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elleng

(131,375 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:23 PM Jan 2018

Susan Collins just put Trumps agenda into jeopardy with a defiant announcement.

'On the heels of the wildly unpopular FCC vote in favor of repealing net neutrality rules regulating broadband companies’ power over consumers’ use of the internet, a glimmer of hope may have just surfaced.

Senate Democrats have introduced a bill that has garnered 40 co-sponsors, enough to overturn a repeal of the regulations. In doing so, they have secured a procedural vote on the floor of the Senate.

Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) has declared that she will vote with Democrats to restore net neutrality. In the event that all 49 Democrats vote in favor of the resolution, Collins’ participation would mean that Democrats would only need one more Republican defection to overturn the FCC’s decision.

Given the decision’s extreme unpopularity in the United States – a staggering 83 percent of Americans support the Obama era net neutrality rules – there will be pressure for moderate Republicans to side with the Democrats.'>>>

http://washingtonpress.com/2018/01/09/susan-collins-just-put-trumps-agenda-jeopardy-defiant-announcement/

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Susan Collins just put Trumps agenda into jeopardy with a defiant announcement. (Original Post) elleng Jan 2018 OP
Oh, like the tax bill? Chasstev365 Jan 2018 #1
10-4 erlewyne Jan 2018 #14
:) You sound like you need to take up a nice hobby, Hortensis Jan 2018 #47
Thanks, I needed that. erlewyne Jan 2018 #53
:) Don't most of us more often than not. Hortensis Jan 2018 #54
Otoh, perhaps this is some kind of positive coping Hortensis Jan 2018 #68
May I add... GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #62
Yes! And for once we're angry. Hortensis Jan 2018 #67
Right. Turtleman will promise her something and she'll get back to toeing the party line. brush Jan 2018 #28
Yes, thank you! WillParkinson Jan 2018 #57
Women Senators kicking it cilla4progress Jan 2018 #2
To be fair, at this point, she's only *said* she would kick. n/t Beartracks Jan 2018 #11
Yes. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #26
Trump will veto it. This is exactly why Trump named that new FCC guy. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #64
Not this game again..... TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #3
Those "moderate Republicans " Progressive dog Jan 2018 #4
Moderate Republicans just want to kill poor people, not eat them. tclambert Jan 2018 #37
That's just...... helmedon1974 Jan 2018 #38
I will reserve judgement until it comes down to the line still_one Jan 2018 #5
Nah, Mitch will write a really nice letter to her she can show people bronxiteforever Jan 2018 #6
Pardon me if I believe it when I see it. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2018 #7
They'll just promise her some shiny things, and she'll find a way to vote "the right way". cos dem Jan 2018 #8
Is their any good candidates whom the 50th senator might be ? Flake ? Mccain ? Mr. Sparkle Jan 2018 #9
The house will not vote on it Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #10
this... lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #52
Absolutely correct, however, this will make fantastic sound bites come election time. groundloop Jan 2018 #60
Yes, it will. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #61
I'll believe it when I see it rpannier Jan 2018 #12
ditto rurallib Jan 2018 #21
She knows that too Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #27
There it is. Collins knows how that game is played. Wwcd Jan 2018 #33
Like a cheap lawn chair. volstork Jan 2018 #25
I'll trust Susan Collins when pigs fly. Glorfindel Jan 2018 #13
SUSAN-I NEVER WILL TRUST A WORD OUT OF YOUR GOP MOUTH! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #15
SUSAN-I NEVER WILL TRUST A WORD OUT OF YOUR GOP MOUTH! LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #31
Blah blah blah hibbing Jan 2018 #16
I smell special treatment for Mainers coming.... JDC Jan 2018 #17
mconnel is tossing her a bone....... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #18
Go fuck yourself, Susan hatrack Jan 2018 #19
She's a fucking fraud RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #20
For now. How about when they actually conduct the vote? She's a HUGE disappointment. George II Jan 2018 #22
Trump has an agenda? Generic Brad Jan 2018 #23
You forgot... LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #66
Opportunist ... GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #24
Time for people to write their congressman. JohnnyRingo Jan 2018 #29
she's an asshole whose word doesn't mean shit orleans Jan 2018 #30
Give her a box of chocolates and she'll vote sideways. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2018 #39
Mind if I reserve judgment, Susan? calimary Jan 2018 #32
Deeds Eclipse Words Ccarmona Jan 2018 #34
Just go away Collins. old guy Jan 2018 #35
you already played that card, asshole Skittles Jan 2018 #36
TAX "CUT" BILL Susie Q. MFM008 Jan 2018 #40
It's called "catch and release" Steven Maurer Jan 2018 #41
Susan Collins is a con artist. AllyCat Jan 2018 #42
Is there a good Dem to challenge her? What a naive woman. Sorry Susan but I have no faith in you. YOHABLO Jan 2018 #43
Even if.. Maaattcast Jan 2018 #44
you're right and welcome to DU NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #49
k and R riversedge Jan 2018 #45
Yeah, she's such a maverick. Let's see if she actually does it IronLionZion Jan 2018 #46
OK - even if the Senate passes a resolution NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #48
My thoughts exactly. Amimnoch Jan 2018 #50
Kindly grandma is always talking a line of shit but in the end when it really counts The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #51
Wishy washy Susan left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #55
Sen. Sue is holding out for a fake bribe. nt NCjack Jan 2018 #56
After her vote to put Gorsuch in office and the tax bill? She can still go fuck herself. cstanleytech Jan 2018 #58
...and would it need the approval of the buffoon-in-thief? Hulk Jan 2018 #59
Susan Collins can kiss my a--! Orangeutan Jan 2018 #63
Yeah, right. That stupid fuck bucket ALWAYS has her constituents' best interests at heart. . . . BigDemVoter Jan 2018 #65

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
14. 10-4
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jan 2018

Our democracy is gone.

