Mass killer Anders Breivik threatens hunger strike for better video games, end of “torture”
Source: euronews.com
Norwegian mass killer Anders Breivik has threatened to start a hunger strike over his living conditions in jail, it has emerged.
Breivik, who killed 77 people in 2011, compared prison to torture and bemoaned, among other things, the lack of an up-to-date video games console in his cell.
His comments were made in a four-page hand-written letter to penitentiary officials, which contains a dozen requests, including making his jail time compliant with European regulations. They also tackle issues of fundamental rights, such as a daily walk and communication.
Breivik requests the Playstation 2 he has access to is replaced by a more recent Playstation 3. Other inmates have access to video games for adults while I can only play the less interesting children video games. One example is Rayman Revolution, a game designed for 3-year-olds, the 35-year-old wrote.
Read more: http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/14/far-right-terrorist-breivik-threatens-hunger-strike-for-better-video-games-end-/
Will this person actually be released from prison in his 50's? A 21 year sentence for killing all these children. WTF?
DJ13
(23,671 posts)alp227
(32,073 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Ilsa
(61,710 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)but this is a good example of a country being way too soft on criminals.
Sorry, murderers getting access to video games? What the fuck? This guy should be in solitary at best though I think in extreme cases like his, the death penalty would have been fully and absolutely justified.
Some criminals simply cannot and should not be rehabilitated. We don't need him spouting his garbage for the next twenty years or whatever "punishment" Norway hands out.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Not even close to "everyone on this site" is a Europhile. That said - I agree with your other points.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The indeterminate penalty (civilian penal code), called "preventive detention" (Norwegian: forvaring), is set at up to 21 years' imprisonment, with no eligibility for parole for a time period not exceeding 10 years. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the detention can be extended by five years at a time. Renewal of the detention every five years can in theory result in actual life imprisonment. Preventive detention is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of his committing violent crimes in the future. However, after the minimum time period has elapsed, the offender can petition for parole once every year, and this may be granted if it is determined that he is no longer a danger to society.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway
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He was sentenced to 21 years in prison, in a form of preventive detention that required a minimum of 10 years incarceration and the possibility of an extension of that incarceration for as long as he is deemed a danger to society.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
petronius
(26,608 posts)diabeticman
(3,121 posts)and chances our he will be sentence to another 21 year sentence. The thing about Norway that our American minds cannot begin to understand they actually try to REALLY Rehabilitate their criminals.
TheMathieu
(456 posts)I'm sorry my small "American mind" cannot comprehend the lunacy of this mass murderer's pampering.
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)of view. I personally don't understand it myself but my wife has that rehabilitation mind.
whathehell
(29,102 posts)I'd say you did insult him, yourself, and other Americans, first by negatively stereotyping some
supposed "American Mindset" and then presuming he possesses it because, unlike many others here,
he doesn't genuflect to Europe and dares to criticize their policies when he thinks they're wrong.
marble falls
(57,427 posts)punishing all prisoners because of a perceived danger of a relatively few murders/psychopaths/sociopaths.
BootinUp
(47,209 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)AllyCat
(16,259 posts)Sounds like this murderer has too much free time. Wish I could say the same for his victimss.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)It still blows my mind.
TheMathieu
(456 posts)Norway gets a lot of policies right, but this is NOT one of them.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Norway has its own standards and its own principles, and their strikingly humane treatment of this man is not for his own benefit (unless he can use these conditions to become more functional), but in support of their own culture. Which is good.
I can't find it within myself to blame any culture which would put such a man to death for his crimes, but I can find it within myself to admire the culture which does not.
fierywoman
(7,702 posts)Weren't video games invented to teach soldiers to kill without remorse?
If true, then WTF is this SOB doing with F-ing MORE video games?
His cell should have projections/slides 24/7 of all the young innocent victims he murdered -- preferably spaced at a rhythm that would make him VERY uncomfortable. THAT would be torture, but I'm sorry, rather deserved torture.
If he goes on a hunger strike, tant pis, peggio per lui.
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ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)Nt
The Philosopher
(895 posts)has everyone forgotten so soon?
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Make him play it FOREVER!
Nolimit
(142 posts)He should have to play this.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)That would no doubt be considered cruel and unusual punishment in the US though.
