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Neoma

(10,039 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:21 AM Feb 2012

Pregnant Monkeys Miscarry to Avoid Infanticide

When a new male gelada monkey takes control of a reproductive group, he will typically kill off the babies of his predecessor. Now, new research shows that pregnant females have an adaptive strategy to minimize their losses: They spontaneously miscarry.


http://www.livescience.com/18629-pregnant-monkeys-miscarry-avoid-infanticide.html
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Pregnant Monkeys Miscarry to Avoid Infanticide (Original Post) Neoma Feb 2012 OP
So the stress of a hostile male causes harm to females? WingDinger Feb 2012 #1
Ever read A Primate's Memoir by Robert Sapolsky? Neoma Feb 2012 #2
Not that, but much else. WingDinger Feb 2012 #3
Dogs are smarter than us. Neoma Feb 2012 #4
 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
1. So the stress of a hostile male causes harm to females?
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:02 PM
Feb 2012

I think we should refer to Rethugs as Bruce.

Somehow those apes dont question whether they have the right to kill and replace with stepford children. Same goes with rethug apes. They want to promote white privilege. So, cause women to remain fertile{ no contraceptives}, and force them to carry to term. thereby perpetuate THEIR bloodlines, and voting blocs.

I am a apeophile. I have spent many many hours watching Bonobos. They have sex freely, and so, males can never be sure a child isnt his. So, no infanticide. Even had the queen, present her newborn, three days after birth. With hands held wide, placing the child against the glass. In a show of pride, and perhaps, to say, it might be yours too.

Sexual jealousy is a harmful trait. Born of selfish domination of another. Prolly stemming from fear of mortality.

The stupid thing is, maternal orders, where women rule, the men actually have more sex, and the babies are raised better. With all males acting as fathers.

PS. The crucial factor for male harnessing of female fecundity is dismorphism. Or, males being larger than females. I guess protection from enemies, gives the right to tell women how often, when and how.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
2. Ever read A Primate's Memoir by Robert Sapolsky?
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:55 PM
Feb 2012

He studies the effects of stress in Baboons, and he was on a national geographic documentary also. It showed how stress and hierarchy are related. Great stuff.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
3. Not that, but much else.
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:39 PM
Feb 2012

Yes, most dominant males dont die of old age. They get heart disease, die in fights etc. But, the draw is too strong.

I'll look into that.

It really is amazing how alike we are to apes. We shun the idea that humans are subject to instinct, like REAL ANIMALS. and yet, criminal justice has compiled a list of regular human activities, to profile. The list is rather narrow, given that we have free will. Or is that just something we mouth, to placate and impress ourselves?

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