Everybody is playing sports.

Alabama or Geogia? Who gives a shit in
the real world. It's GOP vs. Dems,
and who gives a rat's ass for cold
hungry families?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. :) You sound like you need to take up a nice hobby,
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jan 2018

Erlewyne. I suspect too much immersion in politics is sort of like being a police officer immersed in malfeasance. If you become unable to see anything but bad, it's past time to get out.

Especially the way the press report it. Don't forget, their biggest bias is always for conflict and sensationalism, and problems. People don't and never did tune in to hear what's going well. any more than cars slow down on the freeway to admire the well maintained landscaping.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
68. Otoh, perhaps this is some kind of positive coping
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:34 AM
Jan 2018

strategy, even if expression needs a little work.

Why Negative Thinking Has Cognitive and Emotional Benefits
http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/why-negative-thinking-works

Have a NICE day anyway, though.

brush

(53,977 posts)
28. Right. Turtleman will promise her something and she'll get back to toeing the party line.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jan 2018

She's a repug. Can't be trusted.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
64. Trump will veto it. This is exactly why Trump named that new FCC guy.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jan 2018

Because he wants to make it so that the big companies run the internet.

That's what the tax cut bill was all about. So the big guys could get big tax cuts.

cos dem

(903 posts)
8. They'll just promise her some shiny things, and she'll find a way to vote "the right way".
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jan 2018

Won't actually give her the shiny things of course, just the promise.

JDC

(10,146 posts)
17. I smell special treatment for Mainers coming....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jan 2018

She'll waiver if the rules are bent for the good folks of Maine. I guess to be fair, and I don't want to be, that is kind of her job.

getagrip_already

(14,967 posts)
18. mconnel is tossing her a bone.......
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jan 2018

She gets to cast a yes vote, mitch gets all the other republicans to vote no, and pence saves the day.

Everyone on the red side is happy and collins gets to say I voted with you.

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
23. Trump has an agenda?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jan 2018

I thought he just wanted to sign things so he would appear presidential. Because he thinks that's what presidents do. Sign things.

JohnnyRingo

(18,693 posts)
29. Time for people to write their congressman.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jan 2018

...or congresswoman of course, to make sure they know how strongly we feel about this.

orleans

(34,097 posts)
30. she's an asshole whose word doesn't mean shit
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jan 2018

says she's gonna do this? okay, susan, prove it
she won't

republicans will promise to buy a new dishwasher for everyone in maine so she'll get all warm & fluffy deep inside and vote with the republicans who will, once again, screw her over and keep us disgusted with her and her stupidity

calimary

(81,597 posts)
32. Mind if I reserve judgment, Susan?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:19 PM
Jan 2018

I’ll wait ‘n’ see if she’s all talk (again), or she’s true to her word and stands for the good of the needy and the general public, rather than continuing to comfort the already comfortable.

I trust her about as far as I can throw my house.

Steven Maurer

(476 posts)
41. It's called "catch and release"
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:16 AM
Jan 2018

The vulnerable Republican who always votes the right way on all the important stuff is allowed to noisily pretend that they're a "maverick" and independent of the party, voting against the party on votes the part is going to win anyway.

If this bill ever came close to passage, the GOP would just filibuster it.

Collins is playing a bullshit game.

AllyCat

(16,263 posts)
42. Susan Collins is a con artist.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:34 AM
Jan 2018

She plays a different line than Cheeto Jesus. She pretends to be all "stand up for the worker". Once she knows the GOPKKK have the votes to pass whatever $hit legislation they are working on, she votes with the Dems to appease her purple constituency. Put no faith in ANYTHING this woman does. She is NOT in your court.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
43. Is there a good Dem to challenge her? What a naive woman. Sorry Susan but I have no faith in you.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:54 AM
Jan 2018

Maaattcast

(18 posts)
44. Even if..
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:16 AM
Jan 2018

Even if we could get one more republican to join Democrats, we’d still need the resolution of disapproval to pass the House, which is ahem, unlikely to say the least. Ryan likely wouldn’t even bring it to the floor for a vote.. and even then, if by some miracle it passed both houses of Congress, the President could still veto it and thus force a need for enough votes to override the veto, which is never gonna happen even under the most optimistic of scenarios.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
49. you're right and welcome to DU
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:34 PM
Jan 2018

you're correct - I said as much below because I had missed your post. Under Bush, when Dems held the senate and Republicans the House, the Democrats passed a bunch of good bills that DeLay and Boehner didn't even allow to get to the floor in the House

IronLionZion

(45,637 posts)
46. Yeah, she's such a maverick. Let's see if she actually does it
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 11:15 AM
Jan 2018

and if it actually accomplishes anything before we celebrate her bravery.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
48. OK - even if the Senate passes a resolution
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

it won't mean shit if Ryan doesn't let it come to a vote in the House. And, would Trump be able to veto the resolution if it passed both houses?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
50. My thoughts exactly.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

Even if we do manage to score this in the Senate, it's not going to pass the house.. at least not until January 2019

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
51. Kindly grandma is always talking a line of shit but in the end when it really counts
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jan 2018

folds like a paper sack.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
59. ...and would it need the approval of the buffoon-in-thief?
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jan 2018

I'm guessing if it would, he'd simply veto the bill.

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