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sad sally

(2,627 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:31 PM Jun 2012

Do We Need a Poor People's Coming-Out Movement?

by Laura Flanders
Governor Andrew Cuomo says raising the minimum wage in New York is harder than passing marriage equality. Is that true? Is it spin? If we were to say it’s true—is it all about money, or could it be that there’s something we need, namely a coming-out movement about poverty in America?

Democrats in the New York State Assembly have passed a bill to raise the minimum wage from the federal $7.25 to $8.50 an hour. Last week, during a Capitol press conference, the governor said this is probably where the bill is stuck at least for this session. There’s likely to be no passing a minimum wage hike through the Republican-controlled Senate, the issue’s just too divisive, said the governor. Isn’t this the same savvy politician who last year convinced four Senate Republicans to pass a bill legalizing same-sex marriage? Cuomo insisted that this time it’s different.

“This is broader and a deeper divide,” Cuomo said. “Marriage, in some ways, was more of a personal judgment for people on their personal values.

There’s certainly a case to be made that the governor could apply himself more forcefully to the task of raising the wage. (Although the speaker wouldn’t like it, he could for example, hike the wage by order of the state Labor Department.) It’s also true that where politics is concerned, deeply held beliefs are usually less relevant than deep pockets. Most LGBT activists aren’t well-to-do—but some are, and they knew how to use it. The wage-raisers, by contrast, may have the popular will on their side, but they’re up against an entire Chamber of Commerce–funded army of opinion shapers, propagandists and paid-off politicians who argue that living wages lead to dead business. They’re up against the well financed spin, and they’re up against the already freaked-out business owners who believe it.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/06/03-4

In the United States today, some 103 million Americans live in or near poverty; 6 million Americans are living on an income of only food stamps. Poor in American means being invisible.

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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. Occupy in Los Angeles was sort of a coming out part for the very poor.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jun 2012

The other day, I was sitting in the audience of a city council meeting in Los Angeles. A man who looked and acted, shall we say, more than a little out of touch with reality stood during the comment period and made a very real, very simple, very honest plea that the council do something for the poor. He stood before them and said that he believed that every person should have a roof over their head, their own place to sleep.

Many in the audience were obviously embarrassed and tried to hide a laugh. A few twittered and raised their eyebrows. I admired the man's courage. Crazy as he was, he was bringing up a valid issue that we just don't talk about anywhere near enough in our society. Before anyone gets any more tax cuts, let's make it possible for every homeless person in our country to have a roof over their head.

That's just the minimum, it seems to me.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
2. I think so. As long as the poor are invisible they are easier to ignore.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jun 2012

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Even though tens of millions of Americans fit the definition of "poor" it seems to me that shelf space in the media for this issue is almost non-existent. Poverty only passes editorial guidelines when the story somehow involves "boostraps", "lottery", "thanks to the generosity of . . ." or "god and jesus" winds up being the punchline.

Unfortunately it seems the poor buy into the cultural shorthand of poverty or don't want to be tarnished by it and seek to hide their condition. Poor people are lazy, immoral, in the grips of some vice or maybe even suffering the punishment of god. That's the shorthand.

The poor and especially the working poor could wake some people up just by showing themselves. They don't have to do or say anything.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
4. Some of us choose to be visible
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:15 AM
Jun 2012

and to talk at length about our experiences.

I have been un- or under-employed for four years. I am currently living on food stamps and the generosity of a friend (I have a small room in her 30 YO double wide trailer). My situation continues to degrade as I struggle to keep a low profile so I won't irritate my new roomie.

You would not believe the looks provoked by using one's EBT card. Apparently, you are the worst leech on the backside of humanity if you have to use food stamps. How's that for irony?

Oh, and, Texas Workforce Commission has decided that they have overpaid my unemployment bennies, because I resigned my part time job to avoid homelessness (I still owe my former landlord and friend a LOT of money in missed rent). According to the TWC, I must repay them $1380. That's not the original amount: they are adding interest and penalties, and will continue to do so because I don't have a snowball's chance of reimbursing them.

Bear in mind that my situation is *not* as bad as what many others are facing. Our homeless brethren are routinely harassed by the police, and their support systems are losing funding hand over fist.

I have to wonder how someone like Oprah can justify amassing obscene amounts of wealth in a system that ignores the poor and the homeless--particularly when so many children are living in abject poverty. SHAME on you, Oprah, and shame on all the other rich maggots feeding on the lifeblood of the poor.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
5. According to the US Conference of Mayors in 2011, a person working 40 hours a week, making the
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jun 2012

minimum wage of $7.25, doesn't have enough money to afford a one-bedroom apartment ANYWHERE in the US.

A job with a living income isn't too much to ask for, and neither you nor the 46 million other people with similar circumstances should be looked down on. The down looks must be on the system and people that created the massive homelessness and poverty in the United States - a country with 8.2 million millionaires! Greed abounds...

The disregard and refusal to see the "invisible poor" is well illustrated in this picture.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
3. I rather like the Occupy movent in that it doesn't set up fault lines
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:33 AM
Jun 2012

such as poor, middle class. It just works to help the entire 99%. Realize that raising the minimum wage will indirectly raise everyone's wages since skilled folks will then demand more money than near-minimum wage.

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