or is it the Catholic Church? I get confused.

15th at the latest

Just what the world needs. A bunch of pedophile priests, who refuse to ordain women, telling us that we can't decide with our Dr's consultation. Ain't that grand-- NOT.

What a bunch of hateful men.

I left the Church in spirit around the age of 5.

Hysterectomies are not performed for sterilization purposes - a tubal ligation will accomplish that purpose. A hysterectomy is performed for medical purposes with sterilization as a secondary result.

I am not Catholic and don't purport to understand the Church's position but geez......

as well as a population issue. In Latin American countries they went heavy on this because the more people the more money.

Let's apply Hanlon's Razor and take the Church's teachings at face value.

The Catholic Church takes the position that the only legitimate reason for sex is procreation. If you assume that position, the teaching against birth control is a obvious result. However, the Church does not forbid sex for infertile couples. If a person is rendered infertile - by result of injury or medically necessary procedure - s/he is not forbidden to engage in marital sex.

I suspect that the Church does not understand that hysterectomies are not performed for sterilization purposes.

As one born and raised I can tell you the church is/has been as calculating as Machiavelli. They know full well the purpose of hysterectomies but their dogma is used as a control mechanism. And frankly, what's in the best interests of people has never been their priority. Hence priests were allowed to abuse children and protected, nuns allowed to abuse unwed, pregnant mothers, take their babies and even at times kill them. They grew rich encouraging parents in Latin countries to have children they couldn't afford to feed and then expected the parents to tithe to the church.

As someone up thread mentioned...a bunch of men in long robes and finery, living lavish lifestyles telling women what is and should be with their bodies.

I have an affinity for Hanlon's Razor but history cannot be denied.

to assign stupidity to the Vatican and it is a question often posed about INdividual 1, but with the church, I feel quite confident assigning self-interest to their motives. Most of the church hierarchy operates with disdain where women are concerned and do not regard them as equals. It's a boys club, one which enjoys wealth.

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Men controlling women, sitting in judgment on them, controlling reproduction.
Makes me sick.

I’m from a large Catholic family, oldest of eight. I have more than 65 first cousins. I saw first hand the burden women have in this environment. I decided at a young age not to marry, then the birth control pill came along. Yay!

One aunt had such severe post-Parton depression that she often had to be institutionalized yet she had eight more children. Others just barely managed with nearly constant depression.

That is all.

Wait, what?