to keep a survivable biosphere and not be one single wall of human flesh. One is, stop making more humans! There are co-equally important actions like redistribute wealth and localize power generation with point source electric/wind combinations with attention to serious reduction of pollution. We need to end the throw-away society. We need to stop raising livestock in large quantities.

The best thing we can do is reduce our population size along with ending trashy, industrial era practices of shitting in our own bed and every other species' beds as well.

I'm a whole foods vegetarian (and a vegan wanna-be) --- and I totally agree with this.

I volunteer at our local food pantry once a week. We give out lots of veggies and gourmet items (really, it's surprising). Many of our clients are obese. To be sure, they are no different than folks not using the pantry - but I watch it all, close up - week to week (something I don't do in the market, of course). And form relationships with them.

Not only can you take boxes and boxes from our pantry - you can head to another one, a few miles away (the next town over), if you want. In the words of the pantry organizer: "We encourage it."

I have such mixed feelings. On the one hand, everyone should make their own choices. On the other - many of these people are killing themselves. The local supermarket's bakery gives us boxes and boxes of cakes and treats and so much of their baked bread we have to throw some of it out. We also offer lots of boxed items, including chips. We do get boxes of veggies and fruit, too - of course. It's all SOOOO much.

I'm sure if I parked myself in a walmart once a week - or our local supermarket, I'd see all the same thing.

It's sad .

and Box Top Foods does for people. They provide fresh produce to low income people.

I do eat meat, but not every day. I am far more likely to have ground turkey, fish or chicken. I might eat red meat once a month.

live to eat. Sugar and animal fat is delicious, not healthy for anyone except profits.

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For me, it wasn't hard to do. I feel better. I don't think I will go back to eating meat and dairy again.

Would be the hardest for me. Meat no!

Unfortunately I like cheese.

Humans don't deserve it. If we can't take care of it, then maybe we should disappear.

Humans don't "need" meat or milk. I go to the Dr. yearly for checkups, blood work, etc.

Humans need to get OFF of the animal products habit (yea, McDonalds and ChickFilA and other fast food places would have to adjust their damn menus to feature much LESS meat and food producers would have to find other products).

Cows milk is for COWS.

We torture BILLIONS of animals every year to feed us and we're feeding grain that WE ought to be eating (whole, thankyouverymuch) to the animals we're pigging out on (pun intended).

How stupid is that? Not to mention grossly IMMORAL. Not to mention it's destroying human health and the planet.

Yea, Tyson's chicken will whine. So will a lot of other corporations whose business model is built on torturing and killing billions of animals a year as a business model. It's time they changed their business model.

And while they're at it it, they can scrap the goddamned single use plastic too -- either altogether or start collecting back, recycling and reusing what they put out there. CLOSE THE LOOP.

We're eating the grain but only AFTER it has been eaten by and become part of another animal. Why not just EAT the grain first-hand?

"Oh I like MEAT because it's GOOD!" - "How ya gonna have bar-be-q with no ribs?!"

We're destroying the entire planet for all of humanity - now and in the future - because people whining can't have barbeque meat anymore and/or have developed a taste for tortured, seared, dead animal meat?

Mmmmkay.

Those excuses increasingly don't suffice anymore.

Humans have some serious choices to make.

THIS is where we REALLY find out if they're "the most intelligent species on the planet" as they claim to be.

I have my doubts.

And, then there is the planet. Survival would be good.