Mueller Deputy Wants Roger Stone Hauled Before Grand Jury in New York.
'Former special counsel Robert Muellers onetime lead lieutenant Andrew Weissmann wants to see former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone hauled before a grand jury in New York State.
Time to put Roger Stone in the grand jury to find out what he knows about Trump but would not tell, the onetime prosecutor and current New York University law professor wrote on Friday evening. Commutation cant stop that. . .
Scholars, academics and pundits have often debated the reach and expanse of the clearly defined pardon power. Indeed, a cottage industry of op-eds devoted to incorrect musing about the limits of presidential pardons developed during the Trump administration as speculation ran rampant that the 45th president might attempt to pardon himself over various crimes.
What is clear about the pardon powers end point, however, is the delineation between federal and state investigations, charges and prosecutions. A president has absolutely unlimited power to dispense with the former while the pardon clearly does not extend to the latter.
But in a somewhat curious turn, Weissmann called on the acting U.S. Attorney for Southern District of New York (SDNY) to make headlines for herself by bringing Stone in for questioning before an as-yet not constitutedor at least as-yet not publicgrand jury.
Audrey Strauss: this is your moment to stand for the rule of law, Weissmann tweeted.
But its unclear exactly why and for what reasons Stone would be of interest to the SDNY at the moment.'>>>
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-top-mueller-deputy-wants-roger-stone-hauled-before-grand-jury-in-new-york/?
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)I thought that was the brilliance of commutation
unblock
(52,163 posts)So if answering a question might implicate him in a state crime or a federal crime other than one he's been found not guilty of or which has been pardoned, he can take the fifth.
Technically, one does not "plead" the fifth. It is "taken" or "invoked".
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)unblock
(52,163 posts)Although he usually goes for a pint....
OMGWTF
(3,949 posts)AmyStrange
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sorry, I couldn't resist.
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AmyStrange
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then he couldn't use that right.
If that would get me trump, I'd do that in a minute.
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empedocles
(15,751 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,111 posts)and neither do some real pundits. Such as Glenn Kirschner.
Karadeniz
(22,486 posts)iluvtennis
(19,843 posts)TryLogic
(1,722 posts)be a state crime if states would simply declare that to be the case. Whatever happens at the federal level affects the states, at least in many situations such as national security, voting rights, etc. A threat to national security is a threat to the states, not (only) the federal bureaucracy. There should be a way to override corrupt presidential pardons, which Republicans are especially fond of doing.
elleng
(130,822 posts)states would have to incorporate Federal statutes AND there should be a nexus between the action and the place/state.
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