Now we want to suggest the assassination of the leader of a major World power? Who are you people!

How about yooz?

The Russians, excuse me former Soviets, are really good with poison and delivery systems.

My only thought as that what goes around comes around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko

It is now time to be pragmatic, not carelessly quixotic. We are just about to get ourselves in a real mess. American lives could be at stake before much longer if someone doesn't try to dial this thing back.

Tell that to the men and women who will be getting on the transport planes and flying to Kiev if we don't stop trying to push our goddamned weight around like we own the whole fucking World.

I suspect you are the one who is actually frighteningly naive about what is happening.

Get together ten or eleven other people who are willing to read a few books and meet twice a week for a couple hours during the next three months or so, and I'll be glad to (we can talk about what you'll each pay me). I'll make it very informative, and I am qualified.

no matter what Putin's propaganda machine tells you. It was Putin who chose to call a military spot drill of 150k troops, it was Putin who decided to deploy his air force for patrols over the area, it was Putin who sent his sailors into the Airport to detain? kidnap? the current President. WE aren't escalating this. Putin is. There is a treaty in place with the US, UK and Russia that says we will respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty. Is the US interfering with that? Didn't think so. We've called for things to calm down. Your language is about as appropriate as your opinion on the subject.

Were to happen in Canada or Mexico, we would have military all over the damn border. Hell, we'd have invaded weeks ago!

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I don't see any info on spying. Citation, please?

Sample here : Revealed: Poisoned ex-Russian spy Litvinenko WAS a paid-up MI6 agent

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490007/Revealed-Poisoned-ex-Russian-spy-Litvinenko-WAS-paid-MI6-agent.html#ixzz2ucxFmJiR

and here Exclusive: Murdered spy Alexander Litvinenko gave MI6 secret briefings about key ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-murdered-spy-alexander-litvinenko-gave-mi6-secret-briefings-about-key-ally-of-russian-president-vladimir-putin-8970939.html

What we get in our own UK media may differ from drivel you get elsewhere.

Hm.
In any event, he was receiving money as a consultant way after he received that asylum. In other words, he got a regular a job - he never went back to Russia (obviously) or any other country to spy on. Pretty lousy spy.

By highest levels - look at the statements of VP Biden and SoS John Kerry. (I haven't read an Obama comment, but I am sure he is in the same place. )

That would be other actors in Russia and surrounding countries.

Russia's leadership is not likely to see it that way at all. Consult a map and I think you'll quickly see why that matters.

This is no time to be writing checks with our mouths which we will not want to lose the treasure and the blood to cash.

Georgia had also had advice and training from the the US and Israel prior to that event - massive fail..

Tea Party, anyone?
UKIP?
Same in France, Belgium, etc.

So should we stop supporting the people of USA, UK, France?

He holds some pretty powerful cards.

the Ukrainian protesters have none. They just think the US and EU will come to their rescue like the Georgians thought. Bad mistake.

This will not end well for the Western Ukrainians and the US is powerless to do anything. Under NATO doctrine, US cannot act a war on its own in Europe and no European country wants a war with Russia.

It would have been better for the Ukrainians to see this evolve slowly but they were too impatient to be part of EU. EU doesn't have the funds to support its existing basket case members like Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland and they won't be able to help Ukraine.

This is not going to be an Iraq or an Afghanistan. The Russians will fight when cornered, and they will fight hard. If we don't cool our nonsense down quick, the bloody nose we get might never heal.

Start a shooting war with Russian on her own Western border. But be advised, there are already huge graveyards (really huge ones) full of people who did the same.

This is the way wars get started, my friend, an they are a great deal easier to start than to stop once started

and that means it would be the US/NATO/Whatever who starts a war?

Duh.

Such as Saudi Arabia.

Ideally, Crimea would be its own independent nation. But Russia (in both the Empire and Soviet forms) made sure to dig its claws in pretty deeply to its soil due to its strategic location.

Any resulting war will be fought on European soil. The French and Germans will particularly be against escalation and they will have to primarily foot the bill. Only UK being the poodle it is will support a war but that won't be enough.

When Georgia had a conflict, only John McCain made any noise and everyone else just shut up.

and their military assets which are already there.

to protect vital American interests, etc.

Remember Granada and Kuwait?

It happened before and likely will happen again.

Russia has too much influence for their liking and they know they'd be protected from Russia if they were in NATO. Russia needs them as a modern "Iron Curtain."

those countries may become part of EU but will not be allowed in NATO because it would be a recipe for disaster.

respect their borders and sovereignty. If Russia makes a move on Crimea, they're in violation of that. Also, the EU does have a dog in this fight. Russia pumps most of the gas it sells to the EU through Ukraine. When they "negotiate" with Ukraine over prices, they usually will cut it off in the dead of winter. At least once this has caused shortages in the EU. Ukraine can stand on it's own given time and modernization of it's resources. They have amazing farm land, a couple of oil companies had signed agreements to test for oil and gas (that was a big issue with Putin), it would have made Ukraine close to self-sufficient energy wise and an equal with Russia.
Russia desperately needs the warm water port at Sevestopol. His end game is to keep that port and try to keep Ukraine dependent on Russia's gas.

If a treaty to respect Ukraine's sovereignty was signed by us, then why have gone out of our way to meddle in Ukraine's internal affairs?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video

She got the guy she wanted as Ukraine's so-called "Interim President" too, or hadn't you noticed?

the same thing a whole lot of Ukrainian people wanted (for example, look up the vote to impeach Yanukovich - no votes "against" at all, even from the East).

at the very best case, we will be helping the EU expand, which frankly, it doe snot need help doing.

AT worst, we will ignite a powderkeg.

willing to do the IMFs bidding,” he said.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2014/02/27/washingtons-man-yatsenyuk-setting-ukraine-up-for-ruin/

this guy will be far more unpopular than Yanukovytch but it will be too late by then for most Ukrainians.

Ukraine will be the mother of all Greeces.

followed by more rounds of protests.