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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,498 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:33 PM Jan 2019

538: Why Is Howard Schultz Getting So Much 2020 Attention?

sarahf (Sarah Frostenson, politics editor): On Sunday, Howard Schultz, former longtime CEO of Starbucks, told “60 Minutes” that he was considering a run for president — but he said he wouldn’t run as a Democrat, instead he’d run as a “centrist independent.”

Schultz’s announcement was met with swift backlash from many in the Democratic Party, including those who fear that a third-party candidate will pave the path for Trump’s re-election. Others, such as David Frum at The Atlantic, have argued that Schultz might be the kind of candidate needed to defeat Trump, as the anti-Trump majority is strong, but it isn’t all that progressive.

So, what do you think — can an independent win?

julia_azari (Julia Azari, political science professor at Marquette University and FiveThirtyEight contributor): Probably not, but I have learned my lessons from 2016 about naysaying.

nrakich (Nathaniel Rakich, elections analyst): People are being too absolutist in thinking that Schultz has a 0 percent chance of winning. He may very well have a 1 percent chance!

natesilver (Nate Silver, editor in chief): An independent could win the presidency, but I don’t think it’s very likely, and Howard Schultz seems like one of the least likely independents to win the presidency.

julia_azari: Whether an independent candidate could have a chance of winning is less about ideological positioning and more about having a solid Electoral College strategy. But I don’t see Schultz demonstrating that he would have one.

Instead, I think he’s trying to make a point about the Democrats moving too far left.

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-is-howard-schultz-getting-so-much-2020-attention/


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enough

(13,270 posts)
1. Because the media creates and runs our election seasons, as they did with Trump.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jan 2019

All they want is something that people will watch.

FBaggins

(26,795 posts)
2. A centrist billionaire former head of a popular company?
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

Doubt he could win unless Democrats chew themselves up in the primaries and Republicans see him as an alternative to Trump that doesn’t mean “electing Hillary” - but there’s little reason to pretend he isn’t newsworthy.

Faux pas

(14,716 posts)
4. He's just a less
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

obnoxious A-hole than hump, he won't be getting my vote. I do believe we need more than just two parties tho.

marble falls

(57,591 posts)
8. A bit. I don't think he buys his suits off the rack and his hair is ... er ... normalish ...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

but I just see a psychopath in every video of him I've seen including the event he was called short at when someone in the audience pretty much said what I wish I could say to him.

He's figures if Trump can do it, so can he. Even HE thinks he's a lot like Trump.

Gumboot

(531 posts)
6. The rich get to play the game...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jan 2019

... the working class do not.

Witness how Richard Ojeda got ZERO media time for his (sadly brief) campaign.

Like George Carlin said, it's a big exclusive club - and we're not in it.

The doors are always open for Schultz, Bloomberg, and their $billions, though.


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