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Uncle Joe

(58,584 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:02 PM Jun 2018

"THE RUSSIANS PLAY HARD": INSIDE RUSSIA'S ATTEMPT TO HACK 2018--AND 2020



Alight breeze was rustling along Connecticut Avenue when I arrived at an unmemorable bar in Washington, D.C., and plopped down across from a former federal intelligence official. It had been an exhausting day. For decades, I’ve covered the goings-on and machinations within Silicon Valley, but these days the biggest technology story is occurring at the heart of the nation’s capital. I’d already met with current and former intelligence and security officials in federal buildings along the lush Capitol grounds, researchers from think tanks in bespoke coffee shops near Dupont Circle, and, now, in a dark bar not too far from the National Mall. Each spoke articulately and cogently about the threats posed to the 2018 midterms by Russia. I’ve been reporting cyber-security and hacking for well over a decade, and even unearthed some truly scary stuff—like the chilling manifest destiny of fake news—in the process. But what I learned that day, and particularly in that bar, scared the shit out of me.

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So what exactly is Russia planning for the upcoming election? The correct question, a half dozen security experts and former and current government officials have told me, is what are they not planning? These people all said that 2018 will likely be a testing ground for 2020. Many of the tactics that Russia experiments with could (and likely will) be enacted on a much larger scale two years from now. Some of these strategies and maneuvers appear grounded in reality, while others seem speculative, but all have the same sinister goal of breaking the system—by cleaving our polity, distracting us with feuds large and small—by sowing discord through technology platforms and services. “Having the U.S. at war with itself is giving Russia credit internationally,” explained Andrew Weiss, the vice president for research on Russia for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, noting that we as a country are more divided on almost every issue than at any other time in history. “[Russia is] not the creator of this problem, but they have exploited it. Just creating mistrust, and throwing a question mark over the legitimacy of our government, is a pretty big prize for Russia.”

In the coming months, these experts told me, Russian operatives will likely start creating fake Facebook groups (if they haven’t already)—some that slam to the left, others that lean as far right as humanly possible—that will argue with one another, and help us do the same; there will be accounts on social media that use Cambridge Analytica-style targeting to serve up ads, and a barrage of cleverly designed and perfectly disguised bots on Twitter. All stuff we’ve seen already, but with much more advanced algorithms and snakier and more aggressive tactics. (This time, for example, fake video and audio will start circulating through the social stratosphere, all with the intended purpose of trying to make real news seem fake, and fake news seem real.) As we’ve seen with the various e-mails posted on WikiLeaks—ranging from the Hillary Clinton campaign and the D.C.C.C. to the countless hacking attempts around the world that preceded the French national election—any modern candidate should expect that their e-mails, text messages, and personal social-media data are hacked and published. At least any candidate that Russia wants to harm.

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The day after my terrifying discussions in that dark bar, I had time to kill before heading to a meeting at the United States Senate building, so I decided to walk to try to clear my head. No matter how many times you do it, it’s an incredibly sobering experience to go past those massive buildings that house our government. The Library of Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Department of Justice all stand momentous and stoic. They present themselves as edifices capable of withstanding anything—anything at all. Yet I found myself sitting across from the most impressive building of them all, the United States Capitol, and wondering if these institutions can withstand Trump, and, in turn, Russia. The answer, it seems, is right there in front of us. Russia and Trump want us to hate each other. They want us fighting on Twitter. Spewing vitriol. Telling our neighbors to go fuck themselves. Fighting on Facebook. If that continues to happen, they win, and we all—all!—lose. The only way to beat Russia is the only way that America can survive itself.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/inside-russias-attempt-to-hack-2018-and-2020




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SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. Trump is meeting with Putin in the next few weeks...
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jun 2018

He is meeting with him to make sure Putin interferes with midterms and his own election.

Uncle Joe

(58,584 posts)
5. 1. Totally trash the American and to some extent western world economies
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jun 2018

2. Sell Alaska back to the Russians to pay for exorbitant U.S. debt incurred by the ensuing depression and economic turmoil.

Of course Putin is down playing his desire for Alaska to be returned because he knows it would stir up a hornet's nest here and backfire against this attempts to interfere with American elections but knowing his strong views on Russian Empire I would wager he has moist dreams about it.



Make Alaska Russian Again: Far-Right nationalists call for the state to return to Moscow's control 150 years after the US bought it

Russian nationalists are calling for Alaska to be returned to the Kremlin's control 150 years after the land was sold to America.

Sergey Aksyonov, the prime minister of Crimea, bemoaned the sale on TV earlier this month while foreign minister Sergey Lavrov admitted in a recent interview that the anniversary will cause 'diverse emotions' among Russians.

The land deal, which saw Alaska pass to American control in 1867 for the price of $7.2million, is also a popular topic among Russian bloggers who have called for a referendum to be held on whether the state should be handed back.

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Meanwhile Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a fringe political figure and a colonel in the Russian military, has called for Alaska to be taken back by force.

He believes it would not only put the rest of America 'at gunpoint', but also be a useful place 'to keep the Ukrainians.'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4375868/Russian-nationalists-want-Alaska-Moscow-s-hands.html



Far fetched perhaps, but I can't totally eliminate the possibility.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
7. Not far fetched at all. How would Trump know this unless he discussed this with Putin.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:13 PM
Jun 2018

Now that he has an EPA chief who will do his bidding, the offer might be put back on the table. The deck is being stacked.





Uncle Joe

(58,584 posts)
8. Trump's tweet happened during the same time period that Russia invaded Crimea and
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

the cosmic irony being that it was the 19th century Crimean War putting Russia in great debt and risk which prompted the Czar to sell Alaska to the U.S.



The Crimean peninsula was annexed from Ukraine by the Russian Federation in February–March 2014. Since then, it has been administered as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol.[33] The annexation was accompanied by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea that took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.[34][35]

On 22–23 February 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss the extrication of deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych. At the end of the meeting Putin remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia".[36] On 23 February, pro-Russian demonstrations were held in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. On 27 February masked Russian troops without insignia[2] took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea,[37][38] and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Aksyonov government in Crimea, the conducting of the Crimean status referendum and the declaration of Crimea's independence on 16 March 2014.[39][40] Russia formally incorporated Crimea as two federal subjects of the Russian Federation with effect from 18 March 2014.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

Maraya1969

(22,527 posts)
4. I used to be very polite on FB. Now, fuck that. When I hear RW idiots say stupid shit I point out
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jun 2018

how stupid their shit is. I embarrass them. And they have been backing down.

I think it is working.

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