he even get hired in the first place Mkap Feb 2012 #51
A voice in the choir. the BIG LIE. underpants Feb 2012 #54
NBC's execs are slow n/t tooeyeten Feb 2012 #52
One thing's for certain Zorro Feb 2012 #53

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
49. My exact words.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:04 AM
Feb 2012

Buchanan could easily be (and perhaps is) the Grand Master Wizard Dipshit of the KKK.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
2. That fucking ass hole should have been banished from the airwaves years ago...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:06 AM
Feb 2012

Anyone who gives him or his sister air time is just pathetic.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
3. The whitelisters over at Fox News will welcome you with open arms, Pat.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:08 AM
Feb 2012

You can spew your racist bile and tell stories about all of the awful people you worked with a MSNBC.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
38. Pat Buchanan joins Faux News in 3...2...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:43 PM
Feb 2012

I say within two weeks, max.

He'll be a great pal to Hannity.

 

JJW

(1,416 posts)
6. He probably isn't extreme enough for Fox
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:56 AM
Feb 2012

I think most knew him to be unbalanced before MSNBC hired him.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
8. Forty years too late.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:14 AM
Feb 2012

Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:34 AM - Edit history (1)

This guy should have never gained any credibility. The very fact that Buchanan worked at high levels of our media and government, much less ever worked above a student newspaper and got near a small-town mayor's office shows how long our country's been dysfunctional.

His racism and Catholic Pietic anti-semitism has been clear for decades. He was also a belligerent, jingo creep during the Cold War, an attitude that, during his heyday in the Reagan administration, almost killed us all.

On top of that, he was abrasive and dislikeable, an early pioneer of the poisonous tone of our politics. I'll never forget after John Lennon was murdered how Buchanan wrote a gloating, sneering column. It was a tone picked up and perfected by Rush Limbaugh, who referred any Progressive dying as "Assuming room temperature," and sang "Ain't Got No Home" after a homeless advocate committed suicide. I hope there's a Hell just because it would make it possible for Buchanan and Limbaugh to share the same pit and torture each other for eternity.

He was corporatist, until he noticed it was hurting workers, that is to say, it was hurting white workers, then he evoked protectionism based on racism to correct it. The man is a toxic, cat-shit-laced-with-arsenic, human being. The rest of us have been gagging on him long enough.

How is it the MSM has been oblivious to this until now?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. The MSM loved him as the sage old white man spokesperson
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:16 AM
Feb 2012

You have to admit he was good enough at it that he made a very good living from it for decades.

I find it hard to believe that wart has been taken off MSNBC. Now I know anything is possible and it gives me hope. If they can throw him out they can still do the right thing sometimes.

 

Redstate Bluegirl

(213 posts)
40. This may shock you
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:37 PM
Feb 2012

But I personally don't know any Catholics who are anti-Semitic. The fact that Buchanan IS should not be transformed into a broad brush.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
44. Did you read the qualifier?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

I couldn't quite find a term for it, so I used a neologism. So I'll explain: I meant antisemitic in the same sense Pope Pius XII was, as opposed to the Adolf Hitler school of antisemitism.

I was raised as a Catholic in a solidly Catholic home, and a Catholic extended family. I know what I'm talking about. Patrick Buchanan considers the Jews "a stubborn, stiff-necked people" (a meme that has gone from one echelon of the Catholic hierarchy to the other and back for centuries), who just won't listen to the truth. He's suspicious of them; he thinks they're privileged and manipulative but that's tempered by a sympathy that never recognizes full equality. The suspicion can, with little reinforcement and encouragement, turn into downright bigotry that destroys any sympathy whatsoever.

It's the sort of person who would struggle to save Jews from the concentration camp, but would be agreeable to confiscating from and segregating them. The sort of person who would see the silver lining of the holocaust as being all the Jewish converts to Catholicism. They would say Hitler was wrong about that Holocaust and WWII thing, but they sure understand why he was pissed at the Jews. And like Pius, it's the sort of person who would call Hitler evil, but might have praise Franco and Salazar. They're not exactly Holocaust deniers, but you mention six million Jews were murdered, they'll say, yeah, but the Gypsies suffered worse.

These are my relatives. Buchanan's views on Jews are the same as my Dad's. You talk to many Catholics, and this is the attitude that you'll find. And to them, this isn't a description of bigotry. This attitude is normalized with them they don't discuss it outside their families enough to notice that there's anything off about it.

It's the sort of Catholic influenced very much by Pius XII papacy, when this was the dominant attitude, and definitely the dominant one among students in Catholic schools when I attended them. So please don't tell me that some aren't like this. I know they aren't. But how many have you talked to about this? Really? It's not an active hatred, but a side-effect of having a thought process receptive to doctrines they can't question.
 