Heddi
(18,312 posts)back in 1997, when we got together, he pulls out the Atari and I'm quite impressed. He pulls out ET as one of the games and I'm automatically in love. Especially since I was 21, and could surely play the game that I could never get past the first screen of when I was 7.
hah.
yah
right
Picked up the first reese peice and was like...okay. now what? And that's it. Same when I was 21 as it was when I was 7.
fuck that game
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)I think I have just the barest memory of that game coming out.
woodsprite
(11,940 posts)"Barney's Hide and Seek". Two of the most annoying games in the world. To this day, I can't stand the song "Tis a gift to be simple".
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that would drive him over the edge.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)But it got boring pretty quickly
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but I still miss the Atari 2600. I was thinking of getting a refurbed on. I know they sell game packs that have something like 200 classic games on them. My favorite was Decatholon, but you could wear out a joystick fast with that game.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)It's called Stella, runs under Linux. I have a couple of old Wyco joysticks (atari compatible) so I made the USB joystick adapter from here and it works very well.
Raiders of the Lost Ark was a fun game
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I can run Ubuntu on my iMac, so I think I will download this.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)You can probably run Ubuntu as a virtual machine under the iMac, then run stella under that. I'm not sure whether VirtualBox is made for Mac though, so I could be wrong.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)How about a big cup of STFU and a dose of We Don't Give a Fuck what you want.
Better yet, why don't you just go off and FOAD?
pampango
(24,692 posts)In many countries the death penalty is ruled out as immoral. Then how punishment is appropriate before it reflects on the punisher? In a "moral" justice system the decision can be difficult.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Under Norwegian law, he can be kept in prison indefinitely if he is still dangerous, and writing letters claiming that access to the wrong video games qualifies as torture, plus threatening violence against Norwegian authorities, would serve as evidence that he is dangerous.
If the article is correct, he threatened the prison authorities with violence from supporters (all 12 of them), and predicted that Norway will have a fascist regime:
If I die, all the far right radicals and extremists in the European world will know exactly which individuals tortured me to death ( )This could have consequences for some individuals on the short term but also when Norway will have a new fascist regime in 13 to 40 years, warns the killer, who considers himself a political prisoner.
Breivik appears nuts or a sociopath, but the Norwegian civil authorities are not nuts and are not sociopaths, and they aren't going to let this guy out while his mental apparatus works this way. Nor are they likely to respond to threats of violence from supporters by expanding his access to the internet.
All this only renews my sense of grief over his killing spree. That the lives of so many functional human beings could be ended by such a twisted piece of humanity is hard to bear, and it must be even more painful for the Norwegians.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)With the controller hooked up to 13,000 volts.
DinahMoeHum
(21,825 posts)He has said that he hates this song: A Norwegian translation of Pete Seeger's song Rainbow Race called Children of the Rainbow
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Breivik tells court he practised his shot using a 'holographic aiming device' while playing video game
Helen Pidd in Oslo
theguardian.com, Thursday 19 April 2012 07.08 EDT
Anders Behring Breivik told the court he practised his shot using the 'holographic aiming device' he had bought to use with the war simulation game ...
"You develop target acquisition," he said. He used a similar device during the shooting attacks that left 69 dead at a political youth camp on the island of Utøya on 22 July.
Describing the game, he said: "It consists of many hundreds of different tasks and some of these tasks can be compared with an attack, for real. That's why it's used by many armies throughout the world. It's very good for acquiring experience related to sights systems" ...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/19/anders-breivik-call-of-duty
VA_Jill
(10,041 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)I can see giving him the privilege of being allowed to take a daily walk. The communications access, sure...stamps, monitored phone privileges, limited access to the internet and to daily news. I noticed he didn't ask for better food...I would have though the food would have been the worst part of prison.
Fuck him and the entirety of Norwegian fascism over the video games though...for a guy that murders children, Rayman is probably too violent of a video game...perhaps Tetris would be more to his liking.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They can cry together about the "injustices" they face.
mackerel
(4,412 posts)boofeckingwho
Alkene
(752 posts)west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here."
>_
Hopefully he'll get eaten by a Grue before he completes his sentence.