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Uncle Joe

(58,624 posts)
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 05:49 PM Oct 2023

Ukraine's Counteroffensive Is More Successful Than You Think



The focus on the stalled land war obscures major successes in Crimea and the Black Sea.

A satellite image shows smoke billowing from the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet after a Ukrainian missile strike in Sevastopol, Crimea, on Sept. 22. PLANET LABS VIA REUTERS

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While some of this criticism may be justified, the almost singular Western focus on territorial breakthroughs has distracted from the fact that Ukraine is fighting a medium- to long-term war on multiple fronts against a significantly larger and heavily entrenched foe. What’s more, the lack of a major Ukrainian land advance obscures the very real battlefield successes Ukraine has had in other theaters of the conflict—most notably in Russian-occupied Crimea and the Black Sea.

A crucial part of Kyiv’s long-term plan for the war is to push Russia out of the Crimean Peninsula and the rest of the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine’s coastline. Since the start of the full-scale invasion, Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, headquartered at the Crimean port of Sevastopol, has been a critical component of Moscow’s war effort. Russian warships operating out of Sevastopol have enforced a blockade of Ukraine’s coastline and launched cruise missiles to rain hell onto Ukrainian cities and infrastructure.

But over the last several months, Ukraine has achieved a series of startling victories in and around Crimea, including missile strikes against the Kerch Strait bridge and multiple daring attacks on the Black Sea Fleet itself—with major impacts on the Russians’ ability to operate on the peninsula and in the western Black Sea.

In September, the Ukrainians carried out a series of missile strikes against Russian naval assets in Sevastopol, including a landing ship, a submarine, and the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet itself—reportedly while several high-ranking commanders were inside. Some of these strikes were carried out using Storm Shadow cruise missiles recently supplied by Britain and France. The Ukrainians have also ratcheted up their strikes against Russian logistics, repair, and infrastructure hubs on the peninsula with the intent of degrading Russia’s ability to support its fleet. Earlier this month, Kyiv claimed responsibility for two further attacks on the Russian fleet, using a new type of sea drone to strike the Russian cruise missile carrier Buyan and carrying out a sabotage attack on the Pavel Derzhavin, a Russian patrol ship. These strikes came after the Ukrainians had methodically attrited Russian anti-missile defense structures in Crimea over the previous weeks.

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/20/ukraine-crimea-black-sea-counteroffensive-russia-fleet-navy-drones-war/

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Ukraine's Counteroffensive Is More Successful Than You Think (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2023 OP
Slava Ukraine! PortTack Oct 2023 #1
Ukraine is destroying amazing quantities of Russian equipment. Re the pace Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #2
also apparently 250,000 Russian soldiers dead as of this week LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #3

Bernardo de La Paz

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2. Ukraine is destroying amazing quantities of Russian equipment. Re the pace
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 07:16 PM
Oct 2023

Russia's collapse in Ukraine and Crimea will likely come slowly and then suddenly.

People will say "How did that happen so suddenly?"

If it happens, it will be because of the loss of many Ukrainian lives, the tremendous bravery of a few, and the solid quiet bravery of many, over months of war and suffering. Months of strenuous effort to rid themselves (again) of oppressors with no moral boundaries. Soviets, then Nazis, then Russians.

Ukraine has been hollowing out Russian military steadily. Russia, which has generations of not only making but designing whole series of aircraft, has been unable to establish air superiority over Ukraine. Russian Generals and top brass dying near the fronts. In the last couple of weeks Russia has been making a bit of a counter-counter-offensive at Adviikia (sp?) and another place, with no success and large losses. But I've only read a few reports.

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