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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts) Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:28 PM Feb 2014

Russians Protest Disallowed Hockey Goal at U.S. Embassy in Moscow

Source: New York Times

It was the biggest demonstration so far concerning the Sochi Olympics, and it had nothing to do with gay rights, environmental damage or corruption.

Dozens of Russian fans gathered Monday outside the United States embassy in Moscow, some brandishing hockey sticks, to protest a disallowed goal scored by the Russian team in Saturday’s Olympic hockey match against the United States in Sochi, a decision that they felt cost them the game against their Cold War rivals.

A crowd of mainly students erected a large banner in front of the embassy reading, “Turn the referee into soap!”, a common Russian chant at sporting events, implying the referee is fit only to have his bones and body fat boiled down for soap.

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Many Russians, including the team’s coach, Zinetula Bilyaletdinov, accused Meier afterward of making a mistake in disqualifying the shot from Fedor Tyutin, although the International Ice Hockey Federation has backed the referee’s decision.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/18/sports/olympics/russians-protest-disallowed-hockey-goal-at-us-embassy-in-moscow.html?_r=0

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Russians Protest Disallowed Hockey Goal at U.S. Embassy in Moscow (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 OP

Olympic hockey rules state that a goal isn't valid if the net is dislodged during the play. Avalux Feb 2014 #1

that's an expensive looking professional sign for a "student" protest nt msongs Feb 2014 #2

Send them this video and tell them to get over it. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #3

THANK YOU Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #4

lol...Doug Collins wants to know where those hockey refs were in 1972 BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #5

In the NHL that would have been a good goal. iandhr Feb 2014 #6

This isn't the NHL, sked14 Feb 2014 #7

If you were watching the game it was all Russia at the time BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #8

I am aware of that. iandhr Feb 2014 #9

My apologies, sked14 Feb 2014 #11

No worries iandhr Feb 2014 #12

No. Fucking. Shit. What a travesty Ishoutandscream2 Feb 2014 #10

It's gonna' be hell in the LA Kings locker room after the Olympics..... groundloop Feb 2014 #13

Russia got hosed. AngryAmish Feb 2014 #14

Tov Schidtsky. marble falls Feb 2014 #15

that protest banner unfurling looks like it went a little more successful than a certain ring tomm2thumbs Feb 2014 #16

Oh FFS. Arkana Feb 2014 #17

Oh god - Get over it and protest your LGBT brothers and sisters being hunted and tortured instead... chrisa Feb 2014 #18

Hockey fans from the Sports Group dissect the game here: KamaAina Feb 2014 #19

Avalux

(35,015 posts)

1. Olympic hockey rules state that a goal isn't valid if the net is dislodged during the play.

Reply to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:39 PM

Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I understand their consternation, but I watched the game and the net was dislodged albeit slightly. Rules are rules.

Besides - Kovalchuk had several opportunities to win the game in the shootout but Quick shut him down.

It was a really exciting, intense game; much like Stanley Cup playoff hockey even though it didn't count towards a medal. The real blow to the Russian team was their failure to win against Slovakia during regulation. That forced them to play in the elimination round.

msongs

(67,473 posts)

2. that's an expensive looking professional sign for a "student" protest nt

Reply to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:40 PM

Feb 2014

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)

3. Send them this video and tell them to get over it.

Reply to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:44 PM

Feb 2014

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

4. THANK YOU

Reply to JoePhilly (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:47 PM

Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Jesus Christ...Talk about glass houses...

To this very day those Silver medals from 1972 lie unclaimed in a Munich bank vault...

BeyondGeography

(39,392 posts)

5. lol...Doug Collins wants to know where those hockey refs were in 1972

Reply to JoePhilly (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:48 PM

Feb 2014

Weak call, though. The NHL probably wouldn't even have reviewed it.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)

6. In the NHL that would have been a good goal.

Reply to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:51 PM

Feb 2014

sked14

(579 posts)

7. This isn't the NHL,

Reply to iandhr (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:10 PM

Feb 2014

different rules for international hockey.

BeyondGeography

(39,392 posts)

8. If you were watching the game it was all Russia at the time

Reply to sked14 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:21 PM

Feb 2014

They had just tied it up and they were totally dominating play. We were on our heels and it looked and felt like a goal. We won, but it was on a technicality so obscure our own players didn't even know why the goal was disallowed:

"I'm still looking for the explanation," St. Louis Blues forward David Backes said. "I still don't know if it was a high stick or the net went off the mooring or God went in there and stopped it. I'm not sure."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=705138

If you read the article, it's quite possible that Quick himself dislodged the net, as he has been known to do in the past. Maybe he felt a bad moon rising (because it was) and pulled a fast one.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)

9. I am aware of that.

Reply to sked14 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:00 PM

Feb 2014

There are several other differences.

The international rink is wider, Goalies can play the puck anywhere behind the next, and a two line pass is legal.

sked14

(579 posts)

11. My apologies,

Reply to iandhr (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:17 PM

Feb 2014

didn't mean it as a slap towards you.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)

12. No worries

Reply to sked14 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:22 PM

Feb 2014

Ishoutandscream2

(6,664 posts)

10. No. Fucking. Shit. What a travesty

Reply to JoePhilly (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:14 PM

Feb 2014

I remember watching that game in 1972 in total disbelief. My God!

groundloop

(11,530 posts)

13. It's gonna' be hell in the LA Kings locker room after the Olympics.....

Reply to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:03 PM

Feb 2014

From another article: http://www.csnwashington.com/hockey-washington-capitals/talk/did-quick-intentionally-dislodge-his-net

Following the Americans’ 3-2 shootout win, Russia’s 24-year-old defenseman Slava Voynov speculated that Los Angeles Kings goalie Jonathan Quick might have intentionally dislodged the net seconds before Fedor Tyutin scored what would have been the go-ahead goal for Russia with 4:40 remaining in regulation.

“I play with him,” Voynov told reporters after the game. “I know that's his style.”

I watched that game, and I too had the feeling that the US team was being outplayed. I also noticed in the replay that Quick was very fast to point to the dislodged mooring after the goal. As little as it moved I think it's a little fishy that he was even aware of it without having taken an active role in it's being moved. I expect this particular rule to be heavily debated in the rules committee during the next 4 years, this is exactly why the rule was changed in the NHL.