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Zorro

(15,751 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:53 PM Apr 2015

Tesla Model S: The Future Is Here

The all-electric Tesla Model S sedan is brilliant, beautiful, as user-friendly as a smartphone, fast as hell, quieter than C-Span, American made and years ahead of its luxury-sedan competition. But it isn’t perfect. I see things I would change. Those jazzy polished-zinc door handles, for example, part of the cabin’s circumnavigating bands of alloy and leather, weren’t shaped for human hands. The 17-inch capacitive touch screen panel that dominates the forward cabin still seems clumsily placed—design by procurement. I expect Tesla’s next-generation touch screen and graphical user interfaces to be fused across the forward cabin bulkhead like a bandit’s mask.

Nor would I be a class traitor if I could get something more intimate from Tesla’s color and trim department. I suppose it would be un-Buddhist to wish for diamond-pleat suede? These 12-way power adjustable seats are upholstered like high-tech dentist’s chairs.

Sometimes I miss the intimacy of a conventional, wraparound cockpit with a cabin-dividing center console. I long for it like a missing limb. The Model S doesn’t require driveline tunnels, prop shafts or torque tubes. Not even the new all-wheel-drive models, because there are two traction motors, one fore and one aft. The floor pan is as flat as a sheet of plywood and about the same size.

Here’s another problem: You can forget which of the enormous storage compartments you’ve put your groceries in: the front, where there is no occupying combustion motor; or the rear, where there is no evidence of a battery pack. I propose programming the daytime running lights to indicate with a single flash, forward or rear, to remind owners which end was opened last. Make it part of the proximity-approach routine. About 200 milliseconds ought to do.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-model-s-the-future-is-here-1428086202

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jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
10. I think it has a little Hyundai thing going
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:58 PM
Apr 2015

If you don't know exactly what this car is, it looks like any $25,000 midsize sedan out there.

And no, "the future" isn't a car that makes you plan trips like an 84-year-old man with a bladder problem. It is a car that uses Army tank-like Power Pack technology. I must explain: There are quite a few maintenance tasks on a tank you can't do with the engine still in the vehicle, like an oil change. This is why the Lima Tank Plant invented a way for anyone with just a little training to pull the engine out of a tank. (It's also why the Army invented oil analysis, but that's another story.)

The thing is, electric cars are great but there are situations where gasoline or diesel is better, like if you regularly need to go somewhere there won't ever be charging stations. To solve that, how about either selling or renting diesel generators that will tuck into the front trunk, and can be removed when you don't need them?

Zorro

(15,751 posts)
15. Plenty of campgrounds that provide 240V
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015

Teslas can be plugged in to those.

One of the key strategic moves made by Musk is to build cross-country superchargers to let the cars charge on long-distance trips.

And they're free to use by Tesla drivers.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. What, for $100K it still doesn't fly. The future isn't here, yet.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:02 PM
Apr 2015

This company is developing its own group of adoring brand acolytes, and some of them work for the WSJ. It's the world's most expensive cell phone on wheels, not the Starship Enterprise, fer chrize sakes.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
4. Agreed, overpriced
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015

And not as cool looking as i would like, but it has been rated the top car by Consumer Reports two years running. That said, my Leaf is fun to drive and bought used, cost a fraction of the Tesla.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
5. "there is no evidence of a battery pack" until you weight the stinking WHALE.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

A friend has one, and it's a great car. But then he lives where charging is cleaner than in places that use nonrenewable power sources.

It weighs almost as much as my F350 four wheel drive, four door, dually pickup. Just horrible.

The bottom line is, it can't be driven except in a fairly small radius. He won't visit me because I'm too close to the range limit.

We're a long way away yet.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. OK, let's go with curb weight.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 02:06 PM
Apr 2015

The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_vehicle_weight_rating

Curb weight of Ford F 350 super cab is approx 7000lbs, Tesla 4600 lbs

http://my.teslamotors.com/fr_CA/forum/forums/how-much-will-40-kwh-model-s-weigh

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_vehicle_weight_rating


......

I mean, really, just look at them side by side! The point is the Tesla is much lighter and not a whale.

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
13. You know your argument is...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:18 PM
Apr 2015

"It's not a whale! It only weighs as much as a Ford F-150!"

Okay, look at a Tesla next to a Volkswagen CC - a car similar in size. The VW weighs 3,369 lbs; Tesla's weighs 4,647.

It's a whale.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. Exactly...unlike the somewhat comparable in VCW, even the lightest weight F-150 Ford gasoline guzzling truck.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:06 PM
Apr 2015
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
17. Weight is good!!!!
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:20 PM
Apr 2015

A heavier car with a low center of gravity will handle better. Weight is only bad in that it uses more energy, which is why gas cars keep getting lighter. Presumably there is some efficiency curve for battery weight vs. charge capacity, but from what I hear the Tesla's weight is s feature not a bug, and that it handles like a dream. Two electric motors with instant full torque push all that weight to 60 mph faster than any production gas car short of 1000hp.

I want one.

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