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groundloop

(11,530 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 09:10 AM Feb 2014

Missouri gun murders 'rose after law repeal'

Source: BBC

Researchers claim a new study provides some of the most compelling evidence yet for tighter gun controls in the US.

The team followed the consequences of the State of Missouri repealing its permit-to-purchase handgun law in 2007.

“Coincident exactly with the policy change, there was an immediate upward trajectory to the homicide rates in Missouri,” said Prof Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

“That upward trajectory did not happen with homicides that did not involve guns; it did not occur to any neighbouring state; the national trend was doing the opposite – it was trending downward; and it was not specific to one or two localities – it was, for the most part, state-wide,” he told BBC News.


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26222578




There's a lot more information in the linked article, it's well worth reading.

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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Worth doing.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:39 AM
Feb 2014

Nothing inherently anti-2nd amendment about it either. No registration associated with it.

I'd do it. I'm already holding a CPL, so it's not like the government doesn't have a pretty good idea I have guns anyway.

NickB79

(19,282 posts)
8. There are a few issues that popped out at me
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:41 AM
Feb 2014
The study links the abandonment of the background check to an additional 60 or so murders occurring per year in Missouri between 2008 and 2012.


Missouri still requires background checks to purchase firearms from any licensed dealer. It's part of federal firearms law and no state is exempted from it. I think what they meant was that Missouri abandoned the state-conducted background check you undergo when you get a permit-to-purchase a handgun; the gun store must still conduct a federal background check before the sale. And a background check and permit-to-purchase is really no impediment at all; you fill out a 1-2 page form at your local police station, wait 6-10 days, and you get your permit.

The team said it took account of changes that occurred in policing levels and incarceration rates, trends in burglaries, and statistically controlled for other possible confounding factors such as shifts in unemployment and poverty.

What was stark, added Prof Webster, was the rise in the number of handguns that subsequently found their way into the hands of criminals.


The year the law changed and this study started (2007) overlapped with the still-ongoing boom in firearms and ammo sales brought on by paranoia and hysteria that President Obama would enact new gun control legislation. I'd imagine such paranoia would run especially high in a red state like Missouri. With or without a change to gun licensing requirements, it seems likely the residents of Missouri would have kept legally buying guns at a higher than normal level, which would definitely have an impact on the number of guns finding their way into the hands of those who couldn't legally own them.
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. Who could imagine that more idiots with guns would result in more gun homicides?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:12 PM
Feb 2014

I just don't get the connection. Idiots, guns, homicides. They are clearly all in separate domains.

NutmegYankee

(16,204 posts)
10. That's not surprising with respect to handguns.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

They are after all used in the vast majority of all shootings.

lark

(23,182 posts)
11. Yeah, those assholes who say FL's Stand Your Ground law is working are delusional.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:10 PM
Feb 2014

They are ignoring the national trajectory and crediting the results with the assinine law, ignorning the people who've been shot and would probably have been safe without this idiot statute. Obviously, increasing access to guns = more killed. That "one good guy" theory is patently absurd when there were several mass killing at military bases.

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