Redstate Bluegirl

(213 posts)
45. Well I'm a Lutheran
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:17 PM
Feb 2012

If you were raised Catholic, then I guess I'll defer to you on this point. All I'm saying is the Catholics I know aren't hung up about Jews at all. (I know one guy who's extremely anti-immigration but that's it.)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. He' hosting a new game show call 'Wait, Wait don't
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:21 AM
Feb 2012

Blame Hitler' soon to be seen on your local fox news.






White Supremacist Gloats Over Pat Buchanan’s Appearance on Radio Show


White supremacist James Edwards, host of the overtly racist Political Cesspool radio show in Tennessee, is gloating today that he got noticed by the “extremist left” after MSNBC political consultant Pat Buchanan appeared on his show: I must be doing something right


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39342_White_Supremacist_Gloats_Over_Pat_Buchanans_Appearance_on_Radio_Show

JHB

(37,166 posts)
11. well, some Fox "contributor" will be pissed that he'll be taking thier air time...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:38 AM
Feb 2012

...is it too late to enter the Republican race? They're getting desparate for a new AnybodybutMitt.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
13. To Pat's credit, he was against the Iraq War and vocal about it
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:06 AM
Feb 2012

Unlike Christ Matthews, who now claims he was against that war from the beginning.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. To Pat's credit he was a pro Hitler, racist, antisemite,
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:44 AM
Feb 2012

to Pat's credit.....geez ..... unlike Christ Matthews...

LeftishBrit

(41,219 posts)
21. So was the British National Party; that doesn't make them good people.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:54 AM
Feb 2012

There are two main types of right-wing hawk: the neocon-imperialists who see all foreigners as either friends or enemies, and wish to influence the world at the point of a sword; and the xenophobic-isolationists, including Buchanan, who hate all foreigners; avoid 'foreign' wars but become hyperaggressive if they imagine any threat to their own country (e.g. Buchanan did support the Cold War and the Vietnam war because he considered communism to be direct threat to the United States); and tend to be racist and to whip up hatred of 'enemies within'.

Both types are dangerous, just in different ways.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
25. Pat did have moments of insight
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

which you don't usually get at all from a complete tool.

Good riddance.

LeftishBrit

(41,219 posts)
20. Good!
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:50 AM
Feb 2012

I first came across him in 2002 when he wrote something defending LePen; and have hated him ever since.

I HATE hard-right-wingers!!!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. He's been around since Nixon was President
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:28 AM
Feb 2012

He served as President Nixon's speechwriter and President Reagan's White House Communications Director, and he coined the term "Silent Majority". He's been a political pundit for decades, putrifying our airwaves continually the entire time, adding his bit to hate, homophobia, racism, sexism and jingoism with his obviously decomposing mind.

It's almost shocking to see him fired. I really didn't think it would happen.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
26. I don't remember anything as overtly racist as this
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:31 AM
Feb 2012

in Pat's past. Almost as if he's watching his party crumble before his eyes, and this is his last F.U. to America.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. Today's racists are out of the closet thanks to the teabaggeratti
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:41 AM
Feb 2012

But it was always there coming out of the sides of mouths when it was just all white people in the room. Racists have always made the mistake that if you're white you're one of them. Buchanan just got confident because it's so blatant now. If the Republicans can out and out display overt racism, why shouldn't he? I suspect he always strove to be an intellectual leader of this group. The 'thinking racist' who could mold and manipulate public opinion. He probably received fan mail from Rush's listeners.

Like a lot of egotists he overstepped himself and fell into a trap created by his own cockiness. A lot like Newt is doing.

orleans

(34,097 posts)
34. they didn't know this about him for the past ten years?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
Feb 2012

it took a book to tell them this? didn't they ever listen to him on their own network?
give me a break.

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
36. How about Morning Joke next?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:28 PM
Feb 2012

His show is so much better when he isn't around to rant and rave about how wonderful Republicans are for American free enterprise.

When he's not there, it's actually quite watchable and informative.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
41. 'Scuse me whilist I warm up the band....
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:40 PM
Feb 2012










Buh-bye asshat, don't let the door kick you in your bigoted ass on the way out!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
42. Why? Ron Paul is running for President and he's just as racist as Pat ever was.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:55 PM
Feb 2012

I don't get the selective posturing done at MSNBC.
One day they love Bush, the next day they hate Bush.
Odd.

Mkap

(223 posts)
51. Why did he even get hired in the first place
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
Feb 2012

It's not like his new book was the first time he had ever made insensitive racial remarks. He's been writing it for the past 30 something years and yet he was still hired by MSNBC????? Why did they hire him in the first place? Did they need someone to represent the voice of the KKK?

Of course this works out well for Pat, it comes just in time to jump on board to the campaign of his fellow KKK congressmen Ron Paul

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