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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:14 PM Jun 2015

MIT Professor: I Helped Invent the "Internet of Things"--But, This is Why I Un-Networked My House

Last edited Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:14 PM - Edit history (2)

(EDIT: I think that reading quickly, only the snips I could give, can give the impression that he was just unplugging his house because he was worried about security...but the rest of the article is his concerns about moving forward too fast implementing technology advances without a comprehensive plan and more thorough testing. INOWD'S systems like our Power Grid or Factory System/Production innovations. We might move too quickly with innovations that sound good at the moment but that could have serious, unplanned for, consequences. )

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I helped invent the Internet of Things. Here’s why I’m worried about how secure it is.

By Sanjay Sarma

I’m a mechanical engineering professor at MIT, and 17 years ago, with my colleagues David Brock, Kevin Ashton and Sunny Siu, I helped launch the research effort that laid some of the groundwork for the Internet of Things. As you might imagine, my life is pretty connected.

A few years ago, before the Nest thermostat, a friend and I wired my house to make it easily controllable. Within a few months, we had dozens of switches, motion sensors and thermostats, all on a network running through wireless routers and the power lines within the house. I had a computer controlling lights and turning them on and off when we traveled, to make the house look occupied, and complex heating schedules in the winter that anticipated the habits of the family. The next step was going to be connecting my home to the Internet.

And then I killed the project.


I realized that anyone could plug into the outlet on my deck and take control of my house.

Although I’m broadly optimistic about the wider potential of the world of networked things to help with everything from the food and medical supply chain to missing-plane searches, one concern has only grown in my mind as it develops and expands into more corners of society: security.

When people talk about security threats in this environment, they tend to use broad terms — Chinese hackers, malicious trolls. As someone closely familiar with the technology, I can be a little more specific about where I see the issue and how it’s different from the Internet security questions we tend to think about.

THE TRUTH IS, the Internet of Things isn’t some futuristic thing. We are already surrounded by hundreds of systems that are “networks of things.” If your car is relatively modern, it has more than 100 sensors, all connected over an internal network. A factory may have thousands of sensors.

The problem isn’t the IOT per se, but the pell-mell rush to build systems in any which way. Consider a valve that has been hastily turned into an IOT object. A motor that turns the valve on and off has now been networked, and the plant is connected to the Internet. In principle, there is security in some form to prevent a malicious user from turning the valve on or off. A firewall can reduce the risk of an intrusion into the system. Access control will in principle prevent an unauthorized agent from messing with the valve. Devices inside the network will need to authenticate themselves before their information is accepted into the decision-making process — to ensure that a "Trojan horse" has not been inserted into the system. Encryption will prevent others from overhearing conversations within the system.

More at......

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/06/internet-of-things-privacy-risks-security-000096

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MIT Professor: I Helped Invent the "Internet of Things"--But, This is Why I Un-Networked My House (Original Post) KoKo Jun 2015 OP
smart. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #1
Smart Man cantbeserious Jun 2015 #2
I've felt the radical opening up of systems has been insane HFRN Jun 2015 #3
Actually, no. jeff47 Jun 2015 #6
:facepalm: jeff47 Jun 2015 #4
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Jun 2015 #12
I'm a computer geek and you are 100% right on. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #14
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #16
We do need to invent something new cprise Jun 2015 #17
"Privacy" is just a succinct way to describe freedom and liberty. Give up privacy, give it all up. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #5
No, that's the illusion of freedom and liberty. jeff47 Jun 2015 #7
Selling our car and not buying another one. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #8
Somebody needs to make a horror movie out of this, or a c rime thriller. tclambert Jun 2015 #9
Is anyone actually READING the whole article before commenting? TygrBright Jun 2015 #10
The whole article was more a cautionary warning... and you explain it very well.. KoKo Jun 2015 #13
I think you are entirely correct. seabeckind Jun 2015 #15
Agree 100% nradisic Jun 2015 #11
 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
3. I've felt the radical opening up of systems has been insane
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jun 2015

20 years ago, you literally had to physically break into several layers of locks to get into a corporations systems, then have a great deal of IT knowledge of specific systems, their location, and their security protocol, for all practical purposes, impossible without inside knowledge - or to do it remote dial-up, still needing inside IT info to get the number to call, the password and username within the 3 try lockout

and security breaches that weren't an inside job were unheard of

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Actually, no.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jun 2015

If you wanted to fuck with the banking system, you needed to find the correct manhole located near a bank. Inside was a network cable. The data flowing over that cable was completely unencrypted, and completely trusted by both ends of the connection.

And that kind of thing was in use until the 1990s, when they started bothering to encrypt and authenticate the connections.

Why didn't it happen all the time? Most people just didn't know about it or have the proper tools and equipment to exploit it.

Properly-designed network security is much stronger than the system of physical locks and secret knowledge. Because it is designed to withstand an attack by that insider. Why doesn't it work all the time? It's very easy to do network security poorly. Just like it is very easy to make a physical lock that is very easy to pick.

As for returning to your model, take a look at what Stuxnet did. It went through security far more difficult than you describe, on a network that was not attached to the Internet, and still got the job done.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. :facepalm:
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jun 2015
I realized that anyone could plug into the outlet on my deck and take control of my house.

So...you didn't bother to implement any security...and that's the fault of the "Internet of Things" concept. Not you.

You know, there's a reason why almost all of our manufacturing/technology departments are separated into "science" and "engineering".

For example, a materials scientist invents a new material that can be used to hold up a building. Then a structural engineer figures out how to actually hold up the building using that material.

This guy didn't do that. He was busy acting as a scientist, inventing something new. He did not take the time to engineer something that works properly. And thus he declares that everyone will make his mistake.

