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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:39 PM Mar 23

Putin must now realise he's been fighting the wrong war

Russian President Vladimir Putin may have convinced himself that Russia’s main enemy lies in the West. But the deadly attack on a Moscow concert hall carried out by an offshoot of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) demonstrates that Islamist terrorists pose a far more deadly threat to his country’s well-being.

The Kremlin has a long and bloody history of fighting Islamist extremism, from Russia’s brutal military campaign in Chechnya – Putin’s first war after becoming president – to Moscow’s more recent military intervention in Syria, where Russian forces were involved in eliminating Isil’s self-declared caliphate in Raqqa.

It is worth remembering that Putin’s primary justification for deploying Russian forces to Syria in 2015 was to target the Islamist militants who had seized control of large swathes of the country, even if his main motivation was to keep the Assad regime, long-standing allies of Moscow, in power.

Explaining his decision to intervene in Syria in a speech to the UN General Assembly in September 2015, Putin made a rousing call for an international coalition to fight global terrorism, comparing the campaign to defeat Isil to allied efforts to defeat the Nazis during the Second World War.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-must-now-realise-he-s-been-fighting-the-wrong-war/ar-BB1kpJyU

I fear he's going to pull a G DUHbya and go at Ukraine even harder.

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Putin must now realise he's been fighting the wrong war (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 23 OP
Like Netanyahu, he was warned. Sneederbunk Mar 23 #1
like W was warned nt msongs Mar 23 #2
Hardly. Igel Mar 24 #4
Yeah, bad choice Attilatheblond Mar 23 #3
It's George W. Bush in reverse. Aristus Mar 25 #5

Igel

(35,309 posts)
4. Hardly.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 24

You need time and place for a warning to be actionable.

Bin Ladin was "determined to strike in the US" on 8/6/21 isn't that useful. Would it be a bomb in a backpack? A car bomb? A plane?

Against a federal building? Congress? Utilities? Dams? Reservoirs? Oil refineries? Chemical plants? An oil tanker? Maybe a natural gas pipeline.

Or maybe they'd poison the food supply to a town or from a wholesaler.

We ban easy access to those facilities--by which I mean "anything within a block of the perimeter." With heavy protection around them all--you can't park within a block of one of those facilities. Concerts banned, all flights grounded unless accompanied by a jet fighter. Schools with National Guard for protection. Universities.

That would be a problem. We'd have pitched a fit at the sudden clampdown on all sorts of liberties and the militarization of society if the briefing had said "in the next week." He'd have clearly been doing what many said he'd be doing--martial law and rounding up people for camps.

That's for maybe a week or two. But the threat was open-ended. So all the security, invasion of privacy, lockdowns would be indefinite.

I don't think you'd have liked that.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
5. It's George W. Bush in reverse.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:53 AM
Mar 25

First, Putin attacks a nation that is no threat to him or Russia, and then they get attacked by Islamic terrorists.

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