Not to mention we've already been through this. Early natural gas powered water heaters would regularly explode, launching themselves out of the house. Not because of the natural gas - we already knew how to make a safe gas burner. The water heaters overheated, boiled the water inside them, and then the steam exploded through the tank, launching the water heater through the house. What did we do? Added a temperature/pressure valve that blows open first, draining the water heater and releasing the pressure long before it reaches a point of launching the water heater.

Btw, if I wanted to damage his house, I don't need to plug in to an outlet on his deck. I can do that with a $5 tool and a conveniently-located valve/switch on the outside of his house - turn off the gas or electricity that heats his house in winter. The pipes freeze, and he has a fun an exciting time when he turns the heat back on. There's zero security on the gas valve, and the "security" on the electrical switch is a thin wire holding his electric meter closed.

There are ways to do "Internet of things" poorly. That doesn't mean "poorly" is the only way, or that we need to invent something new to do better than "poorly".
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
14. I'm a computer geek and you are 100% right on.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jun 2015

There really is no thing such as a "secure" connection. It's only secure until someone figures out how to break in. Often it will require inside help, but only in the most secure systems. Most systems can be hack "fairly easily" - if you know how to do it.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
17. We do need to invent something new
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jun 2015

...or at least use more secure architectures that are "new" to the consumer market in order for security to work. Using firewalls and routers as an example, embedded devices promising "network security" (a dubious concept given the Internet's assumption of endpoint security) have become the albatrosses of IT security (and favorite targets of the NSA, for example). The vigilance for patching vulnerabilities just isn't there in most vendors, and the users will bother to do little more to these devices than dust them.

All these revolutionary new applications of computers in recent decades has been founded on the premise that you can't go wrong in taking miniaturized and tweaked versions desktop computers (perhaps with a different breed of CPU to maximize efficiency) and slap on a register till, a media kiosk, a printer, a centrifuge sensor and control array, a radar antenna, a credit card reader, or some motors and limbs in the shape of a dog, etc. DVRs and "smart" TVs are tweaked PCs. They contain variations of Unix and Windows with sprawling, complex kernels where the sandboxing/isolation code (the basis for security) occupies the same space and level of privilege as thousands of other functions; Paring them down hardly helps with security as the software still exposes enough complexity to offer a rich target.

So I think people need to step back, put on their critical thinking caps, and ask: If routers and firewalls promising security are failing at it (they can't even protect themselves), just how secure do we expect all these new networked devices to be? (My conclusion is they are snake oil: IoT is a hype storm to get people to buy more stuff, and find reasons to make refrigerators and thermostats as short-lived and replaceable as smartphones. Its the newest layer of retro-futuristic sparkle paint applied to consumerism.)

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Your allegory about water heaters and such doesn't work, BTW, because its the remote threats that stand to increase the most from IoT.

A local attacker still needs to have a nearby physical presence, which is a huge burden and risk to him; It also leaves scaled-up attacks involving a great many residences out of the question.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. No, that's the illusion of freedom and liberty.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jun 2015

Let's pretend you have some horrible secret you do not want the world to know. "Privacy" lets you keep that secret...until it leaks. Now you are under the control of a blackmailer. How free is that?

Lots and lots of secrets leaked before the Internet.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
9. Somebody needs to make a horror movie out of this, or a c rime thriller.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jun 2015

Bad guys hack a house to terrorize the residents. Not sure how they profit off it. Maybe to drive a guy crazy and take over his fortune or his business or to get revenge on him for stealing another guy's woman.

TygrBright

(20,780 posts)
10. Is anyone actually READING the whole article before commenting?
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jun 2015

Because I don't read this as a "Be afraid! Be very afraid!" review of all that is/can/will go wrong with the #IOT.

The author discusses the engineering issues underlying why the #IOT as it is, doesn't work very well, and isn't very secure.

Then, he discusses some ideas on how to change that, and implement an #IOT that will be more functional and secure.

All of it in relatively simple, clear, understandable terms. And while I sigh along with him in frustration at the current state of #IOT, I neither want to take myself off the grid altogether, nor am I completely pessimistic about where this technology might go.

I think it does heighten my already-existing wariness about using off-the-shelf #IOT devices, and configuring those I can't do without already. But beyond that, it piques my interest in how what we already know (and that's a lot) might be used to steer this technology in more user-friendly, serviceable directions.

Or am I reading a different article?

bewilderedly,
Bright

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. The whole article was more a cautionary warning... and you explain it very well..
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jun 2015

I think that reading quickly, only the snips I could give, did give the impression that the was just unplugging his house...but the rest is more involved in his concerns about moving forward without a plan and thorough testing as technology swiftly advances in making changes to systems like our Power Grid or Factory System Changes. We might move too quickly with innovations that sound good a the moment but that could have serious, unplanned for, consequences. I'm not a tech person but could understand his concerns even though I couldn't understand the tech language and have no idea what #IOT devices are.

I'll edit to caution that the whole article needs to be read to understand his point.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
15. I think you are entirely correct.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

What I got from the article is that he is saying that he is surrounded by all these things that each have an agenda driven by their own requirements and each refuses to talk with any of the others.

My premise that if everyone is in charge, no one is in charge.

We need some standards. One of the great things DARPA did was establish standards in conjunction with the IEEE. The internet would not function without those things.

And now I have a camera that decided that the best way for it to work is thru WiFi and so it has all this WiFi stuff in it that allows it to bypass the phone in my pocket. But I think the best way for it to communicate is by Bluetooth. That makes much more sense.

The author is saying we need a supreme being making rules